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cmdrdredd

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You can pretty much forget any interactive environment in Destiny. It's painfully static, it's all apparition geometry (you pass right through it) or indestructible.

The only interaction happens between your fist/grenades/bullets and enemies they hit

Which is partly(mostly?) because it's online the whole time and you can't destroy a building and expect random people to come and explore the area you just nuked.
 

Qbah

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Which is partly(mostly?) because it's online the whole time and you can't destroy a building and expect random people to come and explore the area you just nuked.

Why not? Have the environment on a respawn timer too, just like the enemies (perhaps not as short, they pop out from their caves every few minutes tops!). This could show nice AI too, where the enemies would need to use an always changing environment for cover Imagine if you could wield guns that would leave craters around (maybe not too big, but still... space technology and all, weapons most likely also evolved).

Both Sony and MS yap about power of the cloud all the time - put its muscle to good use I'd say!
 

cmdrdredd

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Why not? Have the environment on a respawn timer too, just like the enemies (perhaps not as short, they pop out from their caves every few minutes tops!). This could show nice AI too, where the enemies would need to use an always changing environment for cover Imagine if you could wield guns that would leave craters around (maybe not too big, but still... space technology and all, weapons most likely also evolved).

Both Sony and MS yap about power of the cloud all the time - put its muscle to good use I'd say!

I don't think that would work as well as you think. I'm no programmer but the server programming sounds like a nightmare.

I also think you're starting to see why many of us called the cloud stuff nonsense before too
 

Qbah

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I don't think that would work as well as you think. I'm no programmer but the server programming sounds like a nightmare.

I also think you're starting to see why many of us called the cloud stuff nonsense before too

With the amount of money Activision poured into Destiny, I don't think anything is impossible. That's like half a billion USD... Because right now the game doesn't feel "next gen". It's just better graphics (higher resolution, better textures, longer draw distance) - there's nothing next generation about such things I'm quite sure the new consoles could handle it, even if it would be somewhat scripted or only certain areas would allow deformation.

Oh well, maybe in Destiny 2...
 

cmdrdredd

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With the amount of money Activision poured into Destiny, I don't think anything is impossible. That's like half a billion USD... Because right now the game doesn't feel "next gen". It's just better graphics (higher resolution, better textures, longer draw distance) - there's nothing next generation about such things I'm quite sure the new consoles could handle it, even if it would be somewhat scripted or only certain areas would allow deformation.

Oh well, maybe in Destiny 2...

That's for the franchise...over 10 years. The next Destiny game will likely not be on PS3 or 360 so they can update the engine a bit I'm sure.

There is plenty about higher resolution, AA, higher resolution textures, and longer draw distances that is next-gen. That's what we buy new GPUs on PC for...to run things with higher settings. You don't change the entire game engine, just increase the graphical capabilities in use. I get what your saying but I have no idea how much of this stuff is done server side where the internet becomes the limiting factor.
 

sze5003

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Besides bf4 where you can destroy certain environments, and they reset at the end of the match, I don't think that was the plan with Destiny. The game focus is on exploration and playing in unique areas. Having destructible environments and people spawning in at any time while everyone is in the same world, where the game isn't set up like a map, is pretty tough to do. They would probably run into a lot of optimization issues.
 

JACKHAMMER

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Made me sad to delete the Beta off my PS4. But that's OK, b/c my copy of Last of Us came in today and I am excited for the game everyone has been talking about.
 

sze5003

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I'll probably play some mp on the last of us tonite for anyone who will be on. My psn is selyan. I never played the mp before so it should be fun before I play the campaign again

I don't remember much of the game except the general flow of the story and I feel I rushed through it so this time I'll take it easy.
 
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With the amount of money Activision poured into Destiny, I don't think anything is impossible. That's like half a billion USD... Because right now the game doesn't feel "next gen". It's just better graphics (higher resolution, better textures, longer draw distance) - there's nothing next generation about such things I'm quite sure the new consoles could handle it, even if it would be somewhat scripted or only certain areas would allow deformation.

Oh well, maybe in Destiny 2...

A new generation of consoles only promises more power, not infinite power or new gameplay. Everything you listed is exactly what you get with next gen.
 

zerocool84

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When you have to cater to the lowest common denominator it affects the next gen version. Still though I think it's a good looking game and going to be fun no matter what.
 

Newell Steamer

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I am really excited about this game,.. but, I have to wait and see what the reviews for it will be like.

And, I am honestly holding out for a PC version.
 

Anteaus

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You'll be waiting a long while I think, and I'm not talking next year.

I'm willing to bet that once most of the game assets are created and the game gets closer to release, Bungie will begin shifting development over to PC and target a late 2015 release after the PS4 timed-exclusive contract is over. The PC version is going to use the same game engine, interface, and art/sound assets as the console version; they aren't starting from scratch. They are shipping on four platforms next month. A year to migrate to PC is not unreasonable, even with the inevitable commitment of resources to future DLC. Of course it can just as easily be 2016, but that's my conjecture. I don't have specific data to back it up, but then again there is no hard data that supports anything with PC except that it's likely coming. We are all guessing.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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Their contract with Activision lists "destiny game 2" for PC. Whatever the heck that actually means.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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Probably because they want you to meet people and join up for stuff that way. Not always randoms.

They did say it requires teamwork. There is a spot in the first one where you have to jump from one platform to another as the first one disappears.
 
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zerocool84

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Probably because they want you to meet people and join up for stuff that way. Not always randoms.

They did say it requires teamwork. There is a spot in the first one where you have to jump from one platform to another as the first one disappears.
Which I don't like. I don't know too many people with a PS4 and always having to wait for friends to be able to do a raid really sucks IMO.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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Which I don't like. I don't know too many people with a PS4 and always having to wait for friends to be able to do a raid really sucks IMO.
We have about 9 members of the Destiny clan. Plus others from here.

Teamwork is necessary, and there are no waypoints or anything to tell you what to do or where to go in the raids.
 
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chimaxi83

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Which I don't like. I don't know too many people with a PS4 and always having to wait for friends to be able to do a raid really sucks IMO.

We have about 9 members of the Destiny clan. Plus others from here.

Teamwork is necessary, and there are no waypoints or anything to tell you what to do or where to go in the raids.

Yes, add yourself!

Speaking of which, I can find the clan page on the website labeled beta, but not on theClans of Destiny site. Am I looking at the wrong stuff?
 

zerocool84

Lifer
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We have about 9 members of the Destiny clan. Plus others from here.

Teamwork is necessary, and there are no waypoints or anything to tell you what to do or where to go in the raids.

Just to play with each other in the clan we'd have to set up a time, not everyone can be on at the same time. I just wish they'd make it available to play with anyone. Makes more sense like every other MMO or MMO lite. It's just going to be difficult to set up a time with five people then be able to stay on for those three or so hours. I really hope Bungie changes that soon.
 
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cmdrdredd

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Just to play with each other in the clan we'd have to set up a time, not everyone can be on at the same time. I just wish they'd make it available to play with anyone. Makes more sense like every other MMO or MMO lite. It's just going to be difficult to set up a time with five people then be able to stay on for those three or so hours. I really hope Bungie changes that soon.

*shrug* if you played any other MMO you'd know that there are events that random groups cannot do no matter what.

I played FFXI for many years and there were many things that random groups would never be able to accomplish. That's why they made linkshells. So you could get people together and put together some type of strategy to allow you to win. Random people just shooting things would be guaranteed failure.

Yes, add yourself!

Speaking of which, I can find the clan page on the website labeled beta, but not on theClans of Destiny site. Am I looking at the wrong stuff?

That website is not linked/affiliated/or in any way connected to Bungie. We are on Bungie.net
 
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sze5003

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Im sure when it releases more people will be opting in to add each other and go through strikes and raids if they really want to play them. Besides you guys I have two other friends who own a ps4 and they will also have Destiny.
 
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