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woolfe9998

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Haha, indeed! It's amazing, the excerpts from Michelle Obama's speech that I've read make me feel good about being an American. Contrast that to the ranting and raving from the RNC. It's sickening.

What typifies the GOP's electoral approach more than anything is Trump ranting about "190,000 illegal immigrant felons are now wandering the streets." When it was pointed out that Trump's statistics are cherry picked and that violent crime has been on the decline for 30 years, Newt Gingrich says the facts don't matter. What matters is that people "feel afraid."

What they are doing is not merely capitalizing on fear. They are also manufacturing it with lies and half truths.

This election presents a very clear choice, clearer perhaps than any other I've seen in my lifetime.
 

wetech

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Michelle Obama is very well spoken. Melania sounds like she just moved to America yesterday. Michelle is also educated and Melania is not. Well...atleast she has plenty of nude photos out there. It got her pretty far, obviously...she has a chance to be a First Lady. Probably the first one in history to have skanky photos of herself online.


But lets put class back into the white house lol I think Trump may be the first Pres hopeful that has 5 kids by 3 baby mamas.

Funny that you mention class in a post like this. Misogyny, check; xenophobia, check.
 

Blackjack200

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What typifies the GOP's electoral approach more than anything is Trump ranting about "190,000 illegal immigrant felons are now wandering the streets." When it was pointed out that Trump's statistics are cherry picked and that violent crime has been on the decline for 30 years, Newt Gingrich says the facts don't matter. What matters is that people "feel afraid."

What they are doing is not merely capitalizing on fear. They are also manufacturing it with lies and half truths.

This election presents a very clear choice, clearer perhaps than any other I've seen in my lifetime.

It is a choice between hate, anger, fear, and division vs. love, compassion, bravery and unity. It sounds like comic book stuff, but it is.
 

Jhhnn

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99% of the people in attendance are only there because of Bernie. He served his puppet role to populate what would otherwise be another empty HRC event. Good to see HRC getting her money's worth.

I hope you're only delusional about politics. Otherwise you're putting down the cardboard sign occasionally to post from public computers at the library.
 

Pens1566

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I don't know, I think it's kind of telling when the difference in speakers is Chachi/Antonio Sabato vs FLOTUS/Senator/Senator.

Unless you're talking "which speaker is more likely to appear in Pira-chupa-conda 2 on syfy", that is.
 

Perknose

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A "rushed" transcript of Michelle Obama's transcendentally heartfelt speech.

Or listen for yourself.

Thank you all, thank you so much. It is hard to believe that it has been eight years since I first came to this convention to talk with you about why I thought my husband should be president. Remember how I told you about his character and his conviction? His decency and grace? The traits we have seen every day as he has served our country in the White House.

I also told you about our daughters, how they are the heart of our hearts, the center of our world, and during our time in the White House we have had the joy of watching them grow from bubbly little girls into poised young women.

A journey that started soon after we arrived in Washington when they set off for their first day at their new school. I will never forget that winter morning as I watched our girls, just 7 and 10 years old, pile into those black SUVs with all those men with guns. And that's all their little faces pressed up against the window, and the only thing I could think was, What have we done? At that moment, I realized that our time in the White House would form the foundation of who they would become. And how well we manage this experience could truly make or break them.

That is what Barack and I think about every day as he tried to guide and protect our girls from the challenges of this unusual life in the spotlight. How we urged them to ignore those who question their father’s citizenship or faith. How we insist that the hateful language they hear from public figures on TV does not represent the true spirit of this country. How we explain that when someone is cruel or acts like a bully, you don't stoop to their level. Our motto is, when they go low, we go high.

With every word we utter, with every action we take, we know our kids are watching us. We as parents are the most important role model.

Let me tell you, Barack and I take that same approach to our jobs as president and first lady because we know that our words and actions matter, not just to our girls but the children across this country. Kids who say, "I saw you on TV," "I wrote the report on you for school." Kids like the little black boy who looked up at my husband, his eyes wide with hope, and he wondered, Is my hair like yours?

Make no mistake about it, this November, when we get to the polls, that is what we are deciding. Not Democrat or Republican, not left or right. In this election, and every election, it is about who will have the power to shape our children for the next four or eight years of their lives. I am you tonight because in this election, there is only one person who I trust with that responsibility, only one person who I believe is truly qualified to be president of the United States, and that is our friend Hillary Clinton.

I trust Hillary to lead this country because I have seen her lifelong devotion to our nation’s children. Not just her own daughter, who she has raised to perfection, but every child who needs a champion: kids who take the long way to school to avoid the gangs. Kids who wonder how they will ever afford college. Kids whose parents don't speak a word of English, but dream of a better life; who look to us to dream of what they can be.

Hillary has spent decades doing the relentless work to actually make a difference in their lives. Advocating for kids with disabilities as a young lawyer, fighting for children’s health care as first lady, and for quality child care in the senate.

And when she did not win the nomination eight years ago, she did not get angry or disillusioned. Hillary did not pack up and go home because ... Hillary knows that this is so much bigger than her own disappointment. She proudly stepped up to serve our country once again as secretary of state, traveling the globe to keep our kids safe. There were moments when Hillary could have decided that this work was too hard, that the price of public service was too high, that she was tired of being [torn] apart for how she looked, or how she talked, or even how she laughed.

But here's the thing: What I admire most about Hillary is that she never buckles under pressure.

She never takes the easy way out. And Hillary Clinton has never quit on anything in her life. And when I think about the kind of president that I want for my girls and all our children, that is what I want. I want someone with the proven strength to persevere.

Somebody who knows this job and takes it seriously. Somebody who understands that the issues of our nation are not black or white. It cannot be boiled down to 140 characters. Because when you have the nuclear codes at your fingertips and the military in your command, you can't make snap decisions. You can't have thin skin or a tendency to lash out. You need to be steady and measured and well-informed.

The DNC crowd watches as Michelle Obama speaks
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The DNC crowd watches as Michelle Obama speaks.
I want a president with a record of public service. Someone whose life’s work shows our children that we don't chase fame and fortune for ourselves; we fight to give everyone a chance to succeed. And we give back even when we are struggling ourselves because we know that there there is someone worse off. There but for the grace of God, go I. I want a president who will teach our children that everyone in this country matters.

A president that truly believes in the [precedent] that our founders put forth all those years ago — that we are all created equal, each a beloved part of the great American story. When crisis hits, we don't turn against each other, we listen to each other. We lean on each other. We are always stronger together. I am here tonight because I know that that is the kind of president Hillary Clinton will be and that is why in this election, I'm with her.

You see, Hillary understands that the presidency is about one thing and one thing only. It is about leaving something better for our kids. That is how we have always moved this country forward — by all of us coming together on behalf of our children. Volunteering to coach the team, teach the Sunday school class, because they know it takes a village.

Heroes of every color and creed who wear the uniform and risk their lives to pass on those blessings of liberty; police officers and protesters in Dallas who all that really want to keep our children safe; people who lined up in Orlando to donate blood because it could have been their son, or their daughter in the club.

Leaders like Tim Kaine, who show our kids what decency and devotion look like. Leaders like Hillary Clinton, who have the guts and the grace to keep coming back and putting those cracks in the highest and hardest glass ceiling until they finally break through, lifting all of us along with her.

That is the story of this country. The story that has brought me to the stage tonight. The story of generations of people who felt the lash of bondage, the shame of servitude, the sting of segregation, who kept on striving, and hoping, and doing what needed to be done. So that today, I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves. And I watch my daughters — two beautiful intelligent black young women — play with the dog on the White House lawn

And because of Hillary Clinton, my daughters and all of our sons and daughters now take for granted that a woman can be president of the United States.

Don't let anyone ever tell you that this country is not great. That somehow we need to make it great again. Because this right now is the greatest country on Earth.

And as my daughters set out on the world, I want a leader who is worthy of that truth, a leader worthy of my girls’ promise and all of our kids’ promise. A leader who will be guided every day by the love and hope and impossibly big dreams that we all have for our children.

In this election, we cannot sit back and hope that everything works out for the best, we cannot afford to be tired or frustrated or cynical. Hear me: Between now and November, we need to do what we did eight years ago and four years ago. We need to knock on every door, we need to get out every vote, we need to pour every last ounce of passion into electing Hillary Clinton as president of the United States of America. Let's get to work. Thank you all and God bless.

She spoke core truths with grace and eloquence. She nailed it.

Plagiarize this, Melania.
 

Starbuck1975

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It is a choice between hate, anger, fear, and division vs. love, compassion, bravery and unity. It sounds like comic book stuff, but it is.
The irony in all of this is that there is room for a healthy debate on the positions that lie in between. We need to have a more rationale and manageable immigration policy. The status quo is not sustainable yet we should be able to have that conversation without labeling anyone rapists or criminals. The American middle class continues to free fall into decline due to globalization, and I don't see further free trade as the remedy. Obama fumbled on Middle East policy, do we really want to elect the person who ran the State Department? The EU is fracturing. Now is the time for a bold and intelligent leader. Instead we are stuck with a reality show con man and a politics as usual.

Neither is what the country needs right now.
 
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dank69

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Did you even watch the event? I watched the entire thing. At a very loud volume.

Find me a single time anyone chanted Clinton. Then, when you come back unable to I will send you a dozen chants of "WE TRUSTED YOU", "LOCK HER UP", "BERNIE", and "TRUMP". Those aren't even starting on the massive number of times people, such as Sarah Silverman, were boo'd into shutting up.

Stop watching the spoon fed corrupt media's sound bytes and watch the actual video before you look even more misinformed than the majority here with their blinders on, please.
Yes I turned it on during Warren's speech and watched til the end. I heard people booing when she and Bernie described Trump's shitty policies. Nice try, though. Not really, actually, it was a shitty try, bu I guess that is to be expected from someone who makes bets and then doesn't honor them. And then tries to pretend the bet was about something else. I don't recall ever saying this to anyone here before: get the fuck out of here. Even spidey was man enough to pay out on his bets, scumbag.
 

Perknose

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She spoke no truths at all, just the usual drivel from a worthless idiot. Good riddance to her when she finally goes in January.

I feel sorry for the corrosive ugliness in which you have mired yourself . . . the cancerous ugliness you take in with each breath, the miasma of partisan insanity that clouds your vision and poisons your heart.

I am confident that History will recognize Barack Obama for all that he managed to accomplish in the face of a veritable tsunami of petulant, personal, dead-ender obstruction, shot through with vitriol and hate. History will rate him as one of our better Presidents, and Michelle as one of the finer first ladies.

I'm afraid this news will never reach the fetid morass, the teeming swamp of ugliness into which you have fallen.

May God have mercy on your hate-crippled soul.
 

agent00f

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Michelle Obama is very well spoken. Melania sounds like she just moved to America yesterday. Michelle is also educated and Melania is not. Well...atleast she has plenty of nude photos out there. It got her pretty far, obviously...she has a chance to be a First Lady. Probably the first one in history to have skanky photos of herself online.


But lets put class back into the white house lol I think Trump may be the first Pres hopeful that has 5 kids by 3 baby mamas.

It's ok cus he's white. Imagine if Obama's kid had a child out of wedlock like Palin's, much less shop for wives like import exotics.

Watching someone sell their very soul to the devil is not for the faint of heart.

I can sort of understand why Republicans want to incite some kind of Democrat civil war. But it's odd when liberals & such didn't see this coming. Did they really think Sanders was going to pull a Trump?

Yeah, her speechwriter did a great job. Michelle read it well.

Let's put it this way, educated people can sort of see Michelle writing like this. Can they see you or Melania doing the same?
 

michal1980

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It is a choice between hate, anger, fear, and division vs. love, compassion, bravery and unity. It sounds like comic book stuff, but it is.

Oh the libs are for love, and compassion, and unity?

Since when?

They are always about division politics.

Black people vs white.

Rich vs poor.

Old vs young.


Theres nothing about unity in the democratic party, its all about how do we divided people up, and get them to vote for us.
 

michal1980

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I feel sorry for the corrosive ugliness in which you have mired yourself . . . the cancerous ugliness you take in with each breath, the miasma of partisan insanity that clouds your vision and poisons your heart.

I am confident that History will recognize Barack Obama for all that he managed to accomplish in the face of a veritable tsunami of petulant, personal, dead-ender obstruction, shot through with vitriol and hate. History will rate him as one of our better Presidents, and Michelle as one of the finer first ladies.

I'm afraid this news will never reach the fetid morass, the teeming swamp of ugliness into which you have fallen.

May God have mercy on your hate-crippled soul.

Yes, Obama made the richer richer. Helped grow the divide between rich and poor. Made race relations worse.

Such a great president.
 

agent00f

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What you see is what you get...a proven and very long track record of failures and wars. Everything she touches turns to shit...everything.

Just putting it out there but only your own credibility suffers with ridiculously hyperbolic statements. For all her faults she did pretty well as first lady & in ny, and her foreign policy is pretty much par for course. It's hard to argue Syria is worse than Korea or Vietnam or any number of american interventions.

I mean, even I think Trump's pretty good at entertaining & rousing the plebs.
 

PokerGuy

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I am confident that History will recognize Barack Obama for all that he managed to accomplish in the face of a veritable tsunami of petulant, personal, dead-ender obstruction, shot through with vitriol and hate. History will rate him as one of our better Presidents, and Michelle as one of the finer first ladies.

I'm afraid this news will never reach the fetid morass, the teeming swamp of ugliness into which you have fallen.

May God have mercy on your hate-crippled soul.

hahaha, funny guy. I'm an extremely happy person, always a smile and grateful for all I have. Hate-crippled. LOL, that's great. I guess if you call it like it is you must have a "hate-crippled" soul. Thanks for the laugh, very amusing indeed.

And as for history, if you take off the ideology colored lenses for just a second, you'd see the reality of a more divided country than ever, heading on the wrong path, with more people in poverty every day, with political correctness growing like a cancer and less freedom for the people every day. If you think those are good outcomes, then yes, he's a wonderful president. If not, then no.
 
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