Destiny - Negative reviews, all the same 'complaints'...

[RampantAndroid]

You act as if it's bad because at it's core it's an FPS game. Every FPS game has this same stuff, even Bioshock. You went here, killed that, repeat.

Sure; my point is that this game is incredibly repetitive. More so than games like Mass Effect, Deus Ex HR and whatnot (the narrative in Destiny is more or less on pause between you letting your ghost do something. There's no thinking, there's no involvement on my part. The story is...well, it's not at ALL engaging. I couldn't care any less.) The only styling of gameplay is in your class...I'd trade Destiny as an MMOFPS for it to resemble something closer to an FPSRPG like Deus Ex in a heartbeat. But that's because I prefer games that let me play how I want to.


I've nothing against MMOFPSes, I've enjoyed them in past...just on a PC where my party size wasn't limited to 3 and I could talk to other people.

 

[digiram]

I'm only level 8 and just finished the worlds grave mission...but it's already just recycled stuff. How here, plug in ghost. Waves attack. Go there, plug in ghost. Waves attack.


It's fun and all and I wish I could game more (silly girlfriend....:sneaky so don't think I'm saying the game is crap. But I DID go into it thinking more Mass Effect, and less...well, planetside. My point is that it's an MMOFPS, and once I realized that it seems like a fun enough game. You just need friends.

This is very true. I think they could've done much better with the missions because it is the same crap over and over. Deploy ghose, wait for wave.. lol. However, the gunfights are very entertaining, but it's very true that Bungie could've put much more thought into the story missions at least.

 

[RampantAndroid]

This is very true. I think they could've done much better with the missions because it is the same crap over and over. Deploy ghose, wait for wave.. lol. However, the gunfights are very entertaining, but it's very true that Bungie could've put much more thought into the story missions at least.

Agreed; and they've done it before. Halo games aren't the best stories out there, but they have a heck of a lot more story to them than Destiny does.

Case in point: the sellers in the tower. They're just NPCs. There's a HINT of a story for them, but you can't talk to them. They have nothing to say. No stories. No cool "how did we get to where we are now" things to find out. I'm looking for a well constructed world. Mass Effect did that VERY well. It's simply missing in Destiny - and it's a great looking world...it just needs things in it.

 

[futurefields]

I think one reason for the backlash is because a lot of people feel this game embodies one of the worst trends in modern gaming which is for AAA developers to release a bare bones main game for $59.99 that has obviously been designed with DLC in mind to flesh out the content to an appreciable level. And you KNOW the DLC is going to have aspects such as level cap increases etc.. the kind of stuff that make it so even if the content is garbage you want to buy the DLC to satisfy the OCD-driven desire nearly every gamer has to reach max level caps in games, etc..

 

[Veliko]

Not interesting for blues and greens maybe. But, several legendaries have meaningful upgrades, like reload speed and cool down reduction.

They aren't meaningful, they're nice little extras.

Also, extra ammo is extremely useful in late game scenarios. Not every boss drops ammo at a rate you expend it, especially when you have to do things like to in portals and kill orbs as quickly as possibly (that drop nothing). You buy ammo packs, but even those aren't always enough, because you have a CD on them.

This must be the fifth post to claim that ammo is scarce in "late-game scenarios", yet no-one has actually given any real examples.

I've been playing the level 24 strikes for a week now and at no point did I have an issue with ammo on the bosses.

 

[Veliko]

You act as if it's bad because at it's core it's an FPS game. Every FPS game has this same stuff, even Bioshock. You went here, killed that, repeat. There's no FPS game that isn't this way.

Every FPS game has FPS stuff, yes, but not every FPS has as much repetition as Destiny.

Bioshock had an intriguing narrative and a great atmosphere that made up for its other flaws.

 

[sze5003]

I'm finding out many of my friends are really addicted to this game for some reason. I've been going through a rough time the past few weeks and haven't touched it but everyone else just loves everything about it...well except the story. They all reccomend it if you don't want a story driven game as a main focus.

I'm pretty sure many will get the dlc too. Everyone wants to get the legendary gear and weapons and obtain higher levels. I'm not sure if I will buy the dlc seeing as I don't even get enough time to reach the soft level cap.

 

[Qbah]

What sucks is that there are no NPCs outside of the Tower. Zero. Nada. The whole world feels dead and empty. There is zero interaction and even inside the tower, there's only the vendors. You just shoot stuff. What also sucks is joining the Fireteam. Even if you're on the same location as your friend (both doing patrols for example or one on a mission and other on patrol), the game will kick you out and re-load THE SAME location again after joining the fireteam of your friend. Very bad design.

Legendary weapons are no different from rare weapons which are no different from green weapons. They just have more of the same bonuses, but it's still the same bonuses. And the damage is higher on rarer loot. But apart from that they're identical.

Exotic weapons have ONE special bonus. For example, my Pocket Infinity has "full auto + chance to return ammo on miss" in one selection (that's its special exotic bonus). The Bad Juju I'm getting now has instant reloads. Thorn (hand cannon) has a dot on hit. Red Death has heal on kill. But they all do the same damage as legendary (300 max upgraded).

The game is very bare bones, it's simple as a brick and the kill ways aren't really that varied. The class abilities are nice however - once you get their cooldowns down and can use them often. Meaning in coop (unless you're a Defender Titan, your super already recharges when the bubble is on - which is very nice ).

Right now the only challenge is to kill faster than they can kill you with the special modifiers.

Is the game a disappointment? Definitely. But it's still fun. It's just not as fun as Borderlands or Diablo in my opinion. And definitely not as fun as it seemed to be from all the pre-release videos and interviews.

 

[futurefields]

Every FPS game has FPS stuff, yes, but not every FPS has as much repetition as Destiny.

Bioshock had an intriguing narrative and a great atmosphere that made up for its other flaws.

The fact that he would even compare the "shooting things" in Bioshock (a game in which you are unfolding a narrative) to the "shooting things" in Destiny (a quasi-mmorpgfps with almost no narrative at all) should be sufficient to show you that his opinion can pretty much be ignored.

 

[Veliko]

The fact that he would even compare the "shooting things" in Bioshock (a game in which you are unfolding a narrative) to the "shooting things" in Destiny (a quasi-mmorpgfps with almost no narrative at all) should be sufficient to show you that his opinion can pretty much be ignored.

True enough.

His response to every criticism is either "You're wrong" or "Game X does it as well."

 

[cmdrdredd]

They aren't meaningful, they're nice little extras.



This must be the fifth post to claim that ammo is scarce in "late-game scenarios", yet no-one has actually given any real examples.

I've been playing the level 24 strikes for a week now and at no point did I have an issue with ammo on the bosses.

I gave an example that you ignored. The mars strike against the cabal leader when you are fighting the sub bosses who won't drop any ammo until you kill them.

 

[cmdrdredd]

True enough.

His response to every criticism is either "You're wrong" or "Game X does it as well."

There is a reason I ignored the troll futurefields. He doesn't even have the game.

 

[Veliko]

I gave an example that you ignored. The makes strike against the cabal leader when you are fighting the sub bosses who won't drop any ammo until you kill them.

I didn't ignore it at all, I repeated that I haven't had any issues with ammo on any of the level 24 strike levels.

And that includes the Cabal strike.

 

[sze5003]

I really don't understand why people who don't have the game complain as much as those who have played it. What is wrong with you ?

 

[chimaxi83]

I really don't understand why people who don't have the game complain as much as those who have played it. What is wrong with you ?

Internet retards, and/or known trolls.

 

[purbeast0]

Internet retards, and/or known trolls.

pretty sure in this case it's trolls (in this thread that is).

 

[ImpulsE69]

Who's the troll when there is 2 other threads dedicated to playing Destiny, and yet, the same people come in here saying that peoples justifications for not liking or dismissing the game are invalid (only not quite as nicely or nearly as intelligently)? Seems pretty trollish to me. Oh wait, I forgot, they are also the narrow minded can't see past their own 2 feet people that call anyone who disagrees with them trolls. Such a vicious trollish cycle.

TL;DR - Disagree with me? Troll. Have an opposing opinion to which I have nothing to contribute to the conversation but I post anyway saying 'nuh uh'? Troll.

 

[Rakehellion]

 

[Rakehellion]

You act as if it's bad because at it's core it's an FPS game. Every FPS game has this same stuff, even Bioshock. You went here, killed that, repeat. There's no FPS game that isn't this way.

Destiny is an MMO FPS, two genres I avoid because of their repetitiveness. I don't think I'd touch this game with a ten foot pole.

Apparently they spent half a billion on this game and I was hoping to hear at least some good things about it in this thread but I didn't get my hopes up.

I prefer arcade shooters like DOOM over tactical games.

 

[Rakehellion]

Level 1-20 is the starter area. It gets you familiar with the environments and abilities and as disappointing taken on its own.

What is the max level?

 

[chimaxi83]

Who's the troll when there is 2 other threads dedicated to playing Destiny, and yet, the same people come in here saying that peoples justifications for not liking or dismissing the game are invalid (only not quite as nicely or nearly as intelligently)? Seems pretty trollish to me. Oh wait, I forgot, they are also the narrow minded can't see past their own 2 feet people that call anyone who disagrees with them trolls. Such a vicious trollish cycle.

TL;DR - Disagree with me? Troll. Have an opposing opinion to which I have nothing to contribute to the conversation but I post anyway saying 'nuh uh'? Troll.

I'm pretty sure the trolls are the morons sharing opinions on something they haven't played. Those are the only people, in my opinion, whose opinion means exactly jack.

Destiny is absolutely not game of the year material, but people should at least see things for themselves before judging. I can understand the opinion of "this game just isn't for me based on everything I've read", but the bashing and "this game suxxorz" from tards who haven't touched it is a little stupid. In my opinion.

 

[mnewsham]

What is the max level?

level after level 20 is based on your light level which is affected by your armor which has "light" modifier sort of like defense. A chest piece for example could be 300Def. +22 light.

The higher your light level, the higher level you are. I am currently Level 25 because I have 2 legendary pieces and 2 rare pieces, if I upgrade my other 2 rare pieces to legendary I will probably hit level 26 or even 27.


So it's all loot dependant and it allows them to easily add in more loot later with better stats that will raise the "level cap" without really having to change much of anything (besides adding in new better loot)

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'm pretty sure the trolls are the morons sharing opinions on something they haven't played. Those are the only people, in my opinion, whose opinion means exactly jack.

Destiny is absolutely not game of the year material, but people should at least see things for themselves before judging. I can understand the opinion of "this game just isn't for me based on everything I've read", but the bashing and "this game suxxorz" from tards who haven't touched it is a little stupid. In my opinion.

Precisely this. If you played it and find something you don't like that is one thing. I may try to counter your point, but don't come into threads about games you haven't played and expect your opinion to have any weight.

One thing I expect to be changed in the game is heroic story missions. Replaying the story on higher difficulty doesn't give any bonuses unless you have a bounty. Why would I go back and play a level 8 mission set to level 28 if I am just going to grind through it for no reason? I expect that in an update or something Bungie will add selectable modifiers and each one will add a different reward based on the level you selected and the modifiers active. That would at least give me more of a reason to go back to it without a bounty. Make it a good way to farm for upgrade materials or something.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Precisely this. If you played it and find something you don't like that is one thing. I may try to counter your point, but don't come into threads about games you haven't played and expect your opinion to have any weight.

One thing I expect to be changed in the game is heroic story missions. Replaying the story on higher difficulty doesn't give any bonuses unless you have a bounty. Why would I go back and play a level 8 mission set to level 28 if I am just going to grind through it for no reason? I expect that in an update or something Bungie will add selectable modifiers and each one will add a different reward based on the level you selected and the modifiers active. That would at least give me more of a reason to go back to it without a bounty. Make it a good way to farm for upgrade materials or something.

The big thing for me would be in-game party formation. You need some way of letting people in the public areas know that you're looking for a raid or nightfall party. I refuse to go around randomly inviting people to my fireteam just so I can tell them what I'm doing, only to have them tell me they're not interested. Every time I think about it I get angry at Bungie for leaving it out of the game.

 

[tw1164]

Today I was thinking about what in Destiny really turns me off. I think it's the load times. The amount of delay between finishing a story mission and beginning the next one is just too much. You should just be dropped back to the planet after the mission, where you can select a new mission on the planet or return to orbit. They should really add merchants (or least a robot to identify your drops)on the various planets too.