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PokerGuy

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No, ugly is ugly. It's not a Partisan thing. It's weird that anyone tries to make that true. In your day to day life interacting with other people you certainly don't ask someone what party they identify with. You look around you and see behavior that sits well with you or does not. If the behavior is wrong, it's wrong. You know this.

Unfortunately, it's clear that while what you're saying is true for some, it's obviously not true for many. That's why this case is such a good example. Notice the massive outrage and protests from feminist groups for this sexism towards a woman? No, you don't because they are silent. Why are they silent? Because the PC offending party is a leftist. That's OK. If it had been a conservative, all hell would have broken loose.

Queue the usual lefty apologists......

Trump stands apart... from most people, from his own party and from reality. Because he asked to be President and won the position he will be held to a higher standard. Again, it's not only because he's gross, he's also a predator, dangerous, blah blah blah. I won't compare a whole Party to the words and actions of that man. Heck, they could (and shouldn't) step up their game and still not compare. I repeat, he stands apart and in the worst way. He does that to himself, not CNN.

What does this incident have to do with Trump? You realize he's not involved at all in this right? It's also interesting that you want to hold Trump to that standard, but I didn't hear anything about president Clinton who was accused of rape, perjured himself, lied to the people etc etc.
 

interchange

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Only you can become enlightened.

I have many thoughts to share, but they are simply a matter of context. My personal take is that the typical poster here is not engaging in activity toward a goal of enlightenment, thus my opinions are working on a different set of values than yours. Moreover, I am curious about such a value. I don't truly know what "enlightenment" is. And my feeling is you are likely to say I cannot without experiencing it. So then, regardless of my capacity to conjure faith here, can you help me understand why I might choose to try?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Unfortunately, it's clear that while what you're saying is true for some, it's obviously not true for many. That's why this case is such a good example. Notice the massive outrage and protests from feminist groups for this sexism towards a woman? No, you don't because they are silent. Why are they silent? Because the PC offending party is a leftist. That's OK. If it had been a conservative, all hell would have broken loose.

Queue the usual lefty apologists......



What does this incident have to do with Trump? You realize he's not involved at all in this right? It's also interesting that you want to hold Trump to that standard, but I didn't hear anything about president Clinton who was accused of rape, perjured himself, lied to the people etc etc.

You seem one of those guys who has real trouble figuring why you get slapped trying to make the same moves on women that work out for Rico Suave, then go on /r/MensRights and such to whine about it. This is in no way any sort of hyperbole as those places are filled with RedState losers, where many of your peers fit right in. They literally cannot figure it out, and to some degree are figures of sympathy instead of just ridicule.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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That's an offensive statement and should have been swiftly apologized for.

And your attempt to expand this conduct to create a moral equivalency here between Democrats and Republicans is a bunch of nonsense.

He actually defended it.

"Where I grew up saying that someone is looking or acting 'familiar' simply means that they are behaving too comfortably," Richmond said. "I decided to use that joke due to the large social media backlash over her inappropriate posture considering there were more than 60 HBCU Presidents in the room."

How exactly is that posture inappropriate considering the context of her taking a picture of people across the room??? It's not like she was kneeling directly in front of one of them and bobbing her head.
 

Younigue

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The reality here is that their's a huge double standard and they'll rarely if ever acknowledge their hypocrisy except to rationalize it. The left is now more emotional than ever there is no longer any room for reasonable cooperation and compromise with these people. Conservatives need to understand and come to grips with this reality asap and act accordingly.

It's deeply hilarious that you put Republican representatives behavior as being superior to that of Democrat representatives. They are all politicians, they are all human and bad behavior on either side is ridiculous. You are capable of thinking outside of your party. Wrong is wrong. Are you truly suggesting that you can be offended by a Dems remark that is equal to that of a Repubs remark but not the other way around? If so, that's a talent... one you shouldn't nurture. It's... silly in a pathetically sad way.
 

agent00f

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He actually defended it.

"Where I grew up saying that someone is looking or acting 'familiar' simply means that they are behaving too comfortably," Richmond said. "I decided to use that joke due to the large social media backlash over her inappropriate posture considering there were more than 60 HBCU Presidents in the room."

How exactly is that posture inappropriate considering the context of her taking a picture of people across the room??? It's not like she was kneeling directly in front of one of them and bobbing her head.

Kneeling legs apart in a short dress on the coach, a rather unfortunate position.

This thread is basically a demonstration of just how desperate conservatives are, because I seriously doubt anyone would clutch their pearls so tight even at Scott's remarks which precipitated this.
 
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I think typical worthless conservative blustering fulfills Occam's razor much better here.

Worth mentioning that's your go to choice even after one of your own has shown the promise land.
It's become increasingly apparent that you have some kind of "issue". Delusion and disorganized thinking are classic markers for schizophrenia. Occam's razor cuts deep.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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It's become increasingly apparent that you have some kind of "issue". Delusion and disorganized thinking are classic markers for schizophrenia. Occam's razor cuts deep.

Is that what you doctor told you when he explained your illness to you?
 

Younigue

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Unfortunately, it's clear that while what you're saying is true for some, it's obviously not true for many. That's why this case is such a good example. Notice the massive outrage and protests from feminist groups for this sexism towards a woman? No, you don't because they are silent. Why are they silent? Because the PC offending party is a leftist. That's OK. If it had been a conservative, all hell would have broken loose.

Queue the usual lefty apologists......



What does this incident have to do with Trump? You realize he's not involved at all in this right? It's also interesting that you want to hold Trump to that standard, but I didn't hear anything about president Clinton who was accused of rape, perjured himself, lied to the people etc etc.

Political parties are being discussed, he's a "Republican" and President and they are looking to him to be their Great Orange Savior, his behavior and words are pertinent to the topic at hand.

Of course Clinton's lies and behavior were discussed and raged over and he is still viewed as a dog even by the people who supported him but not in this conversion because he's not the current President.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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It's become increasingly apparent that you have some kind of "issue". Delusion and disorganized thinking are classic markers for schizophrenia. Occam's razor cuts deep.

The situation here is obvious. The degenerate sycophants for their pussy grabber in chief know shame nor integrity is meant for them, so it's their job to make hay of behavior remotely like theirs. Pointing this out makes them look real bad so they're similarly desperate to paint clear portrays of the situation as delusional. If anything else ever goes on upstairs in those conservative brains, surely it would be manifest alongside all typically degenerate behavior.

Speaking of delusion though, you seem under the impression that you have much in the way of redeeming qualities. Which posts of yours would suggest anything of the sort?
 
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The situation here is obvious. The degenerate sycophants for their pussy grabber in chief know shame nor integrity is meant for them, so it's their job to make hay of behavior remotely like theirs. Pointing this out makes them look real bad so they're similarly desperate to paint clear portrays of the situation as delusional. If anything else ever goes on upstairs in those conservative brains, surely it would be manifest alongside all typically degenerate behavior.

Speaking of delusion though, you seem under the impression that you have much in the way of redeeming qualities. Which posts of yours would suggest anything of the sort?
Just stop with the BS and honestly answer the question...are you currently, or have you ever, been treated for mental illness? I ask as I don't think I've ever seen such disjointed and convoluted thinking before.
 

Younigue

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Just stop with the BS and honestly answer the question...are you currently, or have you ever, been treated for mental illness? I ask as I don't think I've ever seen such disjointed and convoluted thinking before.

Such a weak and tacky line of attack. Based on your posts am I to assume you lather yourself in some Orange Substance and kneel to your Tang God in prayer? If this is too nail on the head and I'm outing you, sorry.
 

PokerGuy

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It's deeply hilarious that you put Republican representatives behavior as being superior to that of Democrat representatives. They are all politicians, they are all human and bad behavior on either side is ridiculous. You are capable of thinking outside of your party. Wrong is wrong. Are you truly suggesting that you can be offended by a Dems remark that is equal to that of a Repubs remark but not the other way around? If so, that's a talent... one you shouldn't nurture. It's... silly in a pathetically sad way.

You are absolutely correct, wrong is wrong, and there are bad people of all stripes in all parties. My point in my posts wasn't that this was exclusively some democrat problem or anything like that. The point is how stark of a difference there is between how the PC groups react to a leftist saying something offensive vs a conservative saying something offensive. It exposes their hypocrisy as well as their true values (leftist agenda) rather than equality, equal treatment for all etc. In this case you can see clearly that his comments were sexist and he made the comment specifically because she's a woman. You'd think the feminist groups would be all over that right? No, because they value leftist ideology more that their supposed goals of equality. They'll go as far as to explain away and rationalize the comments as OK, lest they have to go against one of their own ideology. Hypocrites, the lot of them.
 

Younigue

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You are absolutely correct, wrong is wrong, and there are bad people of all stripes in all parties. My point in my posts wasn't that this was exclusively some democrat problem or anything like that. The point is how stark of a difference there is between how the PC groups react to a leftist saying something offensive vs a conservative saying something offensive. It exposes their hypocrisy as well as their true values (leftist agenda) rather than equality, equal treatment for all etc. In this case you can see clearly that his comments were sexist and he made the comment specifically because she's a woman. You'd think the feminist groups would be all over that right? No, because they value leftist ideology more that their supposed goals of equality. They'll go as far as to explain away and rationalize the comments as OK, lest they have to go against one of their own ideology. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Alright I agree with you.

By "hypocrites, the lot of them" you include the portion of conservatives that do the same thing? I see it all the time on this forum alone.

Of course you don't know me but I am fair across the board for the most part and if I'm not being fair I admit it and the petty reason for it (I know myself well). I am not a feminist, I root for humans. I am definitely not a conservative nor am I traditionally religious but I do believe no matter who you are people should hold themselves to a standard that is caring, accepting, tolerant and absolutely fun and laughing (often inappropriately). Hold themselves to a standard they can respect and love themselves for. I'm not particularly sensitive about words so I don't actually care what the guy said about KAC. I don't care what the Republican said before him. Unnecessary? Sure. Offensive? Certainly not news or hate worthy. Devastating? Not in the slightest.

Any way, I think we're on the same page regarding this topic if you agree the Conservatives have look-the-other-way attackers as well. Hypocrites, the lot of them... or very human and thoughtless/insensitive.
 

ivwshane

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You are absolutely correct, wrong is wrong, and there are bad people of all stripes in all parties. My point in my posts wasn't that this was exclusively some democrat problem or anything like that. The point is how stark of a difference there is between how the PC groups react to a leftist saying something offensive vs a conservative saying something offensive. It exposes their hypocrisy as well as their true values (leftist agenda) rather than equality, equal treatment for all etc. In this case you can see clearly that his comments were sexist and he made the comment specifically because she's a woman. You'd think the feminist groups would be all over that right? No, because they value leftist ideology more that their supposed goals of equality. They'll go as far as to explain away and rationalize the comments as OK, lest they have to go against one of their own ideology. Hypocrites, the lot of them.


Who is this PC group you speak of? Are they on this forum?
 

baydude

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Wouldn't it be funny if it was Trump's mastermind plan to create all these leftist groups like CTR, ShareBlue demanding extreme political ideologies to piss off even moderate liberals while also playing the media to undermine their own loyal viewers so obviously they would stop trusting the news.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Wouldn't it be funny if it was Trump's mastermind plan to create all these leftist groups like CTR, ShareBlue demanding extreme political ideologies to piss off even moderate liberals while also playing the media to undermine their own loyal viewers so obviously they would stop trusting the news.

A wee bit drunk already are we?
 

Younigue

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Wouldn't it be funny if it was Trump's mastermind plan to create all these leftist groups like CTR, ShareBlue demanding extreme political ideologies to piss off even moderate liberals while also playing the media to undermine their own loyal viewers so obviously they would stop trusting the news.

Seems counter productive. To what end would he mastermind this?
 

Moonbeam

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Did anyone read the whole article?



I don't like Richmond, but for a thread that purports to place the blame squarely on Democrats, this single quote might've provided some perspective.
That is the point I was making in Post #14 and why I found it difficult just to just flat our condemn the Democratic Congressman since, as far as I was concerned, there was a tit for tat apparently going on there, and all the condemnation the OP offered was one sided. Anyway, let me add that I am not going to congratulate you for seeing what you saw because I already have you down in my book as a seeker of truth and a lover of the good.
 
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Moonbeam

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The reality here is that there's a huge double standard and they'll rarely if ever acknowledge their hypocrisy except to rationalize it. The left is now more emotional than ever and there is no longer any room for reasonable cooperation and compromise with these people. Conservatives need to understand and come to grips with this reality asap and act accordingly.
Wow, I find this truly amazing. What I see is the right demonizing the left since the cold war ended and the chickens coming home to roost. The right has raised up the Monster of the Id and now you want to kill it. How can I tell you how psychologically backward that is?

I can't, I know. I wish I could have condemned the behavior of the left in this instance as pure flat out evil of the kind that would evoke flat out condemnation you so vividly believe the left is doing apparently 24 7 and in their sleep, but my apparent mental illness made it impossible not to rationalize away. I kept seeing what the Republican Senator said about Clinton and the couch, and douche bag that I am, I couldn't help but cut him some slack and protest the unbalanced way the issue was presented, all the blame supposed to be going to only the Democrat. So Imagine how pissed off I am that I could not make a flat out denunciation of just the one individual so I could demonstrate that at least one liberal here is capable of criticizing my own team, not that I actually identify as a Democrat.

And the reason it pisses me off is that as far as I can tell and as hard as I try to be reasonable and as much as I wish to see your point of view and agree that the side I lean toward is the guilty party here, I seem to have a brain defect that prevents it. And on top of everything else, I have read all of these peer reviewed scientific studies that tell me the same thing, that the liberals who make up the scientific community almost exclusively agree with me that it is conservatives who more distort reality when their egos and ego status is involved.

I really don't mind being the piece of shit that you describe, this leftest delusional who is dangerous to morality. I don't mind the fact that I am evil, the worst person in the world because that is how I've felt since I was a child, the big difference between you and me. apparently being that I know it. The only problem that I have is that I just don't see it. Apparently I am morally bankrupt and a disgusting human being who rationalized all my evil into a box that I hand to you. Please forgive me for I know not what I do.
 
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