Dexter tonight. Season Finale.

[sygyzy]

I agree. I hate Quinn. He's like the stereotypical DB's my college age roommates date.

 

[bob4432]

I just don't see how dexter show can come back from the shit they just pulled. Rita was the second most important character after dexter, wheter you like her or not you can't deny that.

nah, i think rita got in the way and now w/ his sister knowing who his brother was, quinn gunning for him and w/ rita turning up dead, i think it has really opened up for a lot of interesting roads the writers can take.

 

[ChanHo78]

She wasn't a lesbian in Dexter...

all lady cops are lesbians... don't you know this?? 100%

 

[gigahertz20]

Wow, can't believe they killed off Rita. Finally just watched the season finale episode, I saw this thread on sunday but didn't want to view it until I got done watching it since I knew there would be spoilers.


For a season finale, they should have shown and explained more.

-How did Dexter hop in the drunk of Arthur's car and pop out to inject him?
-How did Arthur have time to kill Rita?
-Where did Arthur get Dexter's home address? Possibly when he was at Deborah's apartment?



I'm wondering if the end was just a dream sequence and Rita is not actually dead. The way Dexter was having flash backs and everything made me kind of wonder. Plus, Arthur/Trinity Killer never completed the 1st killing in his cycle. He always kills a 10 year old boy then kills a woman in a bathtub, he never killed that 10 year old boy so maybe he just decided to skip the 1st part of the cycle?


I really do not want to wait until next season to find out the answers, fuck this show. I should just wait until a whole season is complete before watching the 1st episode that way I can watch them all at once and not wonder whats going to happen next.

 

[Zebo]

Wow, can't believe they killed off Rita. Finally just watched the season finale episode, I saw this thread on sunday but didn't want to view it until I got done watching it since I knew there would be spoilers.


For a season finale, they should have shown and explained more.

-How did Dexter hop in the drunk of Arthur's car and pop out to inject him?
-How did Arthur have time to kill Rita?
-Where did Arthur get Dexter's home address? Possibly when he was at Deborah's apartment?



I'm wondering if the end was just a dream sequence and Rita is not actually dead. The way Dexter was having flash backs and everything made me kind of wonder. Plus, Arthur/Trinity Killer never completed the 1st killing in his cycle. He always kills a 10 year old boy then kills a woman in a bathtub, he never killed that 10 year old boy so maybe he just decided to skip the 1st part of the cycle?


I really do not want to wait until next season to find out the answers, fuck this show. I should just wait until a whole season is complete before watching the 1st episode that way I can watch them all at once and not wonder whats going to happen next.

Good theories. Very good. Hadnt thought about his dreaming...

And LOL @ can't standing tension. I just watched ep 1 and 12 yesterday. Will fill in gaps later but I didn't start season 4 till all was out for that reason. Crazy show. Can't believe they left a cliff hanger though.

What's going to happen with her 3 kids? More I think about it , you're probably right, she isn't dead just another Dexter freaky dream..

 

[Zebo]

lyssword - I have to disagree. I think the order is Dexter, Masuke, THEN Rita.



*See I can play crazy too.

Masuke is nobody but slap stick.

Dexter>Deb>Rita>Dad>Cops>Masuke>elevator

 

[McCarthy]

What are they suggesting with this imagery?

 

[seemingly random]

What are they suggesting with this imagery?
...

Yeah, I thought that wall display was a bit contrived. Looks like something I've seen in movies with a poor rural mexico setting. Maybe the writers are suggesting something. Dexter is our saviour...

 

[seemingly random]

Good theories. Very good. Hadnt thought about his dreaming...

And LOL @ can't standing tension. I just watched ep 1 and 12 yesterday. Will fill in gaps later but I didn't start season 4 till all was out for that reason. Crazy show. Can't believe they left a cliff hanger though.

What's going to happen with her 3 kids? More I think about it , you're probably right, she isn't dead just another Dexter freaky dream..

They could be written off easily to the grandparents although one of the kids is Dexter's. Or Deb could move into a mother/caretaker role. After Christine turned out to be Trinity's daughter, anything is possible with this show.

 

[bob4432]

watch the interview - http://www.ustream.tv/showtime it explains a lot, unless the interview is not real and he is in fact reading from answers given to him by the writers, which i don't think is impossible. it is about an hour long, but explains a lot of questions/theories you guys are tossing around about "what trinity was thinking" when we weren't being shown what he was actually doing.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

I love all the "OH MAN HOW IS DEXTER GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS ONE?" posts. Dexter's writers are his guardian angels and each season provides a new deus ex machina that allows him to skate out unscathed, tying up or ignoring all loose ends. Sorry, but this is not a "smart" show.

Dexter's Dad has been right all season -- the family has really gotten in the way, mostly of the audience's entertainment. Go back and rewatch the first episodes of season 1 before Dexter was saddled with Rita and the kids. The show was fresh and creepy.

Now it just feels flat to me, the same ol', same ol': slimeball gets away with something, Dexter comes up with an excuse to leave work / home, Dexter paralyzes the bad guy, says something droll and has a sudden realization about how important his family is, makes with the blood slide, stabby, bags in the water.

It really seems like the writers are struggling to come up with ways to throw wrenches into Dexter's plans, like "family member / work calls with an emergency" or, my favorite, "a car crash makes Dexter forget what he did with the body". Durr. That car crash would have been an awesome turning point had they actually found the dismembered body in the trunk. Okay, and every season, Dexter squares off against another serial killer or lunatic. The number of original, feasible distractions has dwindled.

Dexter would have made an awesome mini-series. But killing off Rita is the next best thing they could have done. I'm really hoping this will let the show get back to the zest of the first season so Dexter can drop this family man business, but I'm sure the kids are going to be his big anchor in season 5 and all the giveaways and ties to Trinity will be cleanly erased somehow.

 

[DangerAardvark]

I'll never look at John Lithgow the same way. It's creepy just watching him do the interview. I keep waiting for him to tell the interviewer to "shut up, wise and beautiful woman".

 

[Praxis1452]

watch the interview - http://www.ustream.tv/showtime it explains a lot, unless the interview is not real and he is in fact reading from answers given to him by the writers, which i don't think is impossible. it is about an hour long, but explains a lot of questions/theories you guys are tossing around about "what trinity was thinking" when we weren't being shown what he was actually doing.

It's over now I think, you must post a summary.

 

[slayer202]

any word on a new character next season? the last 2 seasons had big additions with smits and lithgow, both of which I didn't think I would enjoy but both did turn out very well and I liked both actors a lot.

 

[slackerinabox]

I love all the "OH MAN HOW IS DEXTER GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS ONE?" posts. Dexter's writers are his guardian angels and each season provides a new deus ex machina that allows him to skate out unscathed, tying up or ignoring all loose ends. Sorry, but this is not a "smart" show.

Dexter's Dad has been right all season -- the family has really gotten in the way, mostly of the audience's entertainment. Go back and rewatch the first episodes of season 1 before Dexter was saddled with Rita and the kids. The show was fresh and creepy.

Now it just feels flat to me, the same ol', same ol': slimeball gets away with something, Dexter comes up with an excuse to leave work / home, Dexter paralyzes the bad guy, says something droll and has a sudden realization about how important his family is, makes with the blood slide, stabby, bags in the water.

It really seems like the writers are struggling to come up with ways to throw wrenches into Dexter's plans, like "family member / work calls with an emergency" or, my favorite, "a car crash makes Dexter forget what he did with the body". Durr. That car crash would have been an awesome turning point had they actually found the dismembered body in the trunk. Okay, and every season, Dexter squares off against another serial killer or lunatic. The number of original, feasible distractions has dwindled.

Dexter would have made an awesome mini-series. But killing off Rita is the next best thing they could have done. I'm really hoping this will let the show get back to the zest of the first season so Dexter can drop this family man business, but I'm sure the kids are going to be his big anchor in season 5 and all the giveaways and ties to Trinity will be cleanly erased somehow.

I have to agree with you - worrying about loose ends is something internet forum people will do.. The writers? Nah, they don't seem to even look back a few episodes, let alone a season.

Dexter should be smart, meticulous, and cunning - his whole "keep trinity alive to see how he a killer could live unnoticed" was just bullshit and lazy writing, and betrays the smart character that Dexter is. It was a way to string out enough material for say one really good movie into an entire season.

Melissa Rosenberg, the lead writer for the past few seasons, is off making bank writing Twilight movies. The first season's show runner was definitely darker/smarter.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I have to agree with you - worrying about loose ends is something internet forum people will do.. The writers? Nah, they don't seem to even look back a few episodes, let alone a season.

Dexter should be smart, meticulous, and cunning - his whole "keep trinity alive to see how he a killer could live unnoticed" was just bullshit and lazy writing, and betrays the smart character that Dexter is. It was a way to string out enough material for say one really good movie into an entire season.

Melissa Rosenberg, the lead writer for the past few seasons, is off making bank writing Twilight movies. The first season's show runner was definitely darker/smarter.

The writers have dug themselves quite a hole here. The show is on a its final leg, teetering on a breaking point. The first episode of season 5 will definitely determine if many ppl continue with the show.

 

[Adrenaline]

The writers have dug themselves quite a hole here. The show is on a its final leg, teetering on a breaking point. The first episode of season 5 will definitely determine if many ppl continue with the show.

People will watch all of season 5 just to see how many people he kills and how he develops his interest in the bad guy while figuring out who he is.

 

[aircooled]

The creator of the show has in interview on the Showtime website were he says he wouldn't insult the audience by making it a dream.

 

[Adrenaline]

-How did Arthur have time to kill Rita?

This is my biggest problem with the finale. Arthur did not have the time to prep everything he does for his ritual. This is a serial killer that does things a certain way.

Late Morning - get everything from family to sell for cash
Early Afternoon - sell everything off running around to pay for mustang repairs
Late Afternoon - get to the place where the mustang is and pay for repairs (after having packed some things???)

Did I miss anything? I just do not see Arthur having the time. Regardless that this is tv the timeline is a major flaw.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

The writers have dug themselves quite a hole here. The show is on a its final leg, teetering on a breaking point. The first episode of season 5 will definitely determine if many ppl continue with the show.

The fact is, Dexter has never been the tight, cerebral show fans seems to think it is. The big plot points and dialogue have always been pretty preposterous and the pandering voiceovers, explaining every detail and motivation, totally remove the need for anyone to actually act.

The concept of Dexter is the draw, and the sympathetic serial killer motif is apparently a pretty deep well judging by the increasing popularity of the show. You can tell they're trying to expand the target demographics into more female territory by including more soapy relationship stuff, like Angel and LaGuerta, the dead-end Anton-Deb-Lundy triangle, the Quinn and Christine-the-reporter-slash-killer's-daughter goofiness, the whiff of an affair for Rita.

That last one got me thinking, though. I'm wondering now if something happened casting-wise around the time when they were writing the neighbor affair plotline because that fizzled very suddenly and now Rita's dead. Pure speculation, but I'm curious if the producers and writers realized how much her character was hated and only decided to axe her around then, or if Julie Benz pissed someone off. I can't really imagine she'd want to give up the role considering the snowballing popularity of the show. Or who knows, maybe some of the other posters are right and they'll pull the ol' "IT WAS JUST A DREAM!" fast one on us.

 

[slackerinabox]

The writers have dug themselves quite a hole here. The show is on a its final leg, teetering on a breaking point. The first episode of season 5 will definitely determine if many ppl continue with the show.

You're right. I personally don't get blood lust audience members (and think they're not in the norm). I don't care about body count, but do care about consistency, both plot wise and internally. We're supposed to believe that Dexter is so methodical and precise - he was trained by a detective! But he's always sloppy. Need tension? Have his annoying wife bother him about something! She wasn't written as much of a character and more like a plot device.. Dexter growing emotions? That's great... But how does that materialize? In voice overs of himself telling us he loves his baby and family, not in any really interesting plot manifestation (i.e. he never had to have compassion for a killer and balance his blood lust for sympathy, etc. etc.). Just "I reallly love my family.. " bah..

Plot threads drop constantly.. For example:
- The "innocent" artist whom he killed... This would be the 2nd time Dexter killed an innocent.

-Doakes: Laguerta constantly talks about finding the truth about what went down, yet they just dropped that quest.. Even after Doakes repeatedly and publicly called Dexter suspicious.

-Dexter flying to London to kill Lila - a little convenient how he knew exactly where to find one person? Not a little suspicious that she disappeared, was found murdered in London (or never found? does he have a kill shed in the UK?) while her ex-boyfriend took a trip to London the same time?

- Jimmy Smit's character plot line: no one notice that he's missing? He's a huge local celeb and was involved in a murder investigation, and his brother just died a mysterious death. Wouldn't it make sense to interview his admitted best friend?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

you know I've only ever watched the shows I've downloaded and I have forgotten that this is syndicated now. It makes sense that they are playing to the lowest common denominator now more than ever. Unfortunate.

 

[slackerinabox]

Biggest flaw of all - how many people directly connected to the Morgan family have died suspicious deaths or are now missing? How come no one in the entire police department notices this? Is that what season 5 will be about? My point is that Dexter brings way too much of his killing home. Befriending killers... Hanging out with his prey instead of.. You know.. Killing them.. Of course that sloppiness can be explained away, but it's still just really lazy writing

 

[techs]

That last one got me thinking, though. I'm wondering now if something happened casting-wise around the time when they were writing the neighbor affair plotline because that fizzled very suddenly and now Rita's dead. Pure speculation, but I'm curious if the producers and writers realized how much her character was hated and only decided to axe her around then, or if Julie Benz pissed someone off. I can't really imagine she'd want to give up the role considering the snowballing popularity of the show. Or who knows, maybe some of the other posters are right and they'll pull the ol' "IT WAS JUST A DREAM!" fast one on us.

I also thought the whole neighbor affair thing was weird the way they introduced it, then ended it so quickly. It didn't seem to have any reason for being there.

As to Julie Benz (Rita) I see she has been doing and will be doing movie work, so it's possible she was not averse to leaving, or wanted to leave.
Doing 12 epi's a year, and having whole epi's where she gets at most a couple of minutes of airtime is really not a major role. In fact, she may have been in the position to get serious money from movies and the Dexter show just couldn't pay her for what was screen time wise a limited role.

And, scarily, there is even some buzz there will be another Rambo movie and she will be in it.

 

[sygyzy]

CoinOperatedBoy - I think the show is very well written and they don't "cheat" to get out of loose ends. You're probably the only person I know that does not like the show. How do you feel about Lost?