repoman0
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Apparently you need to look up the definition of "indoctrination".
Can you please clear up in what ways public schools are indoctrinating children? Specifics, please.
Apparently you need to look up the definition of "indoctrination".
Of course, teaching things you agree with is fine, teaching things you don't agree with is "indoctrination". That's fine, as long as everyone has a choice..... but lefties want to make sure there's no choice, and kids can only get the "correct" education based on the lefty perspective.
Why are you for social injustice?Apparently you need to look up the definition of "indoctrination".
Can you please clear up in what ways public schools are indoctrinating children? Specifics, please.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=liberal+indoctrination+in+public+education
Start there. Plenty of links and good reading.
https://www.google.com/search?q=indoctrination&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
So answer the question, because nothing I've seen from public school applies.
I'll tell ya something else, I did 8-12 grade in a Christian school. We had bible class, chapel, required weekly bible verses to memorize, and essays to do. And no, being critical wasn't accepted. Open debates were not part of it, and stepping out of line meant detentions and possible suspension.
lol. I want your own words and thoughts, not a smartass link that isn't even an article and is filled with the likes of infowars. Funny joke though, that infowars and company are good reading. I see why you are what you are now. When asked for your own thoughts, you are an empty shell.
That wasn't a link to infowars, but hey, if you're incapable of discerning good links from infowars links, then I can't help you much anyway.
The goal is to provide students with an education. The tax dollars are used for that purpose. There is nothing that says taxpayer dollars have to be used solely to pay for public education. IMO if taxpayer dollars are used to pay for someone's education, then the taxpayer (ie, the government) has a right to attach some basic conditions (minimum standards of what that education has to include).
I was unaware that "choice" has been completely removed from where a parent sends their kids to school. What happened to all the private schools? Are they closed? How will vouchers work with no choices?
Or are you saying you can't make a "choice" without the government subsidizing you?
Nope, private schools are there of course, but they cost a lot of money. People with with money already have choices. We're talking about people who can't afford to have those choices, those most vulnerable to being stuck going to low performing public schools. Essentially the government spends x per pupil in the public school system. There's nothing wrong with taking that same amount x and letting the parents decide where to spend it to educate their child. The total dollars don't change, and the parents have more choices.
It's a good thing you (or rather, your parents) had the right to decide if the education was appropriate for you. If not, they could <gasp> send you to another school. Your personal experience with a particular school is an anecdote. Nothing more, nothing less.
Your tax dollar goes to public institutions and infrastructure. You don't get to direct how the money is spent other than electing representatives that you think line up with your thinking.
Sure, it's their right to leave me at a disadvantage going into adulthood. We should champion this. I spent half a decade trying to catch up.
And you still haven't answered the question.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=liberal+indoctrination+in+public+education
Start there. Plenty of links and good reading.
No, you gave a link. You continue to avoid actually putting in a post how exactly public schools are indoctrinating children.
If you think I'm alone, think again.
My argument has, and always will be, religion has no place in a real education. You want to learn about Jesus and the Bible, fine...Sunday comes once a week....oh and don't forget the other 16 hours a day you're not in school.
You are only ok with real indoctrination, and try to pull that bullsh*t "oh you guys are doing it too", but fail to show how.
Says he won't articulate it... because the many people asking to read it won't listen.I have neither the time nor inclination to go into those details with you since I know you won't listen anyway. A link is perfectly sufficient for you to be able to read for yourself. There's plenty of information out there.
Sadly, I know you're not a lone, there's a lot of other "great nanny state to rule over the subjects" type thinkers.
That's fine, that's your opinion. Others do not have to share it. People can home school, they can go to private schools, or they can go to public schools. Who are you to decide for them what should be included in their schooling or not included?
I'm OK with parents deciding what kind of education their kids get. Many parents already have that option to make that decision -- only poor parents or parents of limited means lack that option. Why do you hate the poor or people of limited means?
I have neither the time nor inclination to go into those details with you since I know you won't listen anyway. A link is perfectly sufficient for you to be able to read for yourself. There's plenty of information out there.
The problem is that those on the right consider things like global warming, evolution, geologic history of the earth, and other such subjects as indoctrination. So yes, those on the left are concerned that kids get the correct education. We care that kids are learning scientific facts and opinions supported by facts. The right wants all opinions to receive equal consideration, regardless of how well supported those opinions are.Of course, teaching things you agree with is fine, teaching things you don't agree with is "indoctrination". That's fine, as long as everyone has a choice..... but lefties want to make sure there's no choice, and kids can only get the "correct" education based on the lefty perspective.
The problem is that those on the right consider things like global warming, evolution, geologic history of the earth, and other such subjects as indoctrination. So yes, those on the left are concerned that kids get the correct education. We care that kids are learning scientific facts and opinions supported by facts. The right wants all opinions to receive equal consideration, regardless of how well supported those opinions are.
I agree, mostly with this, but the right has been on a mission and as a whole, to discredit climate change science, I cannot think of many republican elected officials who not only embrace the science behind climate change, but actively pursue a resolution for it.Tribalism! And not everyone on the right wants or respects those notions. There are a few crazies out there, sure, but I seriously doubt the word 'most' would be applicable here.
There is plenty of indoctrination in the US education system though, IMO. Just in different forms, and up for debate as to whether it's a bad thing or not.
I have neither the time nor inclination to go into those details with you since I know you won't listen anyway. A link is perfectly sufficient for you to be able to read for yourself. There's plenty of information out there.
Sadly, I know you're not a lone, there's a lot of other "great nanny state to rule over the subjects" type thinkers.
That's fine, that's your opinion. Others do not have to share it. People can home school, they can go to private schools, or they can go to public schools. Who are you to decide for them what should be included in their schooling or not included?
I'm OK with parents deciding what kind of education their kids get. Many parents already have that option to make that decision -- only poor parents or parents of limited means lack that option. Why do you hate the poor or people of limited means?