Deutsche Bank confirms it has Trump's tax returns...and will release them

UNCjigga

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Also, DB confirms they issued Trump a loan cosigned by Russian oligarchs. Apparently all of this has been turned over to Judiciary or is in the process of being turned over....

Edit: No dice on the Russian-cosigned loan story--Lawrence O'Donnell issued a retraction. I guess we'll know for sure if and when any of these documents are turned over to Congress.
 
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glenn1

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Why would DB release his tax returns?

For some reason the left seems to think that if the public knew Trump was only worth $300mm instead of $100B or something, they'll refuse to vote for him in 2020. Or that there will be a line item on his 1040 form saying "tax deductible bribe from Vladimir Putin, $10mm."

Should Trump have released his tax returns long ago? Of course. Is there going to be something in there which will be straightforward rationale to impeach or cause him to lose the election, no. Do I care if they're released and he's embarrassed, likewise no. This reminds me of the Bill Clinton days and right wing dipshits wanted to release Bubba's medical files because they were sure he had an STD and that would be what caused him to lose the election. It was stupid then, and it's likewise stupid now.
 

Muse

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For some reason the left seems to think that if the public knew Trump was only worth $300mm instead of $100B or something, they'll refuse to vote for him in 2020. Or that there will be a line item on his 1040 form saying "tax deductible bribe from Vladimir Putin, $10mm."

Should Trump have released his tax returns long ago? Of course. Is there going to be something in there which will be straightforward rationale to impeach or cause him to lose the election, no. Do I care if they're released and he's embarrassed, likewise no. This reminds me of the Bill Clinton days and right wing dipshits wanted to release Bubba's medical files because they were sure he had an STD and that would be what caused him to lose the election. It was stupid then, and it's likewise stupid now.
You don't know what's in his tax returns. It's pretty likely damaging to him and I'm all for anything that damages his influence or better yet his reelectability. The scum that's accumulated around this presidency is already up around the ankles. Release of T's tax returns would probably put it up around his calves.
 
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ivwshane

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The real reason for the bank handing over information to Congress is because it's apart of a court order from a battle between Congress (the house) and the white house in order to properly provide oversight of the executive, specifically with trumps financial business dealings.

Idiots like glenn1, simply like to regurgitate right wing talking points because they are either too stupid to research things on their own or because they couldn't give two shits about the constitution.

Hypocritically, things like a conflict of interest or obstructing investigations used to be a concern for people like glenn1 when it was Democrats that were being investigated. Now? Well now its just politics/eyeroll
 
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ivwshane

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You don't know what's in his tax returns. It's pretty likely damaging to him and I'm all for anything that damages his influence or better yet his reelectability. The scum that's accumulated around this presidency is already up around the ankles. Release of T's tax returns would probably put it up around his calves.

They also don't have just his tax returns, they have drafts of his tax returns which also allows for additional scrutiny.

Good luck getting through that mouth breather.
 
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For some reason the left seems to think that if the public knew Trump was only worth $300mm instead of $100B or something, they'll refuse to vote for him in 2020. Or that there will be a line item on his 1040 form saying "tax deductible bribe from Vladimir Putin, $10mm."

Should Trump have released his tax returns long ago? Of course. Is there going to be something in there which will be straightforward rationale to impeach or cause him to lose the election, no. Do I care if they're released and he's embarrassed, likewise no. This reminds me of the Bill Clinton days and right wing dipshits wanted to release Bubba's medical files because they were sure he had an STD and that would be what caused him to lose the election. It was stupid then, and it's likewise stupid now.
They issued him a loaned signed by Russian oligarchs. That doesn’t concern you in the least given his co duct towards Russia since he’s been in office?
 

Muse

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If it turns out that his presumed 4-5 billion $$s is really less than 100M, he'd be damaged goods for sure. His finances are complicated. Having filed bankruptcy multiple times and being a juggler like he is, it wouldn't surprise me if he pretends to be a lot richer than he is in reality when it's sorted out. He doesn't want the facts known. It's in his nature.
 

Vic

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For some reason the left seems to think that if the public knew Trump was only worth $300mm instead of $100B or something, they'll refuse to vote for him in 2020. Or that there will be a line item on his 1040 form saying "tax deductible bribe from Vladimir Putin, $10mm."

Should Trump have released his tax returns long ago? Of course. Is there going to be something in there which will be straightforward rationale to impeach or cause him to lose the election, no. Do I care if they're released and he's embarrassed, likewise no. This reminds me of the Bill Clinton days and right wing dipshits wanted to release Bubba's medical files because they were sure he had an STD and that would be what caused him to lose the election. It was stupid then, and it's likewise stupid now.

You're stupid as fuck if you actually believe this.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Let me know when Deutsche Bank releases Trump’s autopsy; I bet that would be good reading.
 

MixMasterTang

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They issued him a loaned signed by Russian oligarchs. That doesn’t concern you in the least given his conduct towards Russia since he’s been in office?

To me (and I'd imagine most sane people) this is the biggest part of the story and exactly why there needs to be more transparency into a candidates finances!
 
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DrDoug

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This explains why Felonious D has been tongue-bathing Vlad every time he sees him. The Russian big boys with the money don't do a damned thing like cosign loans like this without Putin's knowledge and approval.

glenn is a box of rocks

That's a bit too much, man... at least a box of rocks can be useful if you need one.
 

fskimospy

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For some reason the left seems to think that if the public knew Trump was only worth $300mm instead of $100B or something, they'll refuse to vote for him in 2020. Or that there will be a line item on his 1040 form saying "tax deductible bribe from Vladimir Putin, $10mm."

Should Trump have released his tax returns long ago? Of course. Is there going to be something in there which will be straightforward rationale to impeach or cause him to lose the election, no. Do I care if they're released and he's embarrassed, likewise no. This reminds me of the Bill Clinton days and right wing dipshits wanted to release Bubba's medical files because they were sure he had an STD and that would be what caused him to lose the election. It was stupid then, and it's likewise stupid now.

Knowing who is paying the president money is not stupid regardless of what is in them. This is basic common sense.
 
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Vic

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I wouldn't get your hopes up. It'll probably be like last time, where we get just the 2 pages of some old 1040's so that the crowd that pays $500 to H&R Block to do their W-2 income/standard deduction returns can call it a nothingburger.
 

compuwiz1

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Well, my darned logical side of my brain just had to kick in. If there were any bombshells in his tax returns, wouldn't the IRS have been on him like stink on shit? Irregularities trigger audits, but those aren't the only things that do. Sometimes people are just unlucky when it comes to getting audited, others just make so much money that it's pretty certain they get audited. So many questions; do we get Trump's personal returns, or the business returns? I'm 99% certain that a businessman like Trump has the loans taken out by the corporation. So a Russian oligarch co signed, which is pretty strange. Why would Deutsche bank make such a loan? Wouldn't that come under the scrutiny of regulators somewhere. Also, there are a lot of dumb asses out there that think this is a Russian bank. It's a German bank. Just not sure what the OP has posted is accurate, as there was no linky posted. So, is this news from a propaganda site?

I'm all for the release of his tax returns, if legally required to do so, for valid purposes. If we head down that road, just because political opponents demand it, because reasons, this has bad potential and could be a slippery slope. Once this is a precedent, nobody is safe. There needs to be a new law in place that says all candidates running for office are required to submit several years of tax returns. I say 5 years minimum. So far it has been voluntary. They are either required, or they're not required. Bottom line is, if Trump didn't offer tax returns, it's because he didn't have to, because it was not legally required. So, if we want that changed, as the old saying goes; "there ought to be a law."

And OP needs to post a link to authenticate claims.
 
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JSt0rm

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Once this is a precedent, nobody is safe.

pretty sure most everyone is safe you retard. Very few people will be in the running for president of the united states. Unless you think that now that president piss baby will have to release his financials your fast food window server is gonna have to because of what? Your brain worms?
 

JEDIYoda

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Well, my darned logical side of my brain just had to kick in. If there were any bombshells in his tax returns, wouldn't the IRS have been on him like stink on shit? Irregularities trigger audits, but those aren't the only things that do. Sometimes people are just unlucky when it comes to getting audited, others just make so much money that it's pretty certain they get audited. So many questions; do we get Trump's personal returns, or the business returns? I'm 99% certain that a businessman like Trump has the loans taken out by the corporation. So a Russian oligarch co signed, which is pretty strange. Why would Deutsche bank make such a loan? Wouldn't that come under the scrutiny of regulators somewhere. Also, there are a lot of dumb asses out there that think this is a Russian bank. It's a German bank. Just not sure what the OP has posted is accurate, as there was no linky posted. So, is this news from a propaganda site?

I'm all for the release of his tax returns, if legally required to do so, for valid purposes. If we head down that road, just because political opponents demand it, because reasons, this has bad potential and could be a slippery slope. Once this is a precedent, nobody is safe. There needs to be a new law in place that says all candidates running for office are required to submit several years of tax returns. I say 5 years minimum. So far it has been voluntary. They are either required, or they're not required. Bottom line is, if Trump didn't offer tax returns, it's because he didn't have to, because it was not legally required. So, if we want that changed, as the old saying goes; "there ought to be a law."
Your logical side of what you call a brain was better off sleeping!! You do not knpowanything about what you are crying about!!
 

dawp

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This explains why Felonious D has been tongue-bathing Vlad every time he sees him. The Russian big boys with the money don't do a damned thing like cosign loans like this without Putin's knowledge and approval.



That's a bit too much, man... at least a box of rocks can be useful if you need one.
or without something in return.
 

compuwiz1

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Your logical side of what you call a brain was better off sleeping!! You do not knpowanything about what you are crying about!!
Crying? No, I'm laughing at some of you. You don't know jack shit, buck wheat.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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Well, my darned logical side of my brain just had to kick in. If there were any bombshells in his tax returns, wouldn't the IRS have been on him like stink on shit? Irregularities trigger audits, but those aren't the only things that do. Sometimes people are just unlucky when it comes to getting audited, others just make so much money that it's pretty certain they get audited. So many questions; do we get Trump's personal returns, or the business returns? I'm 99% certain that a businessman like Trump has the loans taken out by the corporation. So a Russian oligarch co signed, which is pretty strange. Why would Deutsche bank make such a loan? Wouldn't that come under the scrutiny of regulators somewhere. Also, there are a lot of dumb asses out there that think this is a Russian bank. It's a German bank. Just not sure what the OP has posted is accurate, as there was no linky posted. So, is this news from a propaganda site?

I'm all for the release of his tax returns, if legally required to do so, for valid purposes. If we head down that road, just because political opponents demand it, because reasons, this has bad potential and could be a slippery slope. Once this is a precedent, nobody is safe. There needs to be a new law in place that says all candidates running for office are required to submit several years of tax returns. I say 5 years minimum. So far it has been voluntary. They are either required, or they're not required. Bottom line is, if Trump didn't offer tax returns, it's because he didn't have to, because it was not legally required. So, if we want that changed, as the old saying goes; "there ought to be a law."

And OP needs to post a link to authenticate claims.

Your logical side should get with your curiosity side and read up on the subject because if you were informed you'd realize that the law allows congress to see ANYONE'S tax returns, period.

I'm glad you think the president having a loan cosigned by Russian oligarchs is, "weird".

Most "logical" people would be concerned if a president of the united states, who has a habit of siding with Russia, who, since the beginning of his campaign was trying to create a secure back channel between their campaign and Russia, who has been silent on Russia's attack on our elections, and who wants to overlook Russia's international violations in order to have him rejoin the G8, most people would be concerned that a Russian oligarch cosigned one of the president's loans. Most "logical" people would be more than weirded out by that and instead would be FUCKING CONCERNED AND RINGING ALARM BELLS!

Not you though...I guess you are too "logical".
 
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compuwiz1

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I would be concerned and alarmed, I suppose, if I got my news from places like the Raw Story and Dailykos and believed it, like so many morons do.
So, what if a Russian oligarch did cosign for Trump or the Trump organization before he became president...was it illegal?
 
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