DFI RD600

[LifeStealer]

I seriously don't understand why board prices are going up so fast. Inflation isn't going up that quickly I guess its the old economic rule of "If they will pay that for it, charge it."

 

[imported_situman]

If the final product was just shown privately with no final bios, we might see some previews beginning of Dec. From there, usually takes a couple of weeks of teasing to build up interest. WHen it becomes available...in limited quantities to hike up the price, stores will gouge even more. That will probably all happen within the first month, month and a half then prices slowly trickle down to still above MSRP levels for a couple of weeks. As demand tapers off and people are less crazy, prices will be much more reasonable in mid to end of January. Long long wait for these things. 250 for a mobo is the absolute limit I will pay. Boards like the Asus Striker Extreme are no better than some of their Intel offerings. It does not justify a 350 dollar sticker.

 

[Praxis1452]

well I'm waiting for this board since August. Now that my computer has died it's time for me to build a new one and I can't wait that much longer. I could wait had it not died.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: hardwareking
MSRP is $249.Not bad considering intel's bad-axe 2 is available at ewiz.com for $252.
I can't wait to see how this performs.Can't really wait much longer too.Hopefully it'll come on sale before christmas.

As we have found out this summer, MSRP means nothing for the first month. Pricing is based on EAPS (early adopter pricing syndrome) now. We have not seen the final BIOS yet but performance is very good on the current beta. Since this launch is extremely important for DFI, Oskar is not releasing the BIOS until "it is ready". It should be soon because we really want to show it and let the readers make a purchase decision quickly.

 

[Praxis1452]

the reason why this motherboard is so crucial for DFI?

I have my theories but any analysis you could offer would be welcome heh.

 

[LifeStealer]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: hardwareking
MSRP is $249.Not bad considering intel's bad-axe 2 is available at ewiz.com for $252.
I can't wait to see how this performs.Can't really wait much longer too.Hopefully it'll come on sale before christmas.

As we have found out this summer, MSRP means nothing for the first month. Pricing is based on EAPS (early adopter pricing syndrome) now. We have not seen the final BIOS yet but performance is very good on the current beta. Since this launch is extremely important for DFI, Oskar is not releasing the BIOS until "it is ready". It should be soon because we really want to show it and let the readers make a purchase decision quickly.

Whats the performance *roughly* close to?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
the reason why this motherboard is so crucial for DFI?

I have my theories but any analysis you could offer would be welcome heh.

well, my theory is that ASUS is the king of AM2 overclocking, the DFI 975 board wasnt very good, they dont even have a 965 board, and there is no i680 board that i know of.

IMO, the ultra D was the last good board from DFi, which was a while ago. I imagine they arent doing so well financially.

 

[Praxis1452]

AM2 is better with ASUS? really? lol. Wouldn't have thought that it'd be much different. The AM2 lanparty looks really nice. Don't actually see to many people using it but that's because I haven't paid much attention to AM2 in a while. They are already almost in production of a 680i board I thought(they canceled the first nvidia intel chipset because it clocked so bad). Well development stage maybe.

I agree that their 975x sucked pretty much.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: hardwareking
MSRP is $249.Not bad considering intel's bad-axe 2 is available at ewiz.com for $252.
I can't wait to see how this performs.Can't really wait much longer too.Hopefully it'll come on sale before christmas.

As we have found out this summer, MSRP means nothing for the first month. Pricing is based on EAPS (early adopter pricing syndrome) now. We have not seen the final BIOS yet but performance is very good on the current beta. Since this launch is extremely important for DFI, Oskar is not releasing the BIOS until "it is ready". It should be soon because we really want to show it and let the readers make a purchase decision quickly.

This is good to know. The early Conroe mobos came out too soon and with buggy BIOS and stability problems. I worry the latest 680i mobos will have similar problems. Hopefully DFI will show the other manufacturers the proper way to launch a good stable platform.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
the reason why this motherboard is so crucial for DFI?

I have my theories but any analysis you could offer would be welcome heh.

well, my theory is that ASUS is the king of AM2 overclocking, the DFI 975 board wasnt very good, they dont even have a 965 board, and there is no i680 board that i know of.

IMO, the ultra D was the last good board from DFi, which was a while ago. I imagine they arent doing so well financially.

I am getting better overclocks with the DFI AM2 board than I am with the Asus CrossHair at this time (yes, we have not forgot about AM2). The last BIOS release for the DFI 975X board has brought its overclocking performance even with the abit 975X and very close to the Asus P5W-DH for significantly less money. Their 680i board is in qualification testing at this time, expected release is within 60 days. They have not made a decision on a P965 board although we expect them to release one in the Infinity line of boards. Their financials are very good at this point due to their rapidly expanding line of industrial products. I think with a few good product launches (on time) they should carve out a healthy niche market again.

 

[Gary Key]

Whats the performance *roughly* close to?

That I cannot officially comment on yet but in some areas you might want to ask what the 975X and 680i are "roughly" close to in performance. All of the chipsets have their positives and negatives, this one is no different but it will be very competitive with the current line of products.

 

[Warren21]

Woop woop woop woop! Good news Gary . I like the fact that they are putting this much effort into getting the board and BIOS right... 4 GHz @ 500MHz x 8 anyone?

Sounds like the launch isn't too far off either... This board will be the crucial part of my build:

Vista Ultimate
ASUS Vento 3600 Black
ASUS PW201

E6600
DFI RD600
2 x 1GB OCZ ATI Xfire DDR2 800 4-4-4-12
2 x RAID-0'd SATA drives (haven't decided high speed or high capacity yet)
2 x PX-755SA SATA (no legacy connections for meh) DVD+/-RWs
1 x R600
X-Fi Platinum
Enermax Liberty 500W (upgrading supply when I get 2nd R600)

 

[LifeStealer]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Whats the performance *roughly* close to?

That I cannot officially comment on yet but in some areas you might want to ask what the 975X and 680i are "roughly" close to in performance. All of the chipsets have their positives and negatives, this one is no different but it will be very competitive with the current line of products.

How close is the P5B to *that* 680i in performance?

 

[Praxis1452]

bump =)

 

[LifeStealer]

B is for bug U is for under M is for my P is for (left-over) pizza.

 

[hazix007]

This is great, knowing many people here are excited with the upcoming RD600 mobo just like me. I joined several forums but people have always been saying it's not worth to wait for the RD600 as not many manufacturer are going to release it and lack of support since intel is not responsible for it (plus now ati=amd, intel's main rival) etc etc. And someone also mentioned to me to just opt for p5b deluxe as it has plenty of support plus great capabilities (especially OC)

So, people, is it really worth it to wait for the DFI's RD600 or should I just go with p5b deluxe? I really appreciate it if someone could also give me some comparison between these two.

(Owh, besides, I'm an ATI guy. That's why I'm 'still' waiting for the RD600. Nvidia's 680i isn't in the list)

 

[Tyhr]

I'm in the same boat - Asus P5B Deluxe or wait for RD600.

I'm not "business expert", but I fail to see the big problem with ATI/AMD providing chipsets for Intel processors. The way I see it - Intel CPU's are the superior choice right now, and may be for a long time. Why not cash in on that?

1. What kind of message would be sent to consumers if AMD/ATI made the "best" chipset for Intel chips? I'm buying Conroe right now anyways, but if AMD supports it the best, my choice after Conroe may be up for grabs.

2. Do they actually think I'm considering an AMD chip right now? Nope. The chipset and motherboard manufacturer are the only questions I still haven't answered.

3. Do they think if they keep on supporting Intel CPU's that I'll never buy an AMD chip again? If the day comes that AMD has a superior CPU over Intel AND AMD's chipset on Intel is the best too - my FIRST thought would be to get an AMD/ATI chipset supporting an AMD chip.

So if they keep on supporting/dominating in the Intel chipset, I think they'll have more options in the future. But if they have the best chipset for both CPU companies, then they'll pocket money no matter which CPU you get.

Bah, if RD600 doesn't come out soon, I'm going P965. The 680i, while reviewed favorably on many sites, just doesn't seem to be hitting great oc's in the "real world" when compared to the 965 and even 975's.

Maybe that's why I'm not in business though...

 

[88NovaTwincam]

Given the success and great community support for DFI O/C mobos, they may certainly be worth waiting for!

I nearly pulled the trigger on a e6400, p5b-deluxe, and crucial 10th anniv. 3-3-3 2x1gb but those sticks are gone ;(

What memory are you guys gonna stick in these 1000MHz capable boards?

And can you justify spending more on ram and or mobo than on cpu??

 

[tvdang7]

these things still coming out or what........i thought nov was release date?

 

[hazix007]

I'll be waiting then. The release date? Maybe Dec but the release has been postponed for so long. Last time they said it was sept/Oct. Now ,towards the end of Nov still no sign of it. I'd say Dec will be the right date (I really hope so). Let us wait and see.

Btw, can this link be trusted?
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35751

It says that even ASUS has interest in RD600. Also mentioned that ASUS will release its mobo on Nov while DFI will be sometime in Dec.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: tvdang7
these things still coming out or what........i thought nov was release date?

The board will be released in December and before Christmas.

 

[LifeStealer]

Post a review! Something! We're begging.

 

[qdemn7]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: tvdang7
these things still coming out or what........i thought nov was release date?

The board will be released in December and before Christmas.

Yep, I called DFI today and the person I spoke to in Sales said December for sure.

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: LifeStealer
Post a review! Something! We're begging.

We are begging also, once we receive the final BIOS then the preview will go up.

 

[Warren21]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: tvdang7
these things still coming out or what........i thought nov was release date?

The board will be released in December and before Christmas.

One question: What will availability be? Launch day? 1 week after? If DFI does have final board design ready for production, then there will be sufficient stock by release date? Please don't make this be a Dec. launch with availability in March... RD600 has had enough set-backs.

If you could just tell me (Canadian*) retail availability before Christmas that would make my day...