I agree. " They aren't top of the line, they're excellent values". That being said, how can you complain, knowing when you bought that "combo" deal at Fry's that you were basically getting the mobo for free, or nearly so. In addition, you already know that if you can O/C it any, that's just a plus, a freebee, an extra added 'lil bonus to sweeten the deal you cheap azz.(Talkin' to myself here). They usually do what thay are supposed to & maybe a little more. Not exactly the the O/C board of choice. Not one you'll likely spend upwards of $200 or so on, not one that you will likely be bragging about to all your hardware GEEk friends. The wife definitely doesn't even want to know. So yes, ECS is O.K. For what is does. And the price? ....That's why it's it the Hot Deal Forum, isn't it?