Denny's to impose 5% Obamacare surcharge

[sigurros81]

There not bitter They just going to charge you mmore for services or products because you now have obummer care and can afford to spend that money you normally need for rubbers on other products . Its great when things work as it should . You wanted it . You got it . Shout up already . You want a piece of the upper class . They own everthing . You take money from them they raise pricies . There is nothing anyone can do about it. poor stupid demwits

So you're saying the rich is jacking up costs as a knee-jerk reaction because they want to stay rich. What else is new?

 

[Athena]

How quickly people forget. In 1994, Denny's agreed to pay $ 54 million as settlement of a class action suit in which customers alleged widespread racial discrimination. Complainants in the class included a Federal judge and black Secret Service agents. The settlement came after a juries had made sizeable awards to several individual families.

14 years later, management apparently plans to recoup those old losses by blaming the new healthcare plan.

 

[spidey07]

I would call healthcare for workers humane

Nothing is stopping anybody from getting healthcare. Employers do NOT provide healthcare for christ sake!

 

[spidey07]

So you're saying the rich is jacking up costs as a knee-jerk reaction because they want to stay rich. What else is new?

The business of business is to make money. When you raise their operating costs, they are going to raise their prices. It's as simple as that.

 

[sigurros81]

Nothing is stopping anybody from getting healthcare. Employers do NOT provide healthcare for christ sake!

Which rock did you just crawl from.

 

[spidey07]

Which rock did you just crawl from.

Explain to me how an employer provides healthcare? Explain to me how an employer can prevent a worker from getting healthcare or purchasing healthcare insurance?

Mind of the liberal in action here folks...

 

[Pens1566]

Explain to me how an employer provides healthcare? Explain to me how an employer can prevent a worker from getting healthcare or purchasing healthcare insurance?

Mind of the liberal in action here folks...

"November is coming" ... lol

 

[sigurros81]

Explain to me how an employer provides healthcare? Explain to me how an employer can prevent a worker from getting healthcare or purchasing healthcare insurance?

Mind of the liberal in action here folks...

You think a single mom working as a waitress can afford healthcare? Sound like you've missed every single debate and discussion on the ACA in the past year. Whether you or I disagree or agree with it, the fact you asked two stupid questions demonstrate your lack of understanding of the rationale behind the ACA.

You failed to recognize the fundamental motivation, hotly debatable and contested, behind the ACA is to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans, especially to those who cannot afford it under their income. If you're going to add something to the discussion, at least ask an intelligent question.

 

[Hugo Drax]

An increase in prices is no light change for a restaurant chain and if others have to increase their prices 5% i have a hard time believing Denny's will not do the same. I see them raising prices and adding the 5% obamacare fee.

Thank you airline industry for showing we will still use your business no matter how many fees you charge us.

Free market economy, if they increase costs 5% then someone else could keep prices the same and advertise "We wont charge you an Obamacare fee like Dennys"

Why would you insult your customers/raise prices 5% and expect to profit as if they existed in a vacuum.

They should just write "5% ****** tax" on the door.

 

[werepossum]

Snarkiness alert! You have been warned, so proceed at your own risk.

I have no problem with Denny's adding an Obamacare surcharge. When restaurants incur new costs, they raise prices, as they should. The purpose of a business is to make money and in doing so raise society's collective wealth, not to provide people with jobs or free health care. They are trying to sell you a product, not become their employees' surrogate parents. They should not however be total dicks about it and suggest the customer take that out of the server's tip.

Either way, personally I'm not giving my hard-earned money to a company that repeatedly refused to serve appropriately dressed black people far after the death of Jim Crow laws, so I don't give a flying weasel fuck how they break down their prices. Waffle House and Krystal are also open late and haven't been ass hats.

 

[CitizenKain]

If this means less people will eat the shit that Denny's serves, then good.

 

[diesbudt]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/john-metz-hurricane-grill-wings-dennys_n_2122412.html



why not just increase menu prices by 5%? :\

To make a point.

Any company can add X% in the background for any number of reasons (and some do)

However, if you have to add some % for something your against? of course you are going to say WHY you are raising the prices.

Its typical mind games.

 

[Athena]

Nothing is stopping anybody from getting healthcare. Employers do NOT provide healthcare for christ sake!

You're right. Employers just pay for other people to provide care to their employers.

As I repeatedly said during the faux-reform discussions: there is no automatic equivalence between insurance and coverage or coverage and care. We design systems by looking at the desired outcome and working backwards then figure out how to finance whatever it is that needs to be done.

In this country, we just talk about paying providers whatever they want and hope that will achieve a socially valuable objective. It's not going to work but that was the "free market" solution proposed by the Heritage Foundation.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Waffle House and Krystal are also open late and haven't been ass hats.

And have better food. Chicken and egg plate, up, with double hashbrowns, cooked light. mmmmmmm, the Waffle.

 

[techs]

The restaurant industry workers are probably the biggest government aid receivers in the country.
Due to thier low salaries many are on food stamps. Also many qualify for Medicaid and those who don't use Emergency Rooms and don't pay.

So, Dennys workers are already being subsidized.

Of course, the food Dennys buys is subsidized by government farm programs. Even the farmers and scientists who grow and develop the food are educated in government paid for schools with government aid.

So, this Dennys owner should stfu. Or he could just put the amount the government is subsidizing each item right on the menu.

 

[CitizenKain]

You think a single mom working as a waitress can afford healthcare? Sound like you've missed every single debate and discussion on the ACA in the past year. Whether you or I disagree or agree with it, the fact you asked two stupid questions demonstrate your lack of understanding of the rationale behind the ACA.

You failed to recognize the fundamental motivation, hotly debatable and contested, behind the ACA is to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans, especially to those who cannot afford it under their income. If you're going to add something to the discussion, at least ask an intelligent question.

You must have missed spidey's previous posts. He gets free healthcare by mooching off his family.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Because they do that quarterly anyways, now they can just rip off the consumer another way whilst sticking it to their employees yet again. Yay corporate America, the biggest fail in modern history.

NO that honor belongs to demwit party of 2008 2012. The last American president destroyed America . To govern as the poor would govern is hopeless . They have no self respect or motivations . They are dangerious out of step neanderthals. That will bring down society . ALL most all men have compasion. But like all things that compasion must be tempered . Why should people have a good life if they don't work for it , Why should my good fortune benefit others outside my family . Why do I even care about race. Were I live its a none issue. We have few blacks many hispanics and Viet. I personnally love working with asians , They hard workers and smart , hispanic women are really hard workers . Not so much the men . and the blacks I have worked with were horriable and I refuse to work with them . These blacks were not American blacks however . The american blacks I know are OK . Some really great some really bad , same as all races ./

 

[sigurros81]

Snarkiness alert! You have been warned, so proceed at your own risk.

I have no problem with Denny's adding an Obamacare surcharge. When restaurants incur new costs, they raise prices, as they should. The purpose of a business is to make money and in doing so raise society's collective wealth, not to provide people with jobs or free health care. They are trying to sell you a product, not become their employees' surrogate parents. They should not however be total dicks about it and suggest the customer take that out of the server's tip.

Either way, personally I'm not giving my hard-earned money to a company that repeatedly refused to serve appropriately dressed black people far after the death of Jim Crow laws, so I don't give a flying weasel fuck how they break down their prices. Waffle House and Krystal are also open late and haven't been ass hats.

Absolutely, a business must do what it needs to do to keep the doors open, but please don't be an asshat about it by making a political statement out of your change in costs.

However, I wonder how many of these companies are just belly-aching and using the ACA as an excuse to jack up their overall profit. If the cost of providing healthcare for all your employees is that bad, shouldn't we be hearing of the economic apocalypse from all restaurant chains out there who employ minimum wage workers?

 

[nehalem256]

You think a single mom working as a waitress can afford healthcare? Sound like you've missed every single debate and discussion on the ACA in the past year. Whether you or I disagree or agree with it, the fact you asked two stupid questions demonstrate your lack of understanding of the rationale behind the ACA.

You failed to recognize the fundamental motivation, hotly debatable and contested, behind the ACA is to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans, especially to those who cannot afford it under their income. If you're going to add something to the discussion, at least ask an intelligent question.

I think that a single mom working as a waitress is going to have problems afford child care, food, and housing.

Being a no-skill single mother is pretty much incompatible with reality.

 

[Hugo Drax]

To make a point.

Any company can add X% in the background for any number of reasons (and some do)

However, if you have to add some % for something your against? of course you are going to say WHY you are raising the prices.

Its typical mind games.

How does making this point help Denny's make more money? All they will do is piss off a segment of customers who would have continued to conduct business with them even if prices went up 5% but now will not give them the business to make a point themselves.


Stupid and unprofessional. If I was a shareholder I would be pissed as hell and be making some nasty calls.

 

[CycloWizard]

Because Denny's isn't raising the prices by 5% - the legislation is. It's no different than any other form of tax and taxes are generally not included in the menu price.

 

[sigurros81]

You must have missed spidey's previous posts. He gets free healthcare by mooching off his family.

Great, I've been wasting my time talking to someone who hasn't graduated from middle school?

Shame on me for not recognizing this.

 

[Blackjack200]

The business of business is to make money. When you raise their operating costs, they are going to raise their prices. It's as simple as that.

Why don't they include fuel surcharges, executive compensation surcharges, heck, any price increase anywhere, just include another surcharge?

Oh, right, because they hate their workers.

 

[Blackjack200]

Because Denny's isn't raising the prices by 5% - the legislation is. It's no different than any other form of tax and taxes are generally not included in the menu price.

Actually all forms of taxes not including state sales taxes are baked right into the price.

 

[spidey07]

You think a single mom working as a waitress can afford healthcare? Sound like you've missed every single debate and discussion on the ACA in the past year. Whether you or I disagree or agree with it, the fact you asked two stupid questions demonstrate your lack of understanding of the rationale behind the ACA.

You failed to recognize the fundamental motivation, hotly debatable and contested, behind the ACA is to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans, especially to those who cannot afford it under their income. If you're going to add something to the discussion, at least ask an intelligent question.

Absolutely she can, she would be on medicaid. The state would provide her healthcare for her and children.

Since ACA's inception healthcare costs have risen dramatically, therefore making it LESS affordable.