I think the build is fine.
This is General Hardware, so you'll have a lot of cheapies trying to talk you down. I say go bigger.
This is General Hardware, so you'll have a lot of cheapies trying to talk you down. I say go bigger.
I think the build is fine.
This is General Hardware, so you'll have a lot of cheapies trying to talk you down. I say go bigger.
Update: Switched RAM to Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600. 1600MHz and 8-8-8-24 timings at only 1.35 volts.
One reason to spend more is for better customer service. If two DIMMs are identical, then they both have a similar rate of failure - and when one does fail, it's handy to have bought them from a company that will replace them even if they're out of warranty, simply because they stand proudly behind their products.
Oh, nice, that one looks even better. I'll do my obligatory research on it first thing in the morning.
Edit: Couldn't sleep. Tried counting PSUs, still wide awake.
Did the research, that X650 PSU is awesome. Updated my build.
The X650 is certainly nice, but it's not worth the money unless it is on a killer sale <$80 or so. You just don't get much marginal value by going from Bronze to Gold, certainly not worth paying double.
I'd say it's somewhat reasonable in that the quality of parts in the PSU is a little higher, it has a longer warranty (I believe), and a semi-fanless mode. His budget is also big enough for these little splurges.
...I feel a little dirty taking this wasteful point of view.
The only problem with that statement is the quality bit. The M12II, for example, comes with Nippon Ichi and Rubycon caps (Rubycons for the secondary caps exclusively), and is generally very good; the soldering is top notch and there are no reasons for complaints.
The only real improvements in build quality of the X-650 are a slightly more modern internal layout (and thus the higher efficiency), the better fan, and all Nippon Ichi caps, and that's pretty minor, all things considered.
So the build quality improvement is pretty marginal, but I 100% agree with getting it for an improvement in functionality (semi-fanless mode).
The 80 Plus cert verifies "performance", with performance defined as 1. being able to convert some percentage of AC power into DC power and 2. being able to pull the rated wattage at room temperature. Under no circumstances can you make any definitive conclusions about longevity, reliability, or subtle aspects of performance such as noise/ripple by that certification alone. Anything other than what the cert givers test is all just assumption that the parts used are "better".
And when a Gold model's warranty is two years longer than the equivalent Bronze model's? Is that just the company trying to fool us into thinking it's better as well (it might sound like I'm being sardonic, but I'm not - it's a serious question)?
And when a Gold model's warranty is two years longer than the equivalent Bronze model's? Is that just the company trying to fool us into thinking it's better as well (it might sound like I'm being sardonic, but I'm not - it's a serious question)?
This is silly. He has a big budget, the X-650 is better than the M12 in at least half a dozen ways, and he's building an ultra-high end rig.
A $70 power supply does not belong in this system anymore than a $50 case or an $80 motherboard.
I gotta be honest. I'm not liking the new Seasonic PSUs. My old Seasonic X 650w 2009 is nice, but these new one's feel cheap. I've had the latest 650X Gold, and the 660W Platinum and that's what my opinion is based from.
Has either one malfunctioned so far? Or do they just feel flimsy?
The new cables are flat black plastic ribbons. That makes them look and feel cheaper than the old kind, but the ribbon cabling is actually easier to route and bend. It's a question of aesthetics and perceived quality against functionality (Seasonic basically made the opposite trade off Apple usually does ).
I didn't try but I don't think the 24 Main would of reached my motherboard installed in my 800D The rest of the cables were altogether short at a glance. I didn't even have to size them up against my other cables and I knew they would of never reached the devices that needed power. Then, imo, the cables seem like trash. Some say they are good because they are easier to route but come the short cables then the un-sleeved cabling = cutting costs to me. The last thing on the 660w Platinum was the 5v whine. A Seasonic rep told me it's there because of some high standard they design the PSU around.
This is silly. He has a big budget, the X-650 is better than the M12 in at least half a dozen ways.
And when a Gold model's warranty is two years longer than the equivalent Bronze model's? Is that just the company trying to fool us into thinking it's better as well (it might sound like I'm being sardonic, but I'm not - it's a serious question)?