Denny's to impose 5% Obamacare surcharge

[techs]

I think that a single mom working as a waitress is going to have problems afford child care, food, and housing.

Being a no-skill single mother is pretty much incompatible with reality.

No, what is incompatible with reality is not knowing that there are a very large number of no-skill single mothers working as waitresses.

 

[CycloWizard]

Actually all forms of taxes not including state sales taxes are baked right into the price.

So why aren't state sales taxes included in the price? Why shouldn't a company itemize all of the added costs of taxes and regulations for their customers to see? I think maybe then we could have a sanity check and people would realize the costs involved with letting government run the show. Those of us who work in highly regulated industries are already well aware.

 

[spidey07]

Great, I've been wasting my time talking to someone who hasn't graduated from middle school?

Shame on me for not recognizing this.

I'm 41 with a highly successful career. The wife and I both pay for our own insurance, and outside that purchase supplemental insurance.

Nothing is stopping anybody from getting healthcare in this country.

 

[spidey07]

No, what is incompatible with reality is not knowing that there are a very large number of no-skill single mothers working as waitresses.

And they qualify for MEDICAID and pay ZERO for any healthcare costs.

THe stupidity in this thread is astounding, but then again, the mind of the liberal is fucking retarded. A damn mental disorder.

We all told you what the affects of obamacare would be, so don't complain when it happens as predicted.

 

[Nemesis 1]

If this means less people will eat the shit that Denny's serves, then good.

Its going to infect everyone . Thats America . One does it than 2 . Until all do it. Its called greed. I sure am glad i AM OLD, This America is not my america . Your welcome to it. But enter my space and things will not go well. The only people who really call SS a entitlement are those who don't work . Its to make them feel better about their role on welfare/Food stamps. Ya see welfare types extend to generations . SS is a paid by employee and employer benefit. The mistake was allowing the federal gooberment manage that money , They borrowed 7 trillion from SS and now won't pay it back . Freaken demwits

 

[Ausm]

Because Denny's are jerk-offs.

BTW - Did they include a surcharge for the Iraq war??

How about a surcharge for Bush tax cuts?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

How quickly people forget. In 1994, Denny's agreed to pay $ 54 million as settlement of a class action suit in which customers alleged widespread racial discrimination. Complainants in the class included a Federal judge and black Secret Service agents. The settlement came after a juries had made sizeable awards to several individual families.

14 years later, management apparently plans to recoup those old losses by blaming the new healthcare plan.

I would think this move opens them up to potentially more litigation if it comes out that less than this 5% actually goes to increased healthcare coverage for their employees.

 

[Ausm]

Because Denny's isn't raising the prices by 5% - the legislation is. It's no different than any other form of tax and taxes are generally not included in the menu price.

Can you show the Data on this?

 

[Blackjack200]

So why aren't state sales taxes included in the price? Why shouldn't a company itemize all of the added costs of taxes and regulations for their customers to see? I think maybe then we could have a sanity check and people would realize the costs involved with letting government run the show. Those of us who work in highly regulated industries are already well aware.

Because it's the law? WTF? Yeah, go ahead, itemize out ever single cost of doing business. Good luck with that.

Goddamn, I just wish people would get down off their crosses already, it's absolutely sickening.

 

[hal2kilo]

Did the government increase their taxes/costs for the Iraq war?

No, but you see, that's one of the major reasons the deficit under Obama has grown so big. Were actually paying for the wars we fight now.

What a concept.

 

[spidey07]

How about a surcharge for Bush tax cuts?

Tax cuts aren't a cost. Unless you believe people's money was never theirs to begin with.

 

[GoPackGo]

Denny's Health Care Plan:

http://firstaid.about.com/od/firstaidkits/ig/First-Aid-Kit-Gallery/Cheap-First-Aid-Kit.htm

 

[techs]

Denny's Health Care Plan:

http://firstaid.about.com/od/firstaidkits/ig/First-Aid-Kit-Gallery/Cheap-First-Aid-Kit.htm

"Don't get sick or your fired"
Works for Dennys!

btw this is just one Dennys franchisee, if I read it correctly. As long as the company comes out and disowns him I won't hold Dennys responsible.
Of course, if they waffle on it, I won't ever eat there again.

 

[Jeff7]

Hey, might as well.

Shipping companies started tacking on a fuel surcharge sometime in the past 10 years, presumably because fuel was $0.00 before then.
Some manufacturers started adding an electricity surcharge to invoices, again, presumably because electricity was $0.00/MWh not too long ago.
And yes, even health insurance was entirely expense-free before Obama took office.



:hmm:
Or maybe I'm thinking of a different Universe I visited recently.


And if they'd like, they could go further with it, and line-item everything. Restroom surcharge. Waitstaff break time surcharge. Plumbing surcharge. Real estate tax surcharge. Lighting surcharge. Table-cleaning surcharge. Dishwashing surcharge. Surcharge to pay for extremely long paper receipts.

 

[Ausm]

Denny's Health Care Plan:

http://firstaid.about.com/od/firstaidkits/ig/First-Aid-Kit-Gallery/Cheap-First-Aid-Kit.htm

That looks like a Rethuglicant Utopia! Just as long as THEY don't work there.

 

[CycloWizard]

Because it's the law? WTF? Yeah, go ahead, itemize out ever single cost of doing business. Good luck with that.

Goddamn, I just wish people would get down off their crosses already, it's absolutely sickening.

We can't have people like you learning the true price of your demands on society now, can we? You just want to impose your will and proceed on your way in ignorance. Heaven forbid you be confronted with the facts!

 

[spidey07]

Where was the liberal outrage when San Franscisco restaurants did this!!!???

 

[Athena]

Because Denny's isn't raising the prices by 5% - the legislation is. It's no different than any other form of tax and taxes are generally not included in the menu price.

Sure they are -- all cosst of doing business is built into every good and service sold. And of course health coverage is treated as a tax deductible expense so the net cost to employers won't affect the bottom line much.

In any case, Denny's and the rest of corporate America had a choice: to engage in substantive discussion about alternatives. Escalating health costs have been a drag on the economy for a long time and companies were quietly (some not so quietly) shrinking their health coverage for over a decade befoe Obama was elected.

I remember being quite hopeful when I read this article in 2007 New Urgency in Debating Health Care; and dismayed by the non-solution we ended up with. Corporations had their chance to get engaged in the solution and declined to do so.

 

[spidey07]

A business's job is to make money, not provide health insurance to it's workers. When will the liberal get this through their thick skull?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Because Denny's are jerk-offs.

BTW - Did they include a surcharge for the Iraq war??

Like mcDonalds and all other businessses care you simplely made the poor more more. It going to be hard to collect that $1900 penelity for the gooberment . As the poor who do not pay the penility gives all others away out of paying . Either all pay or none pay . This the courts will decide . The courts today being a joke . I know which way that will go . But I look more to the efffect it will have between low class and middle class. I know we will pay the penelity. Its cheaper than the $3500 cost of obummer care.

 

[Darwin333]

Because they do that quarterly anyways, now they can just rip off the consumer another way whilst sticking it to their employees yet again. Yay corporate America, the biggest fail in modern history.

How exactly are they "ripping off the consumer" and "sticking it to their employees"? Is there a lack of shitty restaurants with shitty food making them a monopoly that I was unaware of?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Where was the liberal outrage when San Franscisco restaurants did this!!!???

Crony capitalist Pelosi gave waivers to just the upscale restaurants in SF...looks like all the rest are SOL and will need to increase prices in order to cover expenses. No liberal outrage there...what gives?

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/05/18/pelosi-district-gives-20-percent-of-obamacare-waiver/

 

[werepossum]

Absolutely, a business must do what it needs to do to keep the doors open, but please don't be an asshat about it by making a political statement out of your change in costs.

However, I wonder how many of these companies are just belly-aching and using the ACA as an excuse to jack up their overall profit. If the cost of providing healthcare for all your employees is that bad, shouldn't we be hearing of the economic apocalypse from all restaurant chains out there who employ minimum wage workers?

The ACA isn't going to jack up their profits. If Denny's (or any other chain) thought they could make more profit with higher prices, they'd have done it. That is capitalism, and unless you disagree that all of us are smarter than some of us when making decisions for all of us, it's the best system in the world.

There will be no economic apocalypse because all these restaurants are facing the same artificial new expense - well, except for those who can get waivers. What you'll see is a very slight decline in overall market coupled with more efficient chains becoming more profitable, less efficient chains becoming less profitable, and the least efficient going out of business. To the extent that some chains have the political connections to get waivers, those chains will prosper at the expense of others, but even that is no more than a temporary advantage. If servers and cooks can get equal pay and better benefits at chains without waivers, then the better servers and cooks will migrate away from the chains getting waivers. For fast food, this may even apply to managers - I'm not sure how many chains are currently providing less insurance coverage than Obamacare mandates - and otherwise probably breaks down, since most employees are probably too transient and unskilled to compete among employers. And it's certainly thrown off by our shitty economy, where people are more likely to keep a job in hand rather than pursue a possibly better one in the bush. But in general, for chains like Denny's that employ servers and cooks with some measure of skills, obtaining permission to provide lower benefits than your competitors will eventually lead to losing your better employees. Still worth it in the short term, obviously, as long as the economy stays bad.

 

[Pens1566]

Absolutely she can, she would be on medicaid. The state would provide her healthcare for her and children.

Since ACA's inception healthcare costs have risen dramatically, therefore making it LESS affordable.

They've risen just as much as they did before it passed. Asshat.

 

[Darwin333]

I would call healthcare for workers humane

I would call housing, water, electricity, food, cable TV, internet, and cell phones for workers humane too but I don't think that an employer should be forced to provide those things. It is up to the employee to decide what they wish to use the money they make on.