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acheron

Diamond Member
May 27, 2008
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The problem with D3 was that you weren't farming for items, you were farming for gold, because you could always find a better item on the AH.
 
Nov 19, 2011
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People always seem to mistake itemization and auction houses as the core problems to the game. While itemization is a problem just imagine they fixed it and the best drops dropped 100% of the time. You are right back at the same problem before because everybody has the same items and lvl of power.

And the auction house was one of the few things they actually got right with the release of d3. No more sitting in chat for hours on end to pawn off some mediocre gear for 1/3 of what you should have gotten. I mean if you find that fun you surely can do that still today.

The problem is there is truly no end game. Killing diablo? Well you did that in normal, nightmare and hell mode already so what fun is it when it comes to inferno. So you are left with farming gear to farm better gear to farm faster. But why?
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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People always seem to mistake itemization and auction houses as the core problems to the game. While itemization is a problem just imagine they fixed it and the best drops dropped 100% of the time. You are right back at the same problem before because everybody has the same items and lvl of power.

uh, that's not the problem at all. If you want "true end game" with lots of stuff to do go play a mmorpg. That's not what diablo or any of the loot farming games are about. The game IS loot farming/pvp. It's simple tried and true, look at how many enjoy POE.

The problem IS the itemization that gives no sense of progression. You have something with 100 str vs 120 str vs 200 str. Big deal. Look at d2 and the variety of items and then come back and say that's not more exciting to get than an orange chest piece with 100 str vs an orange chest piece with 120 str. I'll also say the lack of versatility in builds attributes to the problem as well.
 

magomago

Lifer
Sep 28, 2002
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Not even remotely interested. And this comes from the fan who sacrificed his life on D2.

And it's not even some high-horse nerd talk. I'm REALLY not interested. Spent full $59.99 on D3... beat it once and haven't touched it since. It's not even installed on my PC.

i also stopped playing after i beat the story once.

That said, in order to see how Metzen fucked it up even more, I will most likely get it, play it once, and then never touch it again.


Unlike you guys, the game was actually fun and amusing, the music was great, and I loved the art styles. What annoyed the shit out of me was the laughably bad plot and the way it was implemented.
 
Nov 19, 2011
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I agree the items are way more interesting in d2. So when you get these wicked cool new items that drop what are you going to do with them? Guess what you only have 1 choice in d3 and that is to farm. At least d2 had pvp, custom game rooms and ladders to keep people entertained.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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I agree the items are way more interesting in d2. So when you get these wicked cool new items that drop what are you going to do with them? Guess what you only have 1 choice in d3 and that is to farm. At least d2 had pvp, custom game rooms and ladders to keep people entertained.

I stopped playing a while ago, but I thought they implemented PVP and ladders... or at least it was big on the agenda.
 

smakme7757

Golden Member
Nov 20, 2010
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I enjoyed Diablo 3. I'll be picking up the expansion. Maybe I'll try a different character class. I only made a monk, completed inferno then was done with it.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
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I tried to love D3, putting in 147 hours, but after being killed for the hundredth time by some cheap bullshit like Fast Vortex Fire Chains Minion Invulnerability - screw Diablo 3 and the horse it rode in on.

I like a challenge, but my badass end game character felt like a farmer with a pitchfork at times, and his gear was as generic as they come, in the two viable builds (using most of the same skills) I could live by using.

Path of Exile is a far better game.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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The time I spent on D1, D2 and LOD (especially LOD) was astronomical. The time I spent on D3? About ten minutes in the demo. Nah, today I get my diablo fix playing Path of Exile and enjoying it greatly.
 

Jeeebus

Diamond Member
Aug 29, 2006
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To this day I still get urges to re-install D2 (w/ all 8 - 12 cd keys I have laying around somewhere) and delve back into that sickness.

I've never played D3 and never will. It could be the greatest game out today and it will never live up to the nostalgia of D2.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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To this day I still get urges to re-install D2 (w/ all 8 - 12 cd keys I have laying around somewhere) and delve back into that sickness.

I've never played D3 and never will. It could be the greatest game out today and it will never live up to the nostalgia of D2.

You should try Titan Quest. Or Torchlight.
Play something new (new to you) and dont spend a ridiculous amount of cash.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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WHO SAW IT COMING!!?!?!?!!?

DIABLO ISNT DEAD SPOILERS AT 11PM.

I'd love to see the sales info on this first week.

you mean besides when they said it would have expansions before it was released?
 

Rinaun

Golden Member
Dec 30, 2005
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you mean besides when they said it would have expansions before it was released?

I was referring to Diablo not being dead. I knew there was going to be an expansion, but apparently they don't want to deviate from the "oh hey diablos dea- oh wait hes back." cycle.
 

ShadowOfMyself

Diamond Member
Jun 22, 2006
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"Fool me once", etc etc

After watching the gamecom announcement, they definitely seem to be heading in the right direction with Loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0 (infinite levels? cool)

Still not touching it though... Most of the features of this expansion are things that were obviously taken out of the original game just so they would have a reason to release an expansion in the first place (read: Mystic) and rob people of another 40$

I hope the sales tank, but considering all the Blizzard fanboys out there, it will probably sell a few millions anyway
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I didn't. I've played D1 a D2 a lot though. I still wanna try D3, but I haven't got time (or a real interest) yet.

D3 is ok. the story is good. The gameplay is the issue. in D1-2 i could play for an hour and get some drops that were ok (not always good though). if i played 2-3 hours i got some good stuff.

In d3 i could play for a week and NEVER get anything. Sure i got a bunch of yellow and a couple orange. but they always sucked ass.

good items? need to hit the AH or the RMA
 

darkewaffle

Diamond Member
Oct 7, 2005
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It's a game about finding items with special colored text; the story has been weak in all three of them. D3's ambience/mood wasn't as good as D2's but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think anybody is playing for the story.

The "lore" behind D3 is interesting and the 'canon' story is ok, but it's implementation into each of the three games has been mediocre at best.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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It's a game about finding items with special colored text; the story has been weak in all three of them. D3's ambience/mood wasn't as good as D2's but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think anybody is playing for the story.

The "lore" behind D3 is interesting and the 'canon' story is ok, but it's implementation into each of the three games has been mediocre at best.

diablo 1 is still by far the best....it simply isn't as big of a game as the rest. the lighting, the mood, the music, the oh-shit-there's-a-pack-of-acid-spitters-and-if-i-die-i'll-lose-my-gear.
 

PowerYoga

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2001
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I tried to love D3, putting in 147 hours, but after being killed for the hundredth time by some cheap bullshit like Fast Vortex Fire Chains Minion Invulnerability - screw Diablo 3 and the horse it rode in on.

Before they nerfed them, my favorite were fast invlunerable minions waller vortex lickers.

Waller arcane sentry molten frozen is also pretty fun...
 

thespyder

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2006
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I have to agree with the overall sentiments. Totally not interested. I spent more hours in front of D2 than I am prepared to admit. D3, I actually finished one time through but then just stopped being interested in playing. I think I fired it up twice since then.

I am OK with the story being short and predictable and on the whole not great. I am ok with the graphics not being a huge step forward. It is the rest of the game content that miffs me.

Maybe if they got rid of the always online and the auction house and gave the skill tree a makeover such that it was actually important what choices you made in your class development. Maybe if they removed the emphasis on having only the best equipment just to survive, thus pushing the auction house usage. Maybe if it wasn't about farming and more about gaming, I'd consider it. Till then, no deal.
 
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