Democrats lead Republicans by 52% to 41% in new poll

[Burpo]

52% and growing..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/15/politics/democratic-generic-ballot-advantage/index.html

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Ok ok GOOD! Now... just keep believing this going into the midterms and into 2020.

I hear that works wonders....


Yes... good... good... keep giving your political party over confidence...

 

[Mai72]

I'm sorry.

I don't believe in these polls. Didn't Hillary have a commanding lead over Trump to only lose the election?

 

[Burpo]

It's just a poll. I have no party.

 

[Amused]

I'm sorry.

I don't believe in these polls. Didn't Hillary have a commanding lead over Trump to only lose the election?

I find it funny that everyone seems to conveniently forget a last minute spoiler (Comey reopening the BS investigation only to shut it down a week later) turned the polls.

There is no way ANY poll could be accurate with a bomb thrown last minute like that.

And yet, the narrative is the polls were wrong, and the pollsters are all in on some big conspiracy. Derp.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's just a poll. I have no party.

And thats what we're saying. Judging things by "polls" is absolutely retarded. Simply saying - plenty of people will see headlines for said polls -and they may or may not make a determination on whether to show up based on the polls. Overall, it's not healthy to report on illogical things such as voter turnout.

 

[jackstar7]

Confirm you haven't been purged from the rolls.

Take nothing for granted.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Hillary did win the popular vote by +2%. Pretty sure that’s exactly where the polls had her just before the election.

 

[Amused]

Hillary did win the popular vote by +2%. Pretty sure that’s exactly where the polls had her just before the election.

Yes, but the polls did not quite accurately reflect the swing states which flipped for Trump at the last minute.

And that is due solely to the last minute bomb thrown by Comey.

 

[Bitek]

I'm sorry.

I don't believe in these polls. Didn't Hillary have a commanding lead over Trump to only lose the election?

I find it funny that everyone seems to conveniently forget a last minute spoiler (Comey reopening the BS investigation only to shut it down a week later) turned the polls and the actual range of potential outcomes.

There is no way ANY poll could be accurate with a bomb thrown last minute like that.

And yet, the narrative is the polls were wrong, and the pollsters are all in on some big conspiracy. Derp.

I've also read that Hillary never actually lead outside the poll margins of error, and all the assumptions of her winning were part misinterpretations of the numbers.

That being said, don't count your chickens until Nov 5th.

 

[jackstar7]

Yes, but the polls did not quite accurately reflect the swing states which flipped for Trump at the last minute.

And that is due solely to the last minute bomb thrown by Comey.

Mmmmmaybe.
[puts on tinfoil]
Welcome to my InfoFarce talk...

 

[fskimospy]

I'm sorry.

I don't believe in these polls. Didn't Hillary have a commanding lead over Trump to only lose the election?

No, in fact the national polls almost perfectly nailed the final vote outcome.

 

[Amused]

Mmmmmaybe.
[puts on tinfoil]
Welcome to my InfoFarce talk...

Oh come on. You cannot say that last minute bomb from Comey had no negative effect for Clinton.

 

[jackstar7]

Oh come on. You cannot say that last minute bomb from Comey had no negative effect for Clinton.

Oh, I wasn't making that counter-point. I was saying that it wasn't the ONLY thing that might have played a role in things.

But our elections are VERY SECURE! [eyes darting back and forth]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Yes, but the polls did not quite accurately reflect the swing states which flipped for Trump at the last minute.

And that is due solely to the last minute bomb thrown by Comey.

Cambridge Analytica, Jill Stein, and the GRU also deserve some credit for those swing states.

 

[cytg111]

52% and growing..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/15/politics/democratic-generic-ballot-advantage/index.html

BUT thats before 150 million Russians vote...

 

[Amused]

Cambridge Analytica, Jill Stein, and the GRU also deserve some credit for those swing states.

Yes, but those efforts had been ongoing for over a year. The last polls showed a Clinton advantage. And then the bomb from Comey dropped.

Yes, some election tampering and hacking may have been involved, but that's not known for sure yet. But we do know a gigantic bombshell feeding into the Clinton conspiracies dropped last minute. And that, more than anything else explains why the last few polls were inaccurate. They could not have accounted for the fallout of the Comey bomb.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Yes, but those efforts had been ongoing for over a year. The last polls showed a Clinton advantage. And then the bomb from Comey dropped.

What did Comey himself do? He reported the reopening of the Clinton case to the oversight committee. Congressional oversight then leaked it to the press. Comey fucked up but he was screwed either way.

It was Cambridge Analytica and the Russian influence machine in conjunction with Comey’s reopening that had the real impact on voters. It’s objectively absurd to think Comey alone reopening the case persuaded enough voters to not vote for Clinton that late in the game to swing the election.

The impact of the influence operation and syncing the messaging with Trump’s rhetoric is where the damage was done. The Comey memo played into that operation.

Blaming it all on Comey seems like a convenient scapegoat when there was a well documented and sophisticated Russian military operation working in the background.

 

[Amused]

What did Comey himself do? He reported the reopening of the Clinton case to the oversight committee. Congressional oversight then leaked it to the press. Comey fucked up but he was screwed either way.

It was Cambridge Analytica and the Russian influence machine in conjunction with Comey’s reopening that had the real impact on voters. It’s objectively absurd to think Comey alone reopening the case persuaded enough voters to not vote for Clinton that late in the game to swing the election.

The impact of the influence operation and syncing the messaging with Trump’s rhetoric is where the damage was done. The Comey memo played into that operation.

Blaming it all on Comey seems like a convenient scapegoat when there was a well documented and sophisticated Russian military operation working in the background.

OK, the topic here is the narrative that the polls called the race incorrectly. Not who blew the election or who influenced it. But why, exactly, the last polls the week before the election predicted the wrong outcome.

And only one thing happened that would have made the polls taken a week before the election flip so dramatically in such a short time. And that was the last minute breaking news that Comey was reopening the investigation. Only a bombshell like that could make the polls taken just before it so inaccurate.

 

[Jhhnn]

I find it funny that everyone seems to conveniently forget a last minute spoiler (Comey reopening the BS investigation only to shut it down a week later) turned the polls.

There is no way ANY poll could be accurate with a bomb thrown last minute like that.

And yet, the narrative is the polls were wrong, and the pollsters are all in on some big conspiracy. Derp.

Cambridge Analytica, Jill Stein, and the GRU also deserve some credit for those swing states.

Don't leave out the GOP. Even Ted Cruz manned the phones for Trump.

This election is a whole different animal. They don't have She who must not be named to kick around.

Expect very strong Dem turnout everywhere.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

OK, the topic here is the narrative that the polls called the race incorrectly. Not who blew the election or who influenced it. But why, exactly, the last polls the week before the election predicted the wrong outcome.

And only one thing happened that would have made the polls taken a week before the election flip so dramatically in such a short time. And that was the last minute breaking news that Comey was reopening the investigation. Only a bombshell like that could make the polls taken just before it so inaccurate.

Looking at what happened with Brexit might help explain just how powerful a well targeted influence operation can be in such a short period of time.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1022898049121697792?s=21

 

[Jhhnn]

Looking at what happened with Brexit might help explain just how powerful a well targeted influence operation can be in such a short period of time.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1022898049121697792?s=21

Building the craziness to a crescendo at just the right time. Seems familiar somehow.

Like I offered earlier- this is a different kind of election because it can't be focused like that other than against the GOP.

 

[greatnoob]

“Polls are wrong” said by retards who don’t have a basic understanding of statistics and heavily discount the effect their non-democratic voting system has on the final outcome.

 

[kage69]

Seems about right, just going on the people I know who used to support the guy. The disgust with Il Douche has gone through the roof. The family separation and Helsinki debacle seemed to be tipping points. This dementia riddled Russian asset and racist is going to get a double tap: a blue wave/pink tsunami combo.

When this traitor is out of office we're throwing a huge party.

 

[Andro Boy]

I'm sorry.

I don't believe in these polls. Didn't Hillary have a commanding lead over Trump to only lose the election?

She did until that last week of the election. Even then, she was still on the upper end of the margin of error.