DeVos confirmed as Ed Secretary

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PokerGuy

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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.
 
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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.
like ramming an unqualified person down the public's throat. but do go on...
 

senseamp

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This is one nominee that I'm not sure what the big deal is about. I feel like democrats are wasting their time blocking inconsequential self-enriching corrupt cronies like Davos when they could be blocking slimy neo-fascist scum like Sessions or manipulative criminals like Price.
Davos is stupid but in all fairness so are most american children. We're a big, dumb nation. Davos isn't gonna make us that much dumber.

People care a lot about their kids education. Making a big deal about DeVos lets Democrats hammer Republicans who voted for her for any and all of her failures as secretary of education, especially since every single one of them was a deciding vote and had the power to stop her. Primarily it will benefit them in Nevada against Dean Heller. I am not sure why McConnell didn't try to get Murkowski to flip to allow Heller to vote against DeVos, since she just won a re-election and is in a safe Republican state, while Heller is up in 2018 in an increasingly Democratic state.
 

PokerGuy

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People care a lot about their kids education. Making a big deal about DeVos lets Democrats hammer Republicans who voted for her for any and all of her failures as secretary of education, especially since every single one of them was a deciding vote and had the power to stop her. Primarily it will benefit them in Nevada against Dean Heller. I am not sure why McConnell didn't try to get Murkowski to flip to allow Heller to vote against DeVos, since she just won a re-election and is in a safe Republican state, while Heller is up in 2018 in an increasingly Democratic state.

Yeah, because giving people the choice of where to send their kids to school is such a horrible thing to do, I'm sure voters will just recoil in horror.
 

PokerGuy

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They already had a choice, lol.

They did? Unless you have a lot of money, it's not a choice. Giving people actual choices is a good thing, unless you support a terrible choice and are afraid of people choosing something else.
 

ch33zw1z

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Serious question? dude, you spend more time posting than just googling it.
 

dainthomas

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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.

People are really still buying into the "drain the swamp" line after he nominated Goldman Sachs guy to Treasury? Adorable.

I'll give her a point for at least knowing what the Department of Education is. Perry certainly couldn't say that about Energy.
 
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nakedfrog

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So, they just confirmed for SecEd a person who wants to destroy the American public school system and replace it with a voucher system which demonstrably did not work in her home state, who has no understanding of what the job entails, and little understanding of education in general. Her desire to promote Creationism and religion in public schools and her lying about the success of virtual schools.

Interesting...I guess sticking it to the "liberals" is apparently all that matters. *sigh*
Confirmed.
Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.
Also, hm, aren't you pro-life?
Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.
 

Commodus

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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.

It's because we believe in the radical notion of politicians being qualified for the tasks they're assigned to do. Being an outsider only matters if you know what you're doing. DeVos, like Trump, doesn't; her qualifications are "donated a lot of money to the GOP" and "wants to privatize everything."

Tell you what: if you really believe that knowledge doesn't matter, let's put you in a bomber and have you take out some ISIS targets. You probably don't know how to fly a combat aircraft and are more likely to kill civilians than your intended targets, but surely your will to take out ISIS will make you better than any veteran bomber pilot, right?
 
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https://muslimstatistics.wordpress....half-a-millions-women-sex-attacked-in-a-year/

Yeah, the Swedish Bikini Team has armed guards to fight off refugee rapists.

Okay that's hyperbole , but not far from the truth.

They've taken in too many Muslim refugees and now they're screwed.

The only thing that will save them now is a civil war and killing Muslims or outside intervention.

Stick a fork in them, they're done.

"They're
not doing too shabby" Pwhahahaha! Pull your head out of the sand. I have many more links to back up up my assertion. I know what's going on. Apparently you are not as informed.

What do they have to blame for it? Liberal government and immigration policies.

LOL
From the aforementioned link "About"
This blog
Derpity do.
 

IronWing

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All up for re-election in 2018 and voted for DeVos

Flake - Arizona
Wicker - Mississippi
Fischer - Nebraska
Heller - Nevada
Corker - Tennessee
Cruz - Texas
Hatch - Utah
Barrasso - Wyoming
Flake is no danger on this issue. Arizona has been at the forefront of destroying society. The Gov is pushing for vouchers for everybody.
 

PokerGuy

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Also, hm, aren't you pro-life?

Uh, no. As a libertarian I don't think government should decide what someone wants to do with their own body. That's a whole other thread though.

As far as school choices go, giving people options on where to send their kids is a good thing, no matter how much the union and lefties squeal and cry. If you provide the best learning environment, why would you be concerned about people having a choice in where to send their kid to school?

I have yet to hear anyone articulate any reason why giving people choices is a bad thing. Sounds an awful lot like the cable company telling customers choices are really bad, that they are better off with just one option.
 

MongGrel

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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

Giving people choices is a good thing. The only people that hate choice are the ones who want to force you into supporting their crap choice.

You seem to be a product of a failed education to begin with to be blunt about it, and do not care if it declines more.
 

nakedfrog

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Uh, no. As a libertarian I don't think government should decide what someone wants to do with their own body. That's a whole other thread though.

As far as school choices go, giving people options on where to send their kids is a good thing, no matter how much the union and lefties squeal and cry. If you provide the best learning environment, why would you be concerned about people having a choice in where to send their kid to school?
All you care is that "the opposition" doesn't like her and that's good enough for you, the charter school situation is more complicated than "choice".
 

MongGrel

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Betsy Devos is going to extract all Communist indoctrination methods from public schools.

(Eventually)

At first she'll make sure kids start getting an un-indoctrinated education immediately via vouchers and all that.

I'm surprised you have been around here for 71 posts.
 

Commodus

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Uh, no. As a libertarian I don't think government should decide what someone wants to do with their own body. That's a whole other thread though.

As far as school choices go, giving people options on where to send their kids is a good thing, no matter how much the union and lefties squeal and cry. If you provide the best learning environment, why would you be concerned about people having a choice in where to send their kid to school?

I have yet to hear anyone articulate any reason why giving people choices is a bad thing. Sounds an awful lot like the cable company telling customers choices are really bad, that they are better off with just one option.

Simple answer: because giving people choices only helps if you don't cripple the existing choice in the process. The concern with DeVos isn't so much the voucher system as that public schools will very likely be neglected in the process, punishing lower-income families that can't afford to send kids to private schools.

Case in point: between 1999 and 2014, DeVos and her husband donated $8.6 million to private Christian schools. Public schools? Less than $60,000. You see why many in education are worried? There's a good chance DeVos will not only starve the public education system, but prioritize Christian private schools over secular ones.
 

MrPickins

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Seeing all the lefties raging and going ape over the DeVos nomination makes it very clear she must be right choice. A lot of you seem to think lack of experience or background int he current mess of a system is a negative. It's a positive. That's part of draining the swamp.

You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with our political system.


I realize it kills you to see an opposing opinion grounded in reality.

LOL "reality"
 
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