DeVos confirmed as Ed Secretary

[jackstar7]

For under $1mil you too can buy a Cabinet position!

 

[dank69]

YEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWW!

 

[OrByte]

Bad move.

There is your "swamp cleaning" at work ladies and gents

 

[jman19]

She came across as clueless in the confirmation hearings, so she should fit right in with this admin.

Nothing like selling off a cabinet seat to a billionaire donor with an agenda.

Embarrassing.

 

[vi edit]

If it wasn't for those bears....I would have gone to college.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

However when "The New England Primer" was a staple in public schools, The US had the best education system in the world.

HOLY FUCKBALLS JOHN WAYNE!! We were the best education system in 1687? That's staggering, so how many discoveries, inventions have happened in THE PAST 330 YEARS, YOU IGNORANT TWATWAFFLE??!!?

Lemme help you with that..
18th century -

• 1745 – Ewald Jürgen Georg von Kleist first capacitor, the Leyden jar
• 1750 – Joseph Black: describes latent heat
• 1751 – Benjamin Franklin: Lightning is electrical
• 1761 – Mikhail Lomonosov: discovery of the atmosphere of Venus
• 1763 – Thomas Bayes: publishes the first version of Bayes' theorem, paving the way for Bayesian probability
• 1771 – Charles Messier: Publishes catalogue of astronomical objects (Messier Objects) now known to include galaxies, star clusters, and nebulae.
• 1778 – Antoine Lavoisier (and Joseph Priestley): discovery of oxygen leading to end of Phlogiston theory
• 1781 – William Herschel announces discovery of Uranus, expanding the known boundaries of the solar system for the first time in modern history
• 1785 – William Withering: publishes the first definitive account of the use of foxglove (digitalis) for treating dropsy
• 1787 – Jacques Charles: Charles' law of ideal gas
• 1789 – Antoine Lavoisier: law of conservation of mass, basis for chemistry, and the beginning of modern chemistry
• 1796 – Georges Cuvier: Establishes extinction as a fact
• 1796 – Edward Jenner: small pox historical accounting
• 1796 – Hanaoka Seishū: develops general anaesthesia
• 1800 – Alessandro Volta: discovers electrochemical series and invents the battery
• 1800 – William Herschel discovers infrared radiation.

19th century -

• 1802 – Jean-Baptiste Lamarck: teleological evolution
• 1805 – John Dalton: Atomic Theory in (Chemistry)
• 1820 – Hans Christian Ørsted discovers that a current passed through a wire will deflect the needle of a compass, establishing a deep relationship between electricity and magnetism (electromagnetism).
• 1821 – Thomas Johann Seebeck is the first to observe a property of semiconductors.
• 1824 – Carnot: described the Carnot cycle, the idealized heat engine
• 1827 – Georg Ohm: Ohm's law (Electricity)
• 1827 – Amedeo Avogadro: Avogadro's law (Gas law)
• 1828 – Friedrich Wöhler synthesized urea, destroying vitalism
• 1830 - Nikolai Lobachevsky created Non-Euclidean geometry
• 1831 – Michael Faraday discovers electromagnetic induction
• 1833 – Anselme Payen isolates first enzyme, diastase
• 1838 – Matthias Schleiden: all plants are made of cells
• 1838 – Friedrich Bessel: first successful measure of stellar parallax (to star 61 Cygni)
• 1842 – Christian Doppler: Doppler effect
• 1843 – James Prescott Joule: Law of Conservation of energy (First law of thermodynamics), also 1847 – Helmholtz, Conservation of energy
• 1846 – Johann Gottfried Galle and Heinrich Louis d'Arrest: discovery of Neptune
• 1848 – Lord Kelvin: absolute zero
• 1858 – Rudolf Virchow: cells can only arise from pre-existing cells
• 1859 – Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace: Theory of evolution by natural selection
• 1861 - Louis Pasteur: Germ theory
• 1861 - John Tyndall: Experiments in Radiant Energy that reinforced the Greenhouse Effect
• 1864 – James Clerk Maxwell: Theory of electromagnetism
• 1865 – Gregor Mendel: Mendel's laws of inheritance, basis for genetics
• 1865 – Rudolf Clausius: Definition of Entropy
• 1869 – Dmitri Mendeleev: Periodic table
• 1871 – Lord Rayleigh: Diffuse sky radiation (Rayleigh scattering) explains why sky appears blue
• 1873 – Johannes Diderik van der Waals: was one of the first to postulate an intermolecular force: the van der Waals force.
• 1873 – Frederick Guthrie discovers thermionic emission.
• 1873 - Willoughby Smith discovers photoconductivity.
• 1875 – William Crookes invented the Crookes tube and studied cathode rays
• 1876 – Josiah Willard Gibbs founded chemical thermodynamics, the phase rule
• 1877 – Ludwig Boltzmann: Statistical definition of entropy
• 1880 – Pierre Curie and Jacques Curie: Piezoelectricity
• 1884 – Jacobus Henricus van 't Hoff: discovered the laws of chemical dynamics and osmotic pressure in solutions (in his work "Etudes de dynamique chimique").
• 1887 – Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley: lack of evidence for the aether
• 1888 – Friedrich Reinitzer discovers liquid crystals.
• 1892 – Dmitri Ivanovsky discovers for the first time a virus
• 1895 – Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen discovers x-rays
• 1896 – Henri Becquerel discovers radioactivity
• 1896 - Svante Arrhenius derives the basic principles of the greenhouse effect.
• 1897 – J.J. Thomson discovers the electron in cathode rays
• 1898 – Martinus Beijerinck: concluded a virus infectious—replicating in the host—and thus not a mere toxin and gave it the name 'virus
• 1898 – J.J. Thomson proposed the Plum pudding model of an atom
• 1898 – Marie Curie discovers polonium, radium, and coins the term "radioactivity"
• 1900 – Max Planck: Planck's law of black body radiation, basis for quantum theory

This is where the shit gets REALLY interesting.
20th century -

• 1905 – Albert Einstein: theory of special relativity, explanation of Brownian motion, and photoelectric effect
• 1906 – Walther Nernst: Third law of thermodynamics
• 1907 – Alfred Bertheim: Arsphenamine, the first modern chemotherapeutic agent
• 1909 – Fritz Haber: Haber Process for industrial production of ammonia
• 1909 – Robert Andrews Millikan: conducts the oil drop experiment and determines the charge on an electron
• 1911 – Ernest Rutherford: Atomic nucleus
• 1911 – Heike Kamerlingh Onnes: Superconductivity
• 1912 – Alfred Wegener: Continental drift
• 1912 – Max von Laue : x-ray diffraction
• 1913 – Henry Moseley: defined atomic number
• 1913 – Niels Bohr: Model of the atom
• 1915 – Albert Einstein: theory of general relativity – also David Hilbert
• 1915 – Karl Schwarzschild: discovery of the Schwarzschild radius leading to the identification of black holes
• 1918 – Emmy Noether: Noether's theorem – conditions under which the conservation laws are valid
• 1920 – Arthur Eddington: Stellar nucleosynthesis
• 1922 – Frederick Banting, Charles Best, James Collip, John Macleod: isolation and production of insulin to control diabetes
• 1924 – Wolfgang Pauli: quantum Pauli exclusion principle
• 1924 – Edwin Hubble: the discovery that the Milky Way is just one of many galaxies
• 1925 – Erwin Schrödinger: Schrödinger equation (Quantum mechanics)
• 1925 – Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin: Discovery of the composition of the Sun and that Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe
• 1927 – Werner Heisenberg: Uncertainty principle (Quantum mechanics)
• 1927 – Georges Lemaître: Theory of the Big Bang
• 1928 – Paul Dirac: Dirac equation (Quantum mechanics)
• 1929 – Edwin Hubble: Hubble's law of the expanding universe
• 1928 – Alexander Fleming: Penicillin, the first beta-lactam antibiotic
• 1929 – Lars Onsager's reciprocal relations, a potential fourth law of thermodynamics
• 1932 – James Chadwick: Discovery of the neutron
• 1934 – Clive McCay: Calorie restriction extends the maximum lifespan of another species
• 1938 – Otto Hahn, Lise Meitner and Fritz Strassmann: Nuclear fission
• 1938 – Isidor Rabi: Nuclear magnetic resonance
• 1943 – Oswald Avery proves that DNA is the genetic material of the chromosome
• 1945 - Howard Florey Mass production of penicillin
• 1947 – William Shockley, John Bardeen and Walter Brattain invent the first transistor
• 1948 – Claude Elwood Shannon: 'A mathematical theory of communication' a seminal paper in Information theory.
• 1948 – Richard Feynman, Julian Schwinger, Sin-Itiro Tomonaga and Freeman Dyson: Quantum electrodynamics
• 1951 – George Otto Gey propagates first cancer cell line, HeLa
• 1952 – Jonas Salk: developed and tested first polio vaccine
• 1953 – Crick and Watson: helical structure of DNA, basis for molecular biology
• 1963 – Lawrence Morley, Fred Vine, and Drummond Matthews: Paleomagnetic stripes in ocean crust as evidence of plate tectonics (Vine-Matthews-Morley hypothesis).
• 1964 – Murray Gell-Mann and George Zweig: postulates quarks leading to the standard model
• 1964 – Arno Penzias and Robert Woodrow Wilson: detection of CMBR providing experimental evidence for the Big Bang
• 1965 – Leonard Hayflick: normal cells divide only a certain number of times: the Hayflick limit
• 1967 – Jocelyn Bell Burnell and Antony Hewish discover first pulsar
• 1971 – Place cells in the brain are discovered by John O'Keefe
• 1983 – Kary Mullis invents the polymerase chain reaction, a key discovery in molecular biology.
• 1986 – Karl Müller and Johannes Bednorz: Discovery of High-temperature superconductivity
• 1994 - Andrew Wiles proves Fermat's Last Theorem
• 1995 – Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz definitively observe the first extrasolar planet around a main sequence star
• 1995 - Eric Cornell, Carl Wieman and Wolfgang Ketterle attained the first Bose-Einstein Condensate with atomic gases, so called fifth state of matter at an extremely low temperature.
• 1996 – Roslin Institute: Dolly the sheep was cloned.[6]
• 1997 – CDF and DØ experiments at Fermilab: Top quark.
• 1998 – Supernova Cosmology Project and the High-Z Supernova Search Team: discovery of the accelerated expansion of the Universe / Dark Energy.
• 2000 – The Tau neutrino is discovered by the DONUT collaboration

21st century -

• 2001 – The first draft of the Human Genome Project is published.
• 2003 - Grigori Perelman presents proof of the Poincaré Conjecture.
• 2005 – Grid cells in the brain are discovered by Edvard Moser and May-Britt Moser.
• 2006 - Shinya Yamanaka generates first induced pluripotent stem cells
• 2010 – J. Craig Venter Institute creates the first synthetic genome for a bacterial cell.[7]
• 2010 - The Neanderthal Genome Project presented preliminary genetic evidence that interbreeding did likely take place and that a small but significant portion of Neanderthal admixture is present in modern non-African populations.[citation needed]
• 2012 - Higgs boson is discovered at CERN (confirmed to 99.999% certainty)
• 2012 - Photonic molecules are discovered at MIT
• 2014 - Exotic hadrons are discovered at the LHCb
• 2015 - Kepler 438b discovered to have similar Earth-like properties
• 2015 - Traces of liquid water discovered on Mars[8]
• 2016 - The LIGO team detected gravitational waves from a black hole merger.
• 2016 - Potentially habitable exoplanet Proxima B discovered around Proxima Centauri.

Me? yea, I want science to be the driving force behind education, not some holy book that's been edited, re-edited, transcribed, edited again, transcribed, all coming from word of mouth to begin with.
Call me crazy, but tangible facts supercede religious myths

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

^ You do realize that the New England Primer was only taken out of schools in the late 1940s, correct?

Judging by your post it appears not.

my point stands, science > religion.

And I'm having trouble tracking down exactly which schools used it in the 1940's.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

My niece went to a charter school, she graduated College with honors, interned for several different corporations and is now well employed. She had the choice to attend a charter school and she took it. Union teachers wanted to stop her choice and prevent her from getting a better education.Screw them. If DeVos increases school choice and it pisses off the union thugs i'm all for it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

My niece went to a charter school, she graduated College with honors, interned for several different corporations and is now well employed. She had the choice to attend a charter school and she took it. Union teachers wanted to stop her choice and prevent her from getting a better education.Screw them. If DeVos increases school choice and it pisses off the union thugs i'm all for it.

yea, cause 1 example is enough for anyone to have a fair and balanced view!
ffs tajjy, you're not even making an effort now.

 

[Homerboy]

Well, seeing how the general state of education has declined undeniably over the past 30 years, apparently putting educated morons doesn't work any better than uneducated morons. We'll see what she's able to get done. Hopefully start cracking the monopoly the NEA and other groups have over education.

Yeah -- that doesn't have anything to do with the constant defundning of schools.

 

[Homerboy]

My niece went to a charter school, she graduated College with honors, interned for several different corporations and is now well employed. She had the choice to attend a charter school and she took it. Union teachers wanted to stop her choice and prevent her from getting a better education.Screw them. If DeVos increases school choice and it pisses off the union thugs i'm all for it.

My kids went to charter schools as well.
And I still see this as a HORRIBLE choice that's been made.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

^ You do realize that the New England Primer was only taken out of schools in the late 1940s, correct?

Judging by your post it appears not.

http://www.answers.com/Q/When_was_the_New_England_Primer_removed_from_Public_School

Yea, um... so a single answer is validation? No, sorry.

And I'd rather children learn facts than this tripe

Who was the first man ?Adam.
Who was the first woman ?Eve.
Who was the first Murderer ?Cain.
Who was the first Martyr ?Abel.
Who was the first Translated ?Enoch.
Who was the oldest Man ?Methuselah.
Who built the Ark ?Noah.
Who was the Patientest Man ?Job.
Who was the Meekest Man ?Moses.
Who led Israel into Canaan ?Joshua.
Who was the strongest Man ?Sampson.
Who killed Goliah ?David.
Who was the wisest Man ?Soloman.
Who was in the Whale's Belly?Jonah.
Who saves lost Men ?Jesus Christ.
Who is Jesus Christ ?The Son of God.
Who was the Mother of Christ ?Mary.
Who betrayed his Master ?Judas.
Who denied his Master ?Peter.
Who was the first Christian Martyr?Stephen.
Who was chief Apostle of the Gentiles ?Saul.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Your point does not stand when every person on that list at least up until 1920 started school with The New England Primer. And yes, Americans were the most educated in those times.

can you prove that?

 

[MongGrel]

YEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWW!

I grew up a Redneck, and this shit is way out the window.

 

[umbrella39]

Your point does not stand when every person on that list at least up until 1920 started school with The New England Primer. And yes, Americans were the most educated in the world in those times.

Oh yeahhhh!!!! Another boring and predictable sissy ALT to plonk....

 

[ElFenix]

However when "The New England Primer" was a staple in public schools, The US had the best education system in the world.

proof that the US ever had the best education system in the world?

 

[kage69]

Can't have those kids learning about evolution, science, or who Frederick Douglas was, now can we? Too much education and they won't vote R!

Way to go Dump. You got someone in office who is almost as clueless as you are.

I weep for the future.

 

[ch33zw1z]

proof that the US ever had the best education system in the world?

Tumplers = If we say it enough...it must be true.

 

[Grooveriding]

Good strategy from Trump. Uneducated creationists are the bread and butter of the Republican party.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Good strategy from Trump. Uneducated creationists are the bread and butter of the Republican party.

this, so much this.

 

[Homerboy]

Can't have those kids learning about evolution, science, or who Frederick Douglas was, now can we? Too much education and they won't vote R!

Why are you speaking of him in past tense?

 

[Thump553]

Next time someone complains that the Democrats are being rigid and unreasonable (especially regarding the Supreme Court nomination) point out this vote. The fact that only two of 51 GOP Senators broke rank on such an unqualified candidate shows two things: (1) they are the party of no compromise, no flexibility and (2) in today's political environment sticking together, even on such a horrible idea, is the only way to get anything you want.

I hope the Dems are watching and learning. Get some stones!

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

That one's a bit tougher. Can you prove the assertion wrong? Okay, tell me what country you think had the best education system between 1800 and 1950.


The Chinese were still using sticks and flintlocks. Japanese and Germans, possible rivals.

What do you think?

Sweden, they were smart enough to stay out of the world's largest armed conflicts during that time period.

 

[vi edit]

Yeah -- that doesn't have anything to do with the constant defundning of schools.

Or shitty parenting.

 

[MongGrel]

That one's a bit tougher. Can you prove the assertion wrong? Okay, tell me what country you think had the best education system between 1800 and 1950.


The Chinese were still using sticks and flintlocks. Japanese and Germans, possible rivals.

What do you think?

I think you should realize the 50's were 67 years ago, and there was no internet.