Depressing performance with new machine

[Balin le Savage]

Am I crazy for being so dissapointed? I upgraded to an FX-55, 6800GT, 2gigs of OCZ Platinum RAM, and a 74G Raptor, and I still can't run Doom3 at Ultra-Quality settings at 1600X1200 resolution, much less FarCry.
With the exception of SLI, I've got one of the best machines available today - and yet I can't play the latest games at the highest resolutions? That kind of sucks.

I would like to think my machine wasn't already so outdated before a newer chip even hit the market. This is supposed to last me at least 3-4 years.

 

[LeoMael]

Doesn't the Ultra setting require 512MB of video memory?

 

[nick1985]

send it to me

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Originally posted by: nick1985
send it to me

ill take it too,
but seriously can you really notice the difference between ultra and high? and also, what do you mean by "cant run". Is it a slideshow or does it not work?

(can't get much sympathy from a TI4200 user)

 

[Oreo]

Turn off AA.

 

[Mik3y]

it's entirely your video card for teh reason why it wont run at ultra qualtiy very well.

 

[Cassius105]

no card out at the moment can run doom3 on ultra quality since it requires 512MB of video memory

 

[charlie21]

It's not your machine, it's the fact that the game engines were designed to run best on hardware that doesn't even exist yet. These companies make their money licensing the game engine out. ID and Crytek have made a product that games will be designed around for years to come.

 

[imported_jzimo]

My friend runs doom 3 at ultra settings but he as a 6800 ultra and 3 gigs of ram.

 

[Zebo]

Somethings wrong. I run both games on a $800 setup 16x12 4x 4x with no slowdown
1. Make sure mem is 1t
2. fast writes enabled
3. video bios and bios uncached
4. Mem is set to at least 166 or 200


course my vid card is 450/1150 and processor 2650 but it's slower being skt 754 and half cache.

 

[Mrvile]

Balin why not OCing the card to Ultra? After turning off AA you could probably run it then.

Oh and by the way, did you ever get the BFG 6800GT OC? You asked me about how loud it was and I was going to tell you but I forgot your screen name. But anyway, I personally think it's kind of loud but you can always soften it using Expertool.

EDIT: Zebo, nice results, tell me more. I thought AGP Fast Writes sometimes made things choppy but it increases performance? Also, how do you uncache video bios and bios (?), and by setting mem to at least 166 or 200, do you mean RAM FSB? Finally, you're definately on water-cooling with both CPU and video card right?

 

[Zebo]

thought AGP Fast Writes sometimes made things choppy but it increases performance?

Some people have experianced this but mainly with Ati cards although some nvidia too just not as common. I never have and it's about 400 more pts in 3dmark05

Also, how do you uncache video bios and bios (?), and by setting mem to at least 166 or 200, do you mean RAM FSB?

In bios, depending on mobo there's option for cacheing bios whether flash, bios, video depending...disable it all as it hits performance a bit. Mem setting should with be 200 or auto (auto = 200) depending on mobo. if overclocking he may have to use the 166 setting which is a 5/6 divider.

 

[Balin le Savage]

I'l try to OC it. Especially since I bought an NVSilencer and some AS5 for that purpose.

I eventually went with an EVGA card, but I read that people have OCed it pretty well, at least to 400/1100, which is what I'm going for (but thanks for remembering my question )

On a side note - the 6800GT is HUGE. It totally cuts off the airflow in my case. I'll have to figure that out.

 

[Balin le Savage]

Makes sense. I suppose I can choose to be depressed or just get over it. Things aren't how they used to be I suppose.

 

[Balin le Savage]

I'm guessing maybe 12FPS. It's pretty choppy.

 

[Balin le Savage]

Ok I'll try it

 

[Balin le Savage]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Somethings wrong. I run both games on a $800 setup 16x12 4x 4x with no slowdown
1. Make sure mem is 1t
2. fast writes enabled
3. video bios and bios uncached
4. Mem is set to at least 166 or 200

I'll look for those options and try it out. Disable the mobo cache you say?

 

[Mrvile]

Zebo:

In my bios I saw 3 different caches. There was video cache (which I had off), external cache (which I turned off), and internal CPU cache (which when I turned off, windows loading was choppy and slow so I turned it back on). I should leave CPU cache on right?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Drivers
Drivers
Drivers
Drivers

Did I mention Drivers? It sounds like you're missing something critical there.

- M4H

 

[Mrvile]

lol drivers brought my 3DMark05 from 2.2k to 4.6k

 

[Sylvanas]

you got the latest motherboard/graphics card drivers? what AA/AF levels are you using?

 

[Mrvile]

Zebo, turning fast-writes on didn't change a thing in 3DMark05. In fact my score went down like 40 points.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: Mrvile
Zebo:

In my bios I saw 3 different caches. There was video cache (which I had off), external cache (which I turned off), and internal CPU cache (which when I turned off, windows loading was choppy and slow so I turned it back on). I should leave CPU cache on right?

You should leave on the CPU & external cache, but turn off caching the video and system bios. Older systems worked better when the video & system bios were cached to memory, but newer systems work fine without that (and faster). The caches for your CPU are referring to the Lx caches, and you definitely want those on. External cache... not 100% sure what that is referring to, but you might want to leave that on.

Check out Adrian's Rojak Pot for an excellent BIOS guide.

And for Doom3 at Ultra quality... you need a 512MB video card as stated earlier. If your video card had that, your system could easily handle that setting.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: Mrvile
Zebo:

In my bios I saw 3 different caches. There was video cache (which I had off), external cache (which I turned off), and internal CPU cache (which when I turned off, windows loading was choppy and slow so I turned it back on). I should leave CPU cache on right?

LOL

RaiderJ just posted an almost identical response at the same time I did. I even suggested the same Adrian's Rojak Pot link. Original message deleted of course.

 

[Mrvile]

Thanks for the info, I'm gonna have to find my bios cache somewhere...and thanks for the site, it has a lot of stuff.

I was running D3 today at 12x10 res, all video settings on high, AF on high, AA on 16x. My fps was a glass shattering 1. Doom 3 is a game for the future.