Despite what George W. Bush thinks, Ohio and Indiana are not in the "Middle East"

[403Forbidden]

I thik UG lives in the Middle East hahaha

 

[Jumpem]

Perhaps, the Israelis should once and for all wipe the scum known as Palestinians from the face of the earth. Such as occured to Sodam and Gommorah, sometimes evil needs to be cleansed from the desert!

 

[pen^2]

<< given to them according to God >>


dear jumpem, some of us dont believe in your christian god, it's true! now deal with it. i dont think you are entitled to use your fancy bible for an objective discussion.

 

[pen^2]

<< Perhaps, the Israelis should once and for all wipe the scum known as Palestinians from the face of the earth. Such as occured to Sodam and Gommorah, sometimes evil needs to be cleansed from the desert! >>


yeah so you just proved us you are nothing but a racist lowlife.

 

[403Forbidden]

Jumpem:

My God has told me that everything you own, righfully
belongs to me. If you do not hand over all your belonging
to me, I will institute ethnic clensing upon your house.


Thankyou.

 

[zippy]

<< Perhaps, the Israelis should once and for all wipe the scum known as Palestinians from the face of the earth. Such as occured to Sodam and Gommorah, sometimes evil needs to be cleansed from the desert! >>



JUMPEM, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT?! You are clearly NOT Jewish. If you were, you'd realize the hypocracy and idiocy of your statement. We, the Jews, were being wiped off the face of the earth about 55-61 years ago and have NO intentions of doing it to another race. Sheesh...man what an ignorant thing to say!



<< When violent invaders (Israel) take over a peaceful nation (Palestine) and
starts ethnic clensing, every citizen should fight back!!!!

I would fight back if Israel tried to take over USA and harass all the non jews.
>>



Violent invaders?! Palestinians never truly had their own country before WW2, it was England's colony. Violently take over? WTF? It was given to the Jews, the Palestinians were told NOT to leave, but they left and when they came back, you see, the Arab nations rejected them, they had no place to go except refugee camps. Ethnic cleansing? WTF? What orifice are you pulling that from?! Israel is NOT taking over the USA you moron, and they did not take over &quot;Palestine&quot;, they were given it and then they were attacked about a week into Israel's existance.

 

[Jumpem]

Perhaps some of you do not believe in God. That is your decision to make, not mine. And who are you to call me racist for recounting historical fact. Am I the one that stated the Israelis need to be pushed into the sea? I have to go (my ride is here). I'll continue this discussion later if the topic is still around.

 

[403Forbidden]

<< Israel is NOT taking over the USA you moron, >>




Hey dude you need to calm down ok? I said IF Isreal tried to take over the
USA, I would fight back.

 

[UG]

403Forbidden;

I said UN Commission, not the entire UN.

As to whether or not Israel has the right to the land on which it rests, why have Egypt and Jordan entered into legally binding non-agression treaties with Israel if Israel does not have the legal right of ownership of the land on which it rests?

Sounds like Egypt and Jordan have already recognized Israel's legal claim to the land.

 

[403Forbidden]

go yankees!

 

[pen^2]

<< Perhaps some of you do not believe in God. That is your decision to make, not mine. And who are you to call me racist for recounting historical fact. Am I the one that stated the Israelis need to be pushed into the sea? I have to go (my ride is here). I'll continue this discussion later if the topic is still around. >>


did i ever tell you not to believe in your god? all i am saying is don't try to use that as some sort of 'fact' for backing up your opinions.



<< Perhaps, the Israelis should once and for all wipe the scum known as Palestinians from the face of the earth. Such as occured to Sodam and Gommorah, sometimes evil needs to be cleansed from the desert! >>


BEEP! racist alert!

 

[Susan]

Now, I will give my retort and response to that trash that I found at one of the Palestinian sites.

You're exactly right, zippy. It's entirely possible that this story is not written by a 15 year old, but it may just be, also.

If it is at all true, then I can understand the Israeli soldiers firing upon the rock and molitov throwers.

A recent article in the Times seems to sum up the recent troubles in Israel very well, IMO.

The current Palestinian uprising against Israel is not aimed at the government of Shamir or Netanyahu, but at Prime Minister Barak. Barak is offering concessions to giving up nearly all of the West bank, offering to divide Jerusalem and even ready to renounce Israeli sovereignty of The Temple Mount, Judaisms holiest site - to the Palestines.

Yasser Arafat refused this. Then his state controlled media started to give the war cry. Upon Pres. Clinton and other world leaders calling to him to halt all the violence, his reply was &quot;Our people do not hesitate to continue the march to Jerusalem.&quot;

Arafat is enciting more hatred towards the Jews than ever before because he senses a weakness with Barak and is intent on abusing that weakness. The hate is spreading.

Meanwhile, Israel is trying to work out peace as it usually has done when you look at the history books. Arabs do not want peace it seems. All they want or ever wanted was to have Isreal no more.

 

[compuwiz1]

Pull the kids out and then level the son of a bitch! They're a pain in the ass to the world.

 

[UG]

Can anyone tell me what it means that the Mosque on Temple Mount is built on the remains of a Jewish temple?

 

[pen^2]

i take that back, not what i really meant.

 

[UG]

And the pre-'49 Jews were not oppressed?

 

[Susan]

I wouldn't mind seeing a decrease in the &quot;aid&quot; that we give Israel, Red.

Most of the $ goes towards their military might and I would much rather see it go to ours, thank you.

Not only that, but with less of those dollars, our influence with respect to their peace process may be lessened. This hopefully would allow Israel to 'think for themselves' and would stop pissing off the Arab nations at the same time.

 

[fake]

It's surprising how anti-israeli the media coverage has been lately. Stop judging the situation, there is more depth to all this than any of us can imagine. There is no right or wrong at this point ..

 

[zippy]

<< Heh that's a nice euphamism &quot;given to the Jews&quot;.

Did Palestine give it to the Jews? No it was the UN who did not even have the
right to give Palestinian land to the Jews in the first place.
It was not land owned by the UN.
>>



I guess I should have been more specific, but I thought it was a given that Israel was given to the Jews by the UN. Also, it wasn't Palestinian owned land either! It was a colony of England inhabited by Palestinians.




<< So by your logic, it's ok for my brother to steal your property, and then &quot;give&quot;
to me. And then all of a sudden it becomes my rightfull property because it
was &quot;given&quot; to me. Yea right. >>



So by your logic it is okay to live on someone else property, then when they give the property to someone else, fight your ass off because you thought you could stay there forever on land that wasn't yours?

Brotherman:

<< pain in the world? how about em freakin jews? >>

I don't agree with Jumpem's comment that was racist and you pointed out that his comment was racist, so now I'm pointing out how racist your comment is. You friggin hypocrite.

 

[jmcoreymv]

Why dont we withdraw support from Israel, and let the two nations handle it themselves?

 

[UG]

What two nations?

 

[Susan]

Actually, Britain divided what was known as Palestine into two parts in 1922. Western half to Israelis and the Eastern half to Transjordan(Jordan today).

In 1946, Britain declared Transjordan it's independence, giving it it's own independent Palestine-Arab State.

In 1947, the UN made a ruling for Israel to hand over more of their Western half to Palestinians, which they agreed to. The Arabs rejected this because of the fear of a possible Israeli State and then invaded Israel. During 15 months of war, Israel reclaimed all and more land than they had from the division that Britain originally gave them.

Over time, Israel gave back most of what they won at war to further the peace process with the Arab nations. But that hasn't been good enough for the Arabs - because in their view, there should be no Israel.

 

[dababus]

All you Jews and Jewsish lovers listen:

Palestine is a muslim country and existed well before World War II. Muslims lived their for centuries. The Jews had been driven out a long time ago. We conquered Jerusalam and we will take it back. All the Jews will be wiped out from the face of Earth. It is promised and so shall it be.

And all those who are ignorant of facts:

In 1916, the Balfour Declaration took place between the International Jewish Community and the British kings/queens/royal family. Since the Jewsish Community financially helped the Britishers (The Rothschild Donatations)during the war, as a gratitude the Britishers promised them a homeland in the heart of the Middle East, where was Palestine.

When WW2 was over and Britain was economically weak and all the nations were uprising, then the britishers started to leave. They divided the occupied middle east into 3/4 and 1/4 parts. 3/4 was made into present day Jordan and on the remaining they left the Arabs and the Jews to fight upon.

Even during the war, the Jewish secret agency HAGANA was working underground to transport by any means Jews to land of Palestine.

Israel exist only by force and it will be destroyed by force.

Jews demanded justice when they so called &quot;holocaust&quot; happened and now they are committing &quot;holocaust&quot; of the Muslims of Palestine.

If two or three jews are killed the whole world catches fire. Where as if 100 palestinans are killed, the world looks for diplomacy. Now is this justice or what.

The whole western world including Western Europe, the United States and the United Nations were quiet on the massacre of Bosnian muslims for three years, 1992 to 1995. During this period more than 300,000 muslims were killed.

Isn't this a holocaust. Or your holocaust only happens if someone kills a jew.


The land of Palestine belongs to Muslims and we will take it back.

MrPaclo, keep your racists claims to yourself.

If you live to see the time, or children or your childern's children, then do remind him of what I am saying write now. So they can witness it.

Israel will be destroyed and Palestine will be restored. Muslims will have the Jerusalam back.

403forbidden, in my opinion, i don't like UN. Because UN always remained quiet on massacre of Muslims. Whether it is Bosnia, Somalia, East Timor, Iraq, Bangladesh,Philipines, China, Russia, Israel, Central Asia, Nigeria, Algeria, Chechen and Kashmir. The list goes on. The UN is a tool of the Western World to yield is satanic powers on poor countries. UN is silent on the massacre of Muslims and had do little to improve their economies. Just giving loans, with interest plus compound interests doesn't help the countries.

One more comment. The US will never retreat from helping Israel. No matter what. The Zionist lobby is in Senate, Congress, US military, and the worst, the WALL STEET. It controls so many important institution of this country. Therefore, the US support for Israel will not decline.

If you go to war with Israel, then indirectly you are at war with United States.

 

[pen^2]

<< Israel exist only by force and it will be destroyed by force. >>


word!

 

[pen^2]

zippy, sorry if you took offense from that. my remark was just a retaliatory one to that moronic bs from Jumpem. while i strongly deny the validity of israel as a lawful country, i shouldnt have brought it down to the personal level. Some of my cool friends are jewish too, its just that i cant stand the people in the states supporting war crinimals. my appologies.