Dems didn't lose white men primarily because of race, but because Dems don't offer them anything

[GettyRoad]

Women: Abortion
Blacks: Civil rights and policing reform
Latinos: Immigration and civil rights

There's not much for white men to vote Democratic on, so it is not primarily "race", it's that there's nothing there for white males to consider.....

Hence, why I see a lot of white men going Independent next year for RFK Jr.

 

[biostud]

It is because what white men has it all, at what they want is restrict others freedom.

 

[GettyRoad]

It is because what white men has it all, at what they want is restrict others freedom.

The hard right ones, like Alito and Bannon, not the moderate white male voters I know and went to school with....they just want crime down and want taxes to be held down.....

 

[APU_Fusion]

Women: Abortion
Blacks: Civil rights and policing reform
Latinos: Immigration and civil rights

There's not much for white men to vote Democratic on, so it is not primarily "race", it's that there's nothing there for white males to consider.....

Hence, why I see a lot of white men going Independent next year for RFK Jr.

Go away MAGAT. No one is falling for horseshit. You mean Democrats offer nothing to ignorant, uneducated white men who want to subjugate others to feel better about themselves.

 

[APU_Fusion]

The hard right ones, like Alito and Bannon, not the moderate white male voters I know and went to school with....they just want crime down and want taxes to be held down.....

You mean the tax cuts to the rich that were permanent by Trump that includes temporary taxes cuts that expired to poor low and middle class? How about you normalize crime to population and see where crimes occur. Again, you are laughable in your trolling

 

[alien42]

STFU already you racist dirtbag.

 

[VashHT]

What a weird thing to say, Republicans sure as hell aren't really offering anything to white men unless you're a racist pos or really rich.

 

[Paratus]

What a weird thing to say, Republicans sure as hell aren't really offering anything to white men unless you're a racist pos or really rich.

That’s not true. The GOP is offering to make us poorer, more ignorant, and to die earlier in exchange for the freedom to hate some of our fellow citizens and a shitload of money and power for themselves and their benefactors.

 

[allisolm]

not the moderate white male voters I know and went to school with....they just want crime down and want taxes to be held down.....

Well then, good to know that you and all your school buddies will be voting for Biden since crime has gone down and taxes for next year should be less.

Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.

Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.

www.nbcnews.com

Tax brackets 2024| Planning for tax cuts | Fidelity

Tax brackets and the standard deduction are adjusting upward this year, which may cut your tax bill.

www.fidelity.com

 

[ivwshane]

What a weird thing to say, Republicans sure as hell aren't really offering anything to white men unless you're a racist pos or really rich.

No! Republicans offer a world where white men don’t have to worry about offending people and/or being offended. They offer a world where they can safely go to the bathroom knowing only men are in there. They offer a world where they don’t have to go to the doctors or take some stupid medicine or prolong their life in general. They offer a world where they can work themselves to the bone and receive very few pay raises because the satisfaction of a job done is worth more than money. They offer a world where everything is black and white, right and wrong and where you know what that is because your church tells you. They offer a world where billionaires are safe from excessive taxes and corporations have less regulations to worry about. They offer a world where it’s buyer beware and the illusion of consumer choice is allowed. They offer a world where the government gets to control women and keep them subservient. They offer a world where their children get to be indoctrinated by the church and where kids only have to learn “happy history”. They offer a world where police have the ultimate authority except over groups of men who like to play soldier. They offer a world where your tax dollars don’t do anything and yet government gets bigger and more efficient and sometimes, their tax burden temporarily goes down. They offer a world where feels are real and might makes right and the world and all it’s issues and solutions can be summed up in a slogan short enough to fit on your bumper. Which also is related to another thing republicans offer, the ability to spend ever larger amounts of money on fuel so that they can drive ever larger vehicles and dump even larger amounts of population because their health and the health of others and the planet don’t matter.

So you see, republicans offer quite a bit.

 

[HomerJS]

Women: Abortion
Blacks: Civil rights and policing reform
Latinos: Immigration and civil rights

There's not much for white men to vote Democratic on, so it is not primarily "race", it's that there's nothing there for white males to consider.....

Hence, why I see a lot of white men going Independent next year for RFK Jr.

What is RFK offering white guys?

I would submit to you white guys control a disproportionate amount of wealth and power. They already have everything. What do you think they need?

Biden has already said no tax hikes for <400k. Crime is far lower than it was in the 80s 90s.

 

[GettyRoad]

Go away MAGAT. No one is falling for horseshit. You mean Democrats offer nothing to ignorant, uneducated white men who want to subjugate others to feel better about themselves.

I'm not MAGA never have never will

Everyone should feel good about themselves, you think uneducated white males care about these things, they don't. If they did, they would have joined with BLM a long time, but since BLM makes them the scapegoat, why would they care to ally themselves with stuff like that?

 

[HomerJS]

I'm not MAGA never have never will

Everyone should feel good about themselves, you think uneducated white males care about these things, they don't. If they did, they would have joined with BLM a long time, but since BLM makes them the scapegoat, why would they care to ally themselves with stuff like that?

Since you think BLM is an organization that is just out to get white people a question for you…

Do you think black lives are treated like they matter to the same degree as white people in this country?

 

[GettyRoad]

What is RFK offering white guys?

I would submit to you white guys control a disproportionate amount of wealth and power. They already have everything. What do you think they need?

Biden has already said no tax hikes for <400k. Crime is far lower than it was in the 80s 90s.

An alternative to Biden and Trump....a lot of young white guys don't like neither of them
Stop blaming every white male for everyone wrong that is happening in America and then be surprised when they don't have empathy for BLM, etc, don't support kneeling, etc.

Is every Black or Latino to blame for everything? No.

 

[GettyRoad]

Since you think BLM is an organization that is just out to get white people a question for you…

Do you think black lives are treated like they matter to the same degree as white people in this country?

No, obviously not. BLM had momentum but made foolish tactics that cost them

 

[HomerJS]

An alternative to Biden and Trump....a lot of young white guys don't like neither of them
Stop blaming every white male for everyone wrong that is happening in America and then be surprised when they don't have empathy for BLM, etc, don't support kneeling, etc.

Is every Black or Latino to blame for everything? No.

That doesn’t answer the question. We already know RFK is not Biden. What is RFK offering Biden isn’t.

 

[HomerJS]

No, obviously not. BLM had momentum but made foolish tactics that cost them

Like what?

 

[HomerJS]

No, obviously not. BLM had momentum but made foolish tactics that cost them

If the answer is “obviously not” why not?

 

[Perknose]

There's not much for white men to vote Democratic on, , it's that there's nothing there for white males to consider.....

It's a supply chain problem. The Republicans cornered the market on dog whistles, so all the Dems have are facts, which your brain damaged Fox News slurping buddies can't hear or understand.

 

[GettyRoad]

That doesn’t answer the question. We already know RFK is not Biden. What is RFK offering Biden isn’t.

RFK is offering a different, younger vibe, anti-establishment vibe. RFK feels that if he is president, he would work with both parties to at least get healthcare costs down and maybe a immigration reform bill by July 2026 at the minimum

 

[mikeymikec]

Women: Abortion
Blacks: Civil rights and policing reform
Latinos: Immigration and civil rights

There's not much for white men to vote Democratic on, so it is not primarily "race", it's that there's nothing there for white males to consider.....

Hence, why I see a lot of white men going Independent next year for RFK Jr.

As a white male, I would see the three you listed as a win for me too.

"Well, you didn't offer me anything specifically so I'm going to vote for a nutjob!" - great logic.

 

[GettyRoad]

Like what?

Black Lives Matter movement marks 10 years of activism and renews its call to defund the police

The Black Lives Matter movement turns 10 years old on Thursday, marking the day in 2013 that the man who fatally shot Trayvon Martin was acquitted in his death.

apnews.com

https://blacklivesmatter.com/ahead-of-10-year-anniversary-black-lives-matter-releases-new-defund-the-police-ad-and-announces-proclamation-for-new-national-day/

How Elites Ruined the American Left

“If it’s true that the left is not appealing to the working class, then that is a failure of the left and not of the working class,” says Freddie deBoer.

www.politico.com

 

[HomerJS]

An alternative to Biden and Trump....a lot of young white guys don't like neither of them
Stop blaming every white male for everyone wrong that is happening in America and then be surprised when they don't have empathy for BLM, etc, don't support kneeling, etc.

Is every Black or Latino to blame for everything? No.

BTW name one prominent Democrat who blames white males for everything wrong in the country. I can articulate specific this that are the fault of white guys if you would like.

Much as I get accused of claiming it, white guys are not responsible for every bad thing

 

[Jaskalas]

What is RFK. offering white guys?

I would submit to you white guys control a disproportionate amount of wealth and power. They already have everything. What do you think they need?

Everybody rich and powerful?
Hawt damn, if only somebody would have told us white folks.

76% of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck
Oh, wait...

Maybe you should step back and stop stereotyping people. When most people are in need, it does you no good to try and pit poor people against each other. Especially by pretending most of them don't exist. Are some better off than others? Of course. But they could ALL use a better and stronger economic safety net. Better social programs to create a raised floor, better than we have it now. People could be inspired to vote for their own interests if only we had the words and the campaign to drive those points home and convert them into votes.

It is an effort that has grown too weak in the Rust Belt and other rural communities. Yes, they aren't "poor" like inner city. But their lives are one sick day away from ruin. All our people could benefit from more expansive Democrat Party economic policies. Do not turn them away because they are white.

 

[GettyRoad]

As a white male, I would see the three you listed as a win for me too.

"Well, you didn't offer me anything specifically so I'm going to vote for a nutjob!" - great logic.

Policing reform, probably yes, because a lot of unarmed white men are killed by police but don't make news....