Denny’s shutters only location in Oakland California..violence and crime overwhelming.

IGBT

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Denny’s shutters only location in Oakland after more than 54 years due to high crime..“However, the safety and well-being of Denny’s team members and value guests is our top priority,” the company said. “Weighing those factors, the decision has been made to close this location.”
 

K1052

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So while I'm not going to pretend Oakland doesn't and has not historically had a crime issue there is a particular problem with this stretch of Hegenberger. A lot of clueless and distracted people who are not from the area (due to airport proximity) combined with easy access to the highway has fostered a real problem. Why the city and more importantly the police have not treated the issue seriously are good questions for them.
 

KB

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They need to remake this movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/ but call it "Escape from Oakland"
In-N-Out just closed too. Everyone is leaving.

Last time I was in Oakland there was a lot of homelessness. it looked depressing.
 

Muse

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Denny’s shutters only location in Oakland after more than 54 years due to high crime..“However, the safety and well-being of Denny’s team members and value guests is our top priority,” the company said. “Weighing those factors, the decision has been made to close this location.”
I had carpal tunnel surgery at Kaiser Permanente's Oakland hospital 10 days ago. Will get stitches out in 5 days. Meantime, I saw on the news a few days ago that Kaiser Permanente is advising Oakland staff to remain indoors for lunch hours due to concerns for their safety. I did notice in peaking through the curtains of my cubicle in the surgery staging area pre-op that most of the staff were exhibiting facial expressions I can best describe as disturbed.
 

Muse

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So while I'm not going to pretend Oakland doesn't and has not historically had a crime issue there is a particular problem with this stretch of Hegenberger. A lot of clueless and distracted people who are not from the area (due to airport proximity) combined with easy access to the highway has fostered a real problem. Why the city and more importantly the police have not treated the issue seriously are good questions for them.
Oakland government has been in turmoil for several years now. Many residents have been urging the mayor to declare a state of emergency due to recently exacerbating crime but she has been resisting. There is a campaign to recall her. The campaign to recall the D.A. is much further along. I myself couldn't wait to sign its petition. It's the first time I've signed such a thing. However, this D.A. is some kind of horrible.
 
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nakedfrog

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So while I'm not going to pretend Oakland doesn't and has not historically had a crime issue there is a particular problem with this stretch of Hegenberger. A lot of clueless and distracted people who are not from the area (due to airport proximity) combined with easy access to the highway has fostered a real problem. Why the city and more importantly the police have not treated the issue seriously are good questions for them.
Police: "I don't know, guys, this sounds like it could be dangerous. I'm only 6,207 days from retirement, you know."
 
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manly

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So while I'm not going to pretend Oakland doesn't and has not historically had a crime issue there is a particular problem with this stretch of Hegenberger. A lot of clueless and distracted people who are not from the area (due to airport proximity) combined with easy access to the highway has fostered a real problem. Why the city and more importantly the police have not treated the issue seriously are good questions for them.
It's definitely something about this area. Recent news was that In-N-Out Burger closed its location there, and it's the ONLY one they have closed in their ENTIRE HISTORY! It's kind of a running meme when people ask/wonder if In-N-Out (and also Micro Center) will expand to their locale. In-N-Out somehow pays their young staff decent wages, mints profit like crazy and still decided to close shop near an "international" airport.
 

MrSquished

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America will never properly address economic inequality, and in many cases, general systemic in justice both judicially, socially, educationally, and economically, which are all the underlying causes of crime. There will always be crime but until those things are addressed, the overall situation will not get better.
 

Dr. Detroit

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The flatlands of West Oakland are a fuckin wasteland!

I worked in downtown/Uptown Oakland for 8yrs and was on BART last week witnessing the despair along the elevated BART tracks.
 
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RPD

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America will never properly address economic inequality, and in many cases, general systemic in justice both judicially, socially, educationally, and economically, which are all the underlying causes of crime. There will always be crime but until those things are addressed, the overall situation will not get better.
Ah yes, most/all crime is due to being poor, thus all/most poor people must be criminals. Noted. Feel better about yourself having posted this and solved the worlds problems?
Crime in areas of CA has gotten out of control because the threat of repercussions has evaporated. Why do cops want to put themselves in harms way knowing whoever they arrest (again in these areas with high crime with such places like Walgreens, In-N-Out burger and this example thread) never see jail time?
 

Torn Mind

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America will never properly address economic inequality, and in many cases, general systemic in justice both judicially, socially, educationally, and economically, which are all the underlying causes of crime. There will always be crime but until those things are addressed, the overall situation will not get better.
Drug money is undisclosed income.

California should have cured the problems already without outside assistance. .
 

Torn Mind

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Stick to quarterback analysis. You are clueless.
Crime is a tactical operation. It's not a bunch of dumb and hungry Robin Hoods, but rather those already secretly well off and just wanting extra. To successfully commit the usual crimes, knowledge and understanding of the legal system(training passed down through the home by street smart parents), and practical knowledge of failure points in security are needed, both intellectually demanding and practical tasks. Then to nerf the public authorities, psychological operations are employed by the criminals on the most naive and impressionable segment of society.

(EBT is drug dealer currency)

I'm far more aware of the legal system than you. The states are sovereign in this country, and California is the wealthiest and most powerful of them all. Their real estate market shooting up, is unique to and is the result of that state's wealth of resources. The municipality is the one with the most direct control over what goes on in their local space.

I've been closer to drug dealers and their customers than your isolated self will ever be. They put on the right faces for the right situation. They know when to be threatening and when to tone things down.
 

MrSquished

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Crime is a tactical operation. It's not a bunch of dumb and hungry Robin Hoods, but rather those already secretly well off and just wanting extra. To successfully commit the usual crimes, knowledge and understanding of the legal system(training passed down through the home by street smart parents), and practical knowledge of failure points in security are needed, both intellectually demanding and practical tasks. Then to nerf the public authorities, psychological operations are employed by the criminals on the most naive and impressionable segment of society.

(EBT is drug dealer currency)

I'm far more aware of the legal system than you. The states are sovereign in this country, and California is the wealthiest and most powerful of them all. Their real estate market shooting up, is unique to and is the result of that state's wealth of resources. The municipality is the one with the most direct control over what goes on in their local space.

I've been closer to drug dealers and their customers than your isolated self will ever be. They put on the right faces for the right situation. They know when to be threatening and when to tone things down.

You should stick to sardines, mariah carey, and terrible quarterback analysis. That's your wheelhouse. On this and most other things, your ignorance is MAGA level astounding.

The fact you 'claim' you were close to drug dealers and are still this dumb, is impressive.

As far as being close to that world - that's the world I was literally in 28 years ago for 4-5 years. As in participating. Every day. On both sides of the equation.

Your grasp of national systemic injustices and wealth inequality and social inequality and also the urban vs rural applications of this is non-existent. You think localities exist in vacuums, and you think nationwide issues are only local, meanwhile the shitty quality of policing is quite nationwide as well. You have zero inkling of the evolution of urban areas via racism, white flight, and insane inequalities.
 

dank69

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Ah yes, most/all crime is due to being poor, thus all/most poor people must be criminals. Noted. Feel better about yourself having posted this and solved the worlds problems?
Crime in areas of CA has gotten out of control because the threat of repercussions has evaporated. Why do cops want to put themselves in harms way knowing whoever they arrest (again in these areas with high crime with such places like Walgreens, In-N-Out burger and this example thread) never see jail time?
Say it with me now: fuck the police. If your life depends on the police, the chances are you are proper fucked. Chances are also high that they will make any situation worse. Y'all need to get your heads out of your asses right quick.

You fix crime by fixing the underlying social issues that cause crime to be attractive. People who have a stable life typically avoid resorting to criminal activity because they have too much to lose.
 

IGBT

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The Marxist Democrat "experiment" in Oakland and similar has failed miserably...everybody knows this. Trying it yet again with a different definition of "success" (A Marxist trick) is also doomed to failure.
 
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dank69

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The Marxist Democrat "experiment" in Oakland and similar has failed miserably...everybody knows this. Trying it yet again with a different definition of "success" (A Marxist trick) is also doomed to failure.
If you want to shit nonsense all over the walls you should take it to P&N.
 

RPD

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Say it with me now: fuck the police. If your life depends on the police, the chances are you are proper fucked. Chances are also high that they will make any situation worse. Y'all need to get your heads out of your asses right quick.

You fix crime by fixing the underlying social issues that cause crime to be attractive. People who have a stable life typically avoid resorting to criminal activity because they have too much to lose.
No thanks. I've had numerous encounters over my life span with police, none were "bad". Worse were getting stupid speeding tickets.
 
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dank69

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No thanks. I've had numerous encounters over my life span with police, none were "bad". Worse were getting stupid speeding tickets.
Yeah there are definitely advantages to being white when it comes to police interaction, but that doesn't mean it is always the case.
 

RPD

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Yeah there are definitely advantages to being white when it comes to police interaction, but that doesn't mean it is always the case.
Hey playing the assumption game huh?
 
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