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OBLAMA2009

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republicanism is a pretty discredited political philospohy, the only reason they ever elect anyone is because their demographic (older white people) show up at the polls better than the liberals.
 

TerryMathews

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The notion that Democrats are out to grab guns is nothing but a pile of horseshit propaganda fostered by the NRA and the Republican party to herd paranoid psychotics to the poles and gun stores.

Explain the current events in Connecticut then.
 

z1ggy

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May 17, 2008
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Explain the current events in Connecticut then.

His news sources may not consider it newsworthy enough to report. He may be blissfully unaware.

Yep. I'm in CT..It's a load of crap honestly. I was 3 days away from being a criminal because I had two 17 round mags that I didn't "register" with the state.

It's a joke honestly. What good is the state doing limiting me.. a law abiding citizen who passed all their checks. And now I can't ever buy an AR either. I'm just glad they at least still give us the right to carry.

I do tend to aree though, republicans do tend to oppose ANY legislation in relation to guns. CT (other than the dumb new laws) has a pretty good system in place that I think should be federally implemented. It would at least help to keep guns out of some of the wrong hands.
 
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OP is correct in a ham handed kind of way, the Democratic party lacks white guys. Similar to how the Tea Party lacks young people or the Republicans lack Hispanic. It only makes sense to reach out to the people you are missing to attract more votes.
 

TerryMathews

Lifer
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CT (other than the dumb new laws) has a pretty good system in place that I think should be federally implemented. It would at least help to keep guns out of some of the wrong hands.

Your premise is flawed though in assuming that these gun control laws are effective. Study after study has concluded that they have no appreciable effect on gun violence.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Gun control is 45 year old failed experiment.
 

Socio

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Democrats are under this delusion that only old rich white people vote republican. I work with many people who are not white and who ARE conservative. Frankly, I think in the past two POTUS elections, people didn't believe B.O. would be elected, then elected again. This time people will wise up and get off their asses and vote. Liberal / Progressive ideology is never going to build this country back up to what she once was. America is no longer the greatest country in the world and that's really sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw

It is not designed too, hence the term "fundamentally transform" it has to destroy what it was first in order to transform it in to something else.

It will replace individual liberty with government mandate, Obamacare is a prime example, and control the populace by government dependence.

Which is why Progressive Liberals are big government and we have an ever growing welfare system that has already exceeded 1 trillion a year.

The key to progressive liberalism much like socialism lies in the subservience of the individual to the state. In other words, under a progressive liberal society we the individuals will become tools of the state birth to death, nothing more.

The ugly truth;

We will be destined to live a life of squalor solely dependent on the government with no hope of achieving better in order to maintain equality for all and absolute power for the government.
 

z1ggy

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Your premise is flawed though in assuming that these gun control laws are effective. Study after study has concluded that they have no appreciable effect on gun violence.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Gun control is 45 year old failed experiment.

No that would be the definition of insanity.. but yeah.

My point was, say in TX or FL you can basically go in to a gun store, show them that you are 18 via a drivers license, and walk out with a gun.

In CT, you need to pass vigorous steps in order to walk into that same store to purchase a gun. It a deterant to some nut who wants a gun quick to go off somebody. That's all I am in support of. Not limiting which guns you can purchase or how many..Just making it harder for that mentally unstable guy to go get one.

So when they take that away too, you'll just be disappointed, huh?

Pretty much...? Not sure what you're getting at. Not like people around here would revolt. We have it too nice to risk dying for something we can't change short of a total civil war.
 

Texashiker

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You are an un-evolved, unrepentant bigot, a useless and dying byproduct of a dying and backward age,,,,

You have become aware of the fact that you are worthless,

Translated, I am a bigot and worthless because I believe people should take responsibility for their actions and live by a certain code of moral conduct?

Is that right?

Historically democrats were supposed to stand for the working class. People who got their hands dirty and worked in the heat and worked in the cold everyday.

Mixed in with that hard work was a sense of family values. Parents took care of their children, took time with their kids, and provided for their families.

What was not mixed in with that hard work was taking your daughter to an abortion clinic, or giving your job away to an immigrant who was willing to work for less money, or letting the government ban your grandfathers rifle.

The family values that republicans represent are core family values. Values that most Americans hold true.

Liberals would tell us we are dying breed? I think not.

The truth is liberals are the dying breed. Dying at the hands of your abortion providers and gays.

The only hope liberals have is to corrupt the minds of children. We all know how much liberals hate children in general. If you loved children, you would not want to see so many killed.

As democrats raise the liberal baby killing and gay rights banner ever higher, the party is driving white male voters to the republicans and third parties.

The only hope democrats have in the years to come is to legalize millions of new voters. Which will create massive problems for social programs. But who cares about paying for food stamps and helping working class families get a college education as long as minority teenage girls can kill their unborn children at will.
 
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TerryMathews

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In CT, you need to pass vigorous steps in order to walk into that same store to purchase a gun. It a deterant to some nut who wants a gun quick to go off somebody. That's all I am in support of. Not limiting which guns you can purchase or how many..Just making it harder for that mentally unstable guy to go get one.

Yeah, I get what the law is intended to do. It doesn't work. Not to be crass about it, but look at Newtown. No state gun laws were broken in that situation.
 

boomerang

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Pretty much...? Not sure what you're getting at. Not like people around here would revolt. We have it too nice to risk dying for something we can't change short of a total civil war.
How about if those same people decided you were living in too nice a home? That you needed to partition the place up to provide shelter for others? Maybe you're being paid too much? Your car is too nice? You have a motorcyle and others don't. How about your bank account is too large?

Is there anything the government could take away from you that would be a tipping point?
 

z1ggy

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Yeah, I get what the law is intended to do. It doesn't work. Not to be crass about it, but look at Newtown. No state gun laws were broken in that situation.

Only other thing would be making it law that guns need to be locked up if minors are present in the home. Obviously it's a great idea to do so regardless, but it's not enforceable. It's really only enforceable via random police checks (never happening, nor should it) or when it's too late. So really, it does nothing.

Nothing really can help. It's a culture thing, yadda yadda yadda I'm beating a dead horse.
 

z1ggy

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How about if those same people decided you were living in too nice a home? That you needed to partition the place up to provide shelter for others? Maybe you're being paid too much? Your car is too nice? You have a motorcyle and others don't. How about your bank account is too large?

Is there anything the government could take away from you that would be a tipping point?

You're reaching for straws now. Let's head back to reality.
 

shadow9d9

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Jul 6, 2004
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republicanism is a pretty discredited political philospohy, the only reason they ever elect anyone is because their demographic (older white people) show up at the polls better than the liberals.

It is more that the Republicans try to restrict access to the polls every way they can, and a majority of people vote for Democrats.
 

Texashiker

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It is more that the Republicans try to restrict access to the polls every way they can

As in?

Give me an example of how republicans try to restrict access.

My wife and I recently moved. I had no problem getting a new drivers license, or getting registered to vote. In fact, it was pretty easy.

When I got my new drivers license the Texas department of public safety sent my county my updated address. The county then sent me my new voting card.

Overall, the process was very easy.
 
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Until republicans adopt social liberal views they are a dying breed. Their fiscal issues im usually fine with. But social trumps fiscal so....
 

shadow9d9

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Translated, I am a bigot and worthless because I believe people should take responsibility for their actions and live by a certain code of moral conduct?

Is that right?

Historically democrats were supposed to stand for the working class. People who got their hands dirty and worked in the heat and worked in the cold everyday.

Mixed in with that hard work was a sense of family values. Parents took care of their children, took time with their kids, and provided for their families.

What was not mixed in with that hard work was taking your daughter to an abortion clinic, or giving your job away to an immigrant who was willing to work for less money, or letting the government ban your grandfathers rifle.

The family values that republicans represent are core family values. Values that most Americans hold true.

Liberals would tell us we are dying breed? I think not.

The truth is liberals are the dying breed. Dying at the hands of your abortion providers and gays.

The only hope liberals have is to corrupt the minds of children. We all know how much liberals hate children in general. If you loved children, you would not want to see so many killed.

As democrats raise the liberal baby killing and gay rights banner ever higher, the party is driving white male voters to the republicans and third parties.

The only hope democrats have in the years to come is to legalize millions of new voters. Which will create massive problems for social programs. But who cares about paying for food stamps and helping working class families get a college education as long as minority teenage girls can kill their unborn children at will.

Liberals have no presence in US politics outside of one senator.

Republicans talk about "family values" just like they talk about "fiscal responsibility." Neither actually represent the party. The convince the fools though!

Conspiracy theories about killing clumps of cells which was decided to be legal by a 40 year old supreme court case and about giving human beings equal rights isn't a problem. It wasn't a problem when interracial marriage was allowed or any other time when the bigots like you had to deal with social progress.

You are a relic. Your time of bigotry has passed. If posting on an internet forum makes you feel more relevant, then that is better than shooting up a place, so continue on. Blame a phantom "liberal" group that doesn't exist. Anything you need to do to avoid facing reality.
 

shadow9d9

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Jul 6, 2004
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OP is correct in a ham handed kind of way, the Democratic party lacks white guys. Similar to how the Tea Party lacks young people or the Republicans lack Hispanic. It only makes sense to reach out to the people you are missing to attract more votes.

Old white guys perhaps. They definitely have women, young people, and all minorities though!
 

bshole

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Obama, however, is not anything near what this country needs right now.

My retirement assets have nearly tripled under Obama, the country may not need Obama but I sure do. If a Republican is our next President I will be exiting the market with all due haste. After the debacle of Bush, I would never trust the Republicans with my retirement money again. Put your money where your mouth is and see what the Republicans do with it....
 

Texashiker

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Dec 18, 2010
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Conspiracy theories about killing clumps of cells which was decided to be legal by a 40 year old supreme court case

Which has turned into a war on minorities.


You are a relic. Your time of bigotry has passed. If posting on an internet forum makes you feel more relevant, then that is better than shooting up a place, so continue on. Blame a phantom "liberal" group that doesn't exist. Anything you need to do to avoid facing reality.

Relics like me vote.

And there is a reason why people like me do not vote democrat.


My retirement assets have nearly tripled under Obama

Are you profiting off that $85 billion a month the fed is pumping into the economy?
 

z1ggy

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Would've made no difference in Newtown.

I don't remember all the details, but weren't the guns just laying around in the open? If the mom put them all in a gun locker, locked it and never told the son the combo, he never would have had access to them in the first place.

Also, things like Newtown are indeed terrible, but are not the problem. Mass murders account for a very small % of actual gun deaths per year. Like I said, it's a social and cultural problem.
 
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