Denmark has a King

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Greenman

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I’m not a royalist myself, but they represent the official Denmark, its culture and history and are apolitical, so in that regard it is a uniting factor for the nation.
I get it, like a Danish Taylor Swift.
 

cytg111

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This is so embarrassing. Clearly not a trait of a technological advanced society. Welfare recipients are welfare recipients. Hey I am all for UBI but I thought it was universally agreed upon it would be a somewhat fixed rate and not that 0.00001% of the population would get 100000 times more cake than everyone else.

Its Trump-base level stupid. Sorry but it is. False idols.
These idiots cheer this on, take my money, to receive the lower end of a caste-system. Shut the door close the windows on that please.

For context in terms of cost everything royal related adds up to about half a billion while the total amount allocated for core sciences is 20 billion. A king is worth 2.5% science. Come on.
 
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Torn Mind

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This is so embarrassing. Clearly not a trait of a technological advanced society. Welfare recipients are welfare recipients. Hey I am all for UBI but I thought it was universally agreed upon it would be a somewhat fixed rate and not that 0.00001% of the population would get 100000 times more cake than everyone else.

Its Trump-base level stupid. Sorry but it is. False idols.
These idiots cheer this on, take my money, to receive the lower end of a caste-system. Shut the door close the windows on that please.

For context in terms of cost everything royal related adds up to about half a billion while the total amount allocated for core sciences is 20 billion. A king is worth 2.5% science. Come on.
The American system replaced nobles with law degrees(from Ivy schools) but its English common law system. Law is partially independent of all outsiders.

Technology is irrelevant to the politics pf a location.
 

cytg111

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The American system replaced nobles with law degrees(from Ivy schools) but its English common law system. Law is partially independent of all outsiders.

Technology is irrelevant to the politics pf a location.
You think so?
 

IronWing

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The American system replaced nobles with law degrees(from Ivy schools) but its English common law system. Law is partially independent of all outsiders.

Technology is irrelevant to the politics pf a location.
Just when I think you’d pass a Turing test, you go and post something like this.
 

biostud

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This is so embarrassing. Clearly not a trait of a technological advanced society. Welfare recipients are welfare recipients. Hey I am all for UBI but I thought it was universally agreed upon it would be a somewhat fixed rate and not that 0.00001% of the population would get 100000 times more cake than everyone else.

Its Trump-base level stupid. Sorry but it is. False idols.
These idiots cheer this on, take my money, to receive the lower end of a caste-system. Shut the door close the windows on that please.

For context in terms of cost everything royal related adds up to about half a billion while the total amount allocated for core sciences is 20 billion. A king is worth 2.5% science. Come on.
We have a total budget of excess 1B dkk, and some of this go to different cultural activities like national broadcast service, churches, museums, arts etc. I think the monarchy of Denmark as part of this cultural package. One of the longest running reality shows.
The thing is, whether we like it or not, humanity is also about other things than rationality.
Obviously if I had to start a new state, I wouldn't choose monarchy, but I think it is part of our history and culture.
 

Torn Mind

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You think so?
Some of the most rapid advances and changes of tech occurred when Europe was still under some monarch, like Victoria. In fact, at the time, and I believe in the near future, there was a concern technology related to labor(robots and automation) will create labor strife during the transition. Back then, it was unskilled labor having to operate then-new machines and horrible conditions of having to do work. In the future modern time, it be just no work to get at all as automation and robots takes over. Communism grew out of a response to the times then, and it can come back in the future if sufficiently similar condition re-manifest...than potential toppling of "petitionable regimes" can occur once more, and government monopoly and tyranny gets re-established. I do not expect the stability that has existed since the second World War to last indefinitely; in fact, things might parallel the period between 1750-1850.

Having some gimped heads of state who let the "ministers" do their thing is not that harmful compared to the alternatives. Somebody is going to be the head of state and be compensated for it; the Danes don't get paid as extravagantly as their British counterparts but still shrunk their operation(Joachim's, the spare's, grandkids no longer have royal titles or benefits). The "pay" is good but the job is often so bad many would not want to enter that life.

Technology simply helps humans achieve a desired goal; the tech is blind to what goal the user actually intends to achieve. If there is a dispute....it becomes a human-on-human battle...often through use of the same tech. Maybe it's through the "press", video, guns, protest, etc. But just because someone uses tech, doesn't indicate reliably which side someone is on.

While communication tech has improved greatly in speed and amount of content in said communications, you really can't say the role has changed from the days of horses and letter writing. A message is being sent. What message...that depends.

Totalitarians regimes can also use technology quite effectively and in a nosy, oppressive fashion. Communist China or similar places keeps tabs on everything you do and since the world is internet reliant, you have to open up your doors if you reside over there to get things done.

Weapons of war are one of the pieces of tech keeping the modern western world in a stable condition; but others can make their own weapons too and be utterly antagonistic to the West. The aim is the same as it was when humans only had stone to kill things with. Control over another and control over resources.
 

cytg111

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We have a total budget of excess 1B dkk, and some of this go to different cultural activities like national broadcast service, CHURCHES, museums, arts etc. I think the monarchy of Denmark as part of this cultural package. One of the longest running reality shows.
The thing is, whether we like it or not, humanity is also about other things than rationality.
Obviously if I had to start a new state, I wouldn't choose monarchy, but I think it is part of our history and culture.
1. You gonna confuse the shit out these people with our definition of billion .
2. Dont get me started on the church!!!
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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1. You gonna confuse the shit out these people with our definition of billion .
2. Dont get me started on the church!!!
1. Hehe
2. As I've grown older, I've come to the conclusion if the majority of the people want to spend money on something relatively innocent as the Danish public church and the monarchy, then there are larger and more important battles to fight. As long as I don't have to pay tax church tax, I can find peace with it apparently is worth something to many, and it doesn't hinder my freedom to do something else.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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1. Hehe
2. As I've grown older, I've come to the conclusion if the majority of the people want to spend money on something relatively innocent as the Danish public church and the monarchy, then there are larger and more important battles to fight. As long as I don't have to pay tax church tax, I can find peace with it apparently is worth something to many, and it doesn't hinder my freedom to do something else.
Well, you cant opt out of all of it unfortunately. And then, why just Christianity? Tons of other cults, erh I mean religions, that is equally deserving of our tax payer money. And by equally I mean zero equals zero.
 

biostud

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Same reason as the m
Well, you cant opt out of all of it unfortunately. And then, why just Christianity? Tons of other cults, erh I mean religions, that is equally deserving of our tax payer money. And by equally I mean zero equals zero.
Same reason as the monarchy, it is our history and prevalent culture. AFAIK the church tax is for the salaries of the employees, while everyone pays for the upkeep of the buildings.
 

KompuKare

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A monarchy thread...

Pity that I have found something more interesting to do like... watch grass grow in the middle of winter!
 

cytg111

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Same reason as the m

Same reason as the monarchy, it is our history and prevalent culture. AFAIK the church tax is for the salaries of the employees, while everyone pays for the upkeep of the buildings.
Yea I get it. Still not a fan.
 
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