denon 3312 for $549

Termie

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This ^.

My Denon 4306, an early hdmi receiver, caused me unending hdmi problems, to the point where I spent hundreds on splitters and other cables to avoid using its hdmi ports.

Judging from reviews on amazon and Crutchfield, this issue is not fully resolved.

IMO, Denon is a shell of its former self.
 
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brownstone

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Excellent deal. I believe that Amazon is an authorized dealer so you should get the full 3 year warranty on the product.
 

Rio Rebel

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Wonderful receiver. I can't believe someone on Amazon gave it two stars because he tried to upgrade the firmware on a wireless connection and blamed Denon when the connection failed.
 

Basilisk

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Sigh. Once again, going bankrupt saving money on deals. 'Bought in, so thanks, I think.

This unit has so many features it will take a month to figure out which ones don't really work in the manner I'm expecting, but... at worst it's a step towards 3D in my house.

I really like that it can drive two HDMI TV's, has pre-amp outputs for Zones 2 and 3, and that Denon keeps releasing firmware updates.
 

HeianJodan

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Great deal for a good receiver.

(not to thread-crap) but be cautious on Denon and make sure you get a warranty. I have had two different receivers fail due to poorly-engineered HDMI boards. In this day in age, HDMI is pretty important and they have been the Achilles heel for Denon for a while. Make sure you get a warranty!

I second the note about HDMI support with some Denon receivers. I have one myself and at least once a week have to re-insert an HDMI in the receiver due to a loss of audio.
 

vshah

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my dad's had a 4306 and a 4311 and I have a 1610, no hdmi issues to speak of. nice deal!
 

Basilisk

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... In this day in age, HDMI is pretty important and they have been the Achilles heel for Denon for a while.
Gulp... hope they've fixed their design!

Onkyo had a plague of problems with HDMI switching for awhile: cap's on their HDMI daughter-boards weren't up to the task, probably failing from heat. At least Onkyo seems to have solved that... as I did by soldering in replacement cap's on my TX-SR606. 'Wouldn't be considering replacing it save for the lack of 3D HDMI (1.4A) switching on my 606.
 

amanoai

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Gulp... hope they've fixed their design!

Onkyo had a plague of problems with HDMI switching for awhile: cap's on their HDMI daughter-boards weren't up to the task, probably failing from heat. At least Onkyo seems to have solved that... as I did by soldering in replacement cap's on my TX-SR606. 'Wouldn't be considering replacing it save for the lack of 3D HDMI (1.4A) switching on my 606.

I was going to mention Onkyo. I own one that supposedly had/has hdmi issues, but mine is a refurb so maybe it was fixed prior to me owning it.

I had owned a Denon pre-hdmi and while it was a low/mid end model, I loved that receiver, sold it when I upgraded to my current Onkyo.
 

Slimline

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That would have been a fantastic deal. I just wanted to chime in, I own a Denon AVR-991 (a lesser 3311) and have had no hdmi issues with many different sources and cheap ass cables. My only issue with the reciever is it refuses to upgrade firmware from my isp modem. I have to ICS my phone internet through my laptop to update. (Minor pita for a great reciever)
 

kmmatney

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This ^.

My Denon 4306, an early hdmi receiver, caused me unending hdmi problems, to the point where I spent hundreds on splitters and other cables to avoid using its hdmi ports.

Judging from reviews on amazon and Crutchfield, this issue is not fully resolved.

IMO, Denon is a shell of its former self.

I'm still using my Kenwood Receiver I bought in college in 1989 - everything works perfectly. One question - why do you need HDMI ports on a receiver? I have HD DirectTV, Blu-ray player, a WD Live player and a Wii and all hooked to the TV by HDMI or component cables. I use the TV input to switch between devices, and just have the TV sound going out to the receiver. Most TVs have digital audio out, so the sounds quality should be good, so I'm wondering why even bother with HDMI ports on the receiver?
 

Apex

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I'm still using my Kenwood Receiver I bought in college in 1989 - everything works perfectly. One question - why do you need HDMI ports on a receiver? I have HD DirectTV, Blu-ray player, a WD Live player and a Wii and all hooked to the TV by HDMI or component cables. I use the TV input to switch between devices, and just have the TV sound going out to the receiver. Most TVs have digital audio out, so the sounds quality should be good, so I'm wondering why even bother with HDMI ports on the receiver?

S/PDIF and Coax digital out are low bandwidth, 5.1 or lower capable only.

So lots of higher bandwidth Blu-ray audio formats like Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master, Linear PCM, 7.1 sound cannot be passed with them.

Older Blu-ray players with 7.1 analog out may be a reasonable band-aid solution for receivers without HDMI, but these days, it's unnecessary on new equipment.
 
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That is a screaming deal. Actually it's still a great deal at ~$700. I have used an AVR-3808ci for about 4 1/2 years and been very happy with it. It would be nice to have Airplay and 3D capability . . .
 
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