Denver Broncos Super Bowl XLVII Champions!

[Deeko]

It was my preseason pick....

 

[iRONic]

Other teams consider the year a success when the make the playoffs. The Pats don't consider the year a success unles they WIN the Super Bowl.

FTFY

But he's not playing indoors in the Noise Dome anymore either.

Nope, he's playing a mile up in some pretty thin air. It does give them a slight advantage.

Manning with a competent defense is pretty terrifying considering what he was able to do in the past without one.

Exactly!

 

[Deeko]

Despite being to the playoffs 10 times before this year, Manning has only been to the Super Bowl twice (winning one, losing one)

Tom Brady, correct me if I'm wrong, has been in the playoffs 10 times. And Brady has been to the Super Bowl 5 times winning 3 times.

Hmmm. Would it be fair to say Manning tends to choke in the playoffs?

Lets look at more recent history, since no one really cares anymore what happened a decade ago when the Patriots had the best scoring defense in the NFL.

Since 2006, Brady is 7-5 in the playoffs, including two one-and-dones and two Superbowl losses, and a loss head to head to Manning, who is 6-4 in the playoffs in the same span, including two one-and-dones and a Superbowl victory.

So if you're taking into account more recent history, the odds are much more even, if not slightly in Peyton's favor.

 

[OutHouse]

anybody else notice how loud Manning is? i hear him say HURRY HURRY with every snap, but it only seems to be home games that he does this.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

the crowd isnt going to be quiet for him when hes on the road...

 

[vi edit]

Lets look at more recent history, since no one really cares anymore what happened a decade ago when the Patriots had the best scoring defense in the NFL. Since 2006, Brady is 7-5 in the playoffs, including two one-and-dones and two Superbowl losses, and a loss head to head to Manning, who is 6-4 in the playoffs in the same span, including two one-and-dones and a Superbowl victory. So if you're taking into account more recent history, the odds are much more even, if not slightly in Peyton's favor.

Thank you for taking the time to post that. I was going to the same thing but was lazy. Brady hasn't exactly been a stud the last 5-7 years in the playoffs. He looked like hammered dogshit a couple years ago against the Ravens in that first round game. And it probably haunts his dreams that little Dopey Manning has bumped him twice now for the Lombardi.

 

[diesbudt]

HeHe. Maybe the Broncos could make a quick trade for the brother who doesn't choke?

Other teams consider the year a success when the make the playoffs. The Pats don't consider the year a success unles they make the Super Bowl.

That could be genius...

Peyton gets them to the playoffs.
Eli gets them through the post season.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

HeHe. Maybe the Broncos could make a quick trade for the brother who doesn't choke?

Other teams consider the year a success when the make the playoffs. The Pats don't consider the year a success unles they make the Super Bowl.

Tom Brady chokes against the Giants. I bet he is relieved to see them gone.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

He faced NE a lot of those times... so, hard to say he choked when he was playing the best football team in a decade.

But...but...Manning choked! Even though the Patriots were a better team!

No mention of the 2006 AFC Championship choke job by the Patriots, conveniently (cue "It was Reche Caldwell's fault!" whining from Pats fans). What's worse -- to go in and lose a game right from the start (like the Colts going to Foxboro) or to be up 18 points late in the first half and then get steamrolled in the second half?

 

[techs]

Tom Brady chokes against the Giants. I bet he is relieved to see them gone.

Three out of five Super Bowl wins? I bet every team would die for that kind of choking.

 

[diesbudt]

the crowd isnt going to be quiet for him when hes on the road...

So you mean the super bowl?

They have home field advantage until then.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Three out of five Super Bowl wins? I bet every team would die for that kind of choking.

0-2 in his last two, including one as a prohibitive favorite and the last as just a mere favorite. Of course, I won't give Brady the full credit for the wins or losses -- it is a team game and McGinest and Vinatieri were just as responsible for those wins as the Pats o-line and secondary (specifically Rodney Harrison in SB42) were for those losses.

 

[techs]

I bet Rex Ryan would give his big toe to get to even one Super Bowl

 

[Capt Caveman]

But...but...Manning choked! Even though the Patriots were a better team!

No mention of the 2006 AFC Championship choke job by the Patriots, conveniently (cue "It was Reche Caldwell's fault!" whining from Pats fans). What's worse -- to go in and lose a game right from the start (like the Colts going to Foxboro) or to be up 18 points late in the first half and then get steamrolled in the second half?

Quoted for stupidity. Better to be in the game then not at all.

 

[diesbudt]

As long as it is not against the packers I would not mind Denver winning the super bowl.

Only because I believe John Fox has always been a good coach (not the best, ill give you that) but underrated, and in Carolina with the crap talent he had year after year, finally has a shot to go all the way.

 

[Deeko]

I bet Rex Ryan would give his big toe to get to even one Super Bowl

Are you just spewing whatever comes to mind when people dare question the godliness of your savior Tommy? What does Rex Ryan have anything to do with this thread?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

However, the odds are the Skins fans will retire with their one, or none, wins in the playoffs and spend the rest of the offseason circle jerking any thread that suggests RG3 shouldn't already be in the HOF

LOL. :thumbsup:

 

[CPA]

Could happen...but damn, I hope not.

The only team I hate worse than the Denver Donkeys is the Oaktown Raiders.

You must be a Chorfs fan.

 

[Capt Caveman]

fwiw - I wish techs wasn't a NE fan. He makes the rest of us look bad.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Quoted for stupidity. Better to be in the game then not at all.

You're one of the idiots who seemed to solely blame Reche Caldwell for the 2006 loss and ignored the role the rest of the team (ie, the Pats defense) played. So forgive me if I discount your opinion.

 

[techs]

Thank you for taking the time to post that. I was going to the same thing but was lazy. Brady hasn't exactly been a stud the last 5-7 years in the playoffs. He looked like hammered dogshit a couple years ago against the Ravens in that first round game. And it probably haunts his dreams that little Dopey Manning has bumped him twice now for the Lombardi.

In the era of parity getting to the Super Bowl year after year like the Pats have is perhaps the greatest feat in the history of professional football.

Teams go from one win to playoffs like Indy and from .500 to the top seed in a year. Yet, year after year the Pats make the playoffs and get into the Super Bowl on average 50 percent of the time. And Brady and the Pats coming up a little short with the lowest draft picks, hardest schedule and the salary cap is still an astonishing feat.

 

[CPA]

I bet Rex Ryan would give his wife's big toe to get to even one Super Bowl

ftfy

 

[gorcorps]

the crowd isnt going to be quiet for him when hes on the road...

Good thing he has home field all the way up to the SB, and even that could be estimated at 50% the usual away noise.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You're one of the idiots who seemed to solely blame Reche Caldwell for the 2006 loss and ignored the role the rest of the team (ie, the Pats defense) played. So forgive me if I discount your opinion.

Idiot? LOL.

Yes, one catch that should have been made cost NE the game. Sure, you can bring up numerous other plays but if that one play was made, game over.

Let's hope Manning can bring his playoff record to .500 and we might have a NE and Bronco match-up.

 

[Deeko]

In the era of parity getting to the Super Bowl year after year like the Pats have is perhaps the greatest feat in the history of professional football.

Teams go from one win to playoffs like Indy and from .500 to the top seed in a year. Yet, year after year the Pats make the playoffs and get into the Super Bowl on average 50 percent of the time. And Brady and the Pats coming up a little short with the lowest draft picks, hardest schedule and the salary cap is still an astonishing feat.

"Hardest schedule" is a bit of a misnomer. Only two games a year are based on your previous year finish - 1/3 of your games are against your division, and while the AFC East isn't exactly the sewer, it's not a perennial powerhouse, either. For example, despite making it to the Superbowl in 2011, the Patriots' schedule was rated as the easiest in the NFL this past preseason: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56896/2012-nfl-strength-of-schedule.

And all of that is beside the point, which is that Tom Brady has not won a Superbowl in eight seasons, despite all of your bluster.