Dexter tonight. Season Finale.

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IceBergSLiM

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I still find the placement of the baby in the pool of blood odd.. very similar to how Dexter was found. Also, disturbed by Dexter's lack of emotion when he found Rita. My hunch is that Deb killed Rita..

Oh, Christina Cox will be on the next season of 24!

thats preposterous.
 

techs

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My hunch is that Deb killed Rita..

Oh, Christina Cox will be on the next season of 24!

thats preposterous.

It would make an interesting plot twist. Debra knew about Dexters killings as he grew up and resented her fathers attention to Dexter so Debra tried killing things too, and ended up liking it.
And maybe Masuka told Deb that Rita kissed the neighbor, and it was payback.

Would Dexter kill Debra if she were a murderer?


Oh, and Katee Sackhoff will also be on 24.
 

IceBergSLiM

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It would make an interesting plot twist. Debra knew about Dexters killings as he grew up and resented her fathers attention to Dexter so Debra tried killing things too, and ended up liking it.
And maybe Masuka told Deb that Rita kissed the neighbor, and it was payback.

Would Dexter kill Debra if she were a murderer?


Oh, and Katee Sackhoff will also be on 24.

You can count me out of the show if they make that ridiculous leap. Deb is not a killer. She lacks the confidence, the motive, the negative emotions. If anyone was a candidate to be killed it was trinity daughter. This is completely ludicrous.
 

techs

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It would make an interesting plot twist. Debra knew about Dexters killings as he grew up and resented her fathers attention to Dexter so Debra tried killing things too, and ended up liking it.
And maybe Masuka told Deb that Rita kissed the neighbor, and it was payback.

Would Dexter kill Debra if she were a murderer?


Oh, and Katee Sackhoff will also be on 24.

You can count me out of the show if they make that ridiculous leap. Deb is not a killer. She lacks the confidence, the motive, the negative emotions. If anyone was a candidate to be killed it was trinity daughter. This is completely ludicrous.

The idea that Trinity killed Rita is just assumed.
However, the writers did put in some interesting stuff.

1) Trinity never said he killed Rita
2) Rita shared a kiss with the neighbor which might set a crazy person who was Dexters friend ballistic.
3) I didn't catch Lithgow on the short discussion afterwards saying Trinity killed Rita.

So, who could have killed Rita other than Trinity?

Masuka? He works closely with Dex. And Dex may be his only friend. And he saw the kiss. Plus Masuka is in the best position to know about Dexter since they work in similiar fields together. And Masuka is a forensics specialist. Maybe Masuka figured out what Dex is? In the finale Masuka pointed out he was smarter than everyone else. Is that because he figured out Dexter?
 
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Legendary

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The idea that Trinity killed Rita is just assumed.
However, the writers did put in some interesting stuff.

1) Trinity never said he killed Rita
2) Rita shared a kiss with the neighbor which might set a crazy person who was Dexters friend ballistic.
3) I didn't catch Lithgow on the short discussion afterwards saying Trinity killed Rita.

So, who could have killed Rita other than Trinity?

Masuka? He works closely with Dex. And Dex may be his only friend. And he saw the kiss. Plus Masuka is in the best position to know about Dexter since they work in similiar fields together. And Masuka is a forensics specialist. Maybe Masuka figured out what Dex is? In the finale Masuka pointed out he was smarter than everyone else. Is that because he figured out Dexter?

In this interview: http://www.buzzfocus.com/2009/12/14/michael-c-hall-and-john-lithgow-discuss-dexter-finale/

The first line is Lithgow saying 'Trinity's handywork'

Don't know how it could be much clearer than that
 
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I still find the placement of the baby in the pool of blood odd.. very similar to how Dexter was found. Also, disturbed by Dexter's lack of emotion when he found Rita. My hunch is that Deb killed Rita..

Oh, Christina Cox will be on the next season of 24!

Are you guys serial killers? Seriously, "we want him to kill more, so glad Rita's out of the way!" or "His sister, who never has expressed violent tendencies and loves her family very much, is the killer!"

This show isn't about blood lust, it's about the symbiosis of darkness and light, of love and hate, etc. etc. It would be so utterly boring if Dexter just killed people without the constant struggle. See SAW 9 if just just want blood..
 

IceBergSLiM

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The idea that Trinity killed Rita is just assumed.
However, the writers did put in some interesting stuff.

1) Trinity never said he killed Rita
2) Rita shared a kiss with the neighbor which might set a crazy person who was Dexters friend ballistic.
3) I didn't catch Lithgow on the short discussion afterwards saying Trinity killed Rita.

So, who could have killed Rita other than Trinity?

Masuka? He works closely with Dex. And Dex may be his only friend. And he saw the kiss. Plus Masuka is in the best position to know about Dexter since they work in similiar fields together. And Masuka is a forensics specialist. Maybe Masuka figured out what Dex is? In the finale Masuka pointed out he was smarter than everyone else. Is that because he figured out Dexter?

Thats better than deb but still flimsy on motive. Also the killing was way to sloppy for masuka. Blood everywhere. The most important thing was the killer did it in front of the baby....I don't think deb nor masuka would have that kind of malice. I agree it wasn't definitive in it being Trinity though.
 
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You can count me out of the show if they make that ridiculous leap. Deb is not a killer. She lacks the confidence, the motive, the negative emotions. If anyone was a candidate to be killed it was trinity daughter. This is completely ludicrous.

I'm with you - I'd stop watching if Deb was the killer. Deb is an interesting character - as gruff as she is, she plays by the rules and respects the law (enough so that she'd risk her life for what she views as right). Lundy was equally noble, and the surface image of Harry was that. Dexter was the confused offspring of violence/psychotic tendencies and that Morgan nobility (that "do the right thing, or a version of the right thing"). Debs the moral center of the show and,without it, the show would be as exploitative as Desperate Housewives.
 

slayer202

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Are you guys serial killers? Seriously, "we want him to kill more, so glad Rita's out of the way!" or "His sister, who never has expressed violent tendencies and loves her family very much, is the killer!"

This show isn't about blood lust, it's about the symbiosis of darkness and light, of love and hate, etc. etc. It would be so utterly boring if Dexter just killed people without the constant struggle. See SAW 9 if just just want blood..

I agree. I thought rita's character was annoying and its always a pain when shes calling dexter in the middle of shit, but thats part of what makes the show good. the WANT you to feel that pain that dexter gets when he gets those phone calls. not sure why they listened to people and killed her off
 

Adrenaline

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Around 5:15 or so in that talk he was talking about changing from comedy to being evil, I remember him fondly in Ricochet and how he was in that.
 

sygyzy

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The boy that Dexter rescued was the start and then Rita was next. Trinity's cycle.

No, the boy they found decomposing at the build site is the first. The boy that Dexter rescued didn't die so he wasn't the start. Rita was second. I wonder if Arthur was driving to #3 and #4 or we'll find their bodies in Season 5.
 

Adrenaline

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No, the boy they found decomposing at the build site is the first. The boy that Dexter rescued didn't die so he wasn't the start. Rita was second. I wonder if Arthur was driving to #3 and #4 or we'll find their bodies in Season 5.

I thought that was a different build site since they said the body was decomposed and smelled really bad (which should mean the boy had been there longer than a day). Either way there was the first person and then Rita.

I still do not see how Arthur had time to kill Rita. He got all his family's stuff, had to sell it, get his car and pack the stuff he needed. His quest to flee did not start at 4 AM.
 
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I thought that was a different build site since they said the body was decomposed and smelled really bad (which should mean the boy had been there longer than a day). Either way there was the first person and then Rita.

I still do not see how Arthur had time to kill Rita. He got all his family's stuff, had to sell it, get his car and pack the stuff he needed. His quest to flee did not start at 4 AM.

Arthur had time to do all of those things plus kill Rita because it's a TV show.
 

techs

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I thought that was a different build site since they said the body was decomposed and smelled really bad (which should mean the boy had been there longer than a day). Either way there was the first person and then Rita.

I still do not see how Arthur had time to kill Rita. He got all his family's stuff, had to sell it, get his car and pack the stuff he needed. His quest to flee did not start at 4 AM.
There's also the question as to how Dexter managed to show up at Trinity's car when it broke down.
Maybe we will learn more next season about how the ending to this one went down?
 

IceBergSLiM

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I thought that was a different build site since they said the body was decomposed and smelled really bad (which should mean the boy had been there longer than a day). Either way there was the first person and then Rita.

I still do not see how Arthur had time to kill Rita. He got all his family's stuff, had to sell it, get his car and pack the stuff he needed. His quest to flee did not start at 4 AM.

It was a diff build site confirming the theory of the boy starting the cycle.

The whole time dex was trying to figure out where trinity was going to escape to(ie during the raid at trinity's house) trinity had the time he need to get to dexs house.
 

sygyzy

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I thought that was a different build site since they said the body was decomposed and smelled really bad (which should mean the boy had been there longer than a day). Either way there was the first person and then Rita.

I still do not see how Arthur had time to kill Rita. He got all his family's stuff, had to sell it, get his car and pack the stuff he needed. His quest to flee did not start at 4 AM.

http://www.ustream.tv/showtime

I am listening to an interview with John Lithgow here and around 27:00 he says [about being on Dexter's death table]:

"...he knew that he had already taken his revenge on Dexter. He killed Dexter's wife and Dexter didn't know it yet. There are moments of suppressed glee"
 

DangerAardvark

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Rita's killing fits in with Dexter being seen (and probably caught on camera) talking to Trinity at the police department. He can spin that as Trinity gathering intel for his next kill.
 

bob4432

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Someone also suggested there are headlights that pull off behind Arthur. I can review the video tonight.

just re-watched that part - no additional headlights, in fact it looks like dexter does get out of the car
 

lyssword

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I just don't see how dexter show can come back from the shit they just pulled. Rita was the second most important character after dexter, wheter you like her or not you can't deny that.
 

sygyzy

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lyssword - I have to disagree. I think the order is Dexter, Masuke, THEN Rita.



*See I can play crazy too.
 

UberNeuman

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I find myself mildly bothered by what they didn't show - Rita's death...

It's said that what isn't shown can be worse than showing it, and I think of her in the tub with Trinity, knowing she's going to die, as her baby sits crying nearby... For me, just thinking of it makes it me a bit horrified...

There's been a few rough spots this season, but the final episode really made up for it...
 

PottedMeat

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I think we can all agree there should be more Masuka.

Masuka: I got a reputation to live up to. I mean if my show does not make people vomit and have an erection at the same time then I've let my audience down.

I don't think the writers have found a way to make Quinn fit in, he just seems awkward. Hopefully they won't turn him into a crappy Doakes.
 
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