Diablo 3 Sucks

[akahoovy]

I don't like the game that much. For me it's not very exciting to play.

It'll probably get adjusted, but I really dislike not being able to find good loot for the current level of my character. I used blue pieces on Wizard and Barb up until 15, and when I noticed that the gameplay slowed down tremendously because my damage was so low, I just went to the AH to fix it. Have been every few levels.

My point is, with the above and other things, is that there is not a lot of mystery to this game. I think for myself and others, knowing exactly what skills and runes you get at what level, knowing there aren't mods on items that change the way your character works (teleport or whatever for not Wizard class), having the whole story spood-fed to you... I realize in D2 that most of the story was blatant as well, I just liked the dark moodiness of D1 and finding random books throughout the levels that ominously shed light on what had occurred in Tristram.

It's just pick a class, get to Inferno, grind for loot. However, the loot is generic. Uniques and legendaries with random mods, aside from one or two fixed ones? The best thing going for D3 is the polished gameplay.

 

[Tweak155]

I find the maps too big,getting fed up hacking my way through mobs and more mobs,it missing something from the older Diablo games,I'm still on Act 2 even after more then a month,says something about finding it hard to play long term.


Guess back to ME3 MP for me .

Diablo and Diablo 2 I liked so was hoping D3 would be just as good,however D3 is not IMHO.

Lol. Exaggerate much? You feel so compelled to whine that you have to exaggerate?

Release date was May 15th. Not only has it not even been a month, we're still a week away.

And for those saying it is like WoW... how so?

 

[JujuFish]

D2 was epic, D3 is crap. People want to play the nostalgia card, well, there were plenty of terrible and crap games back in 2000 just like there are today, just like Diablo 3 is today.

Diablo 2 is one of the most overrated games of all time.

 

[Mem]

Lol. Exaggerate much? You feel so compelled to whine that you have to exaggerate?

Release date was May 15th. Not only has it not even been a month, we're still a week away.

And for those saying it is like WoW... how so?

I put it in simple terms so you can understand,I can only play D3 for hour max before I've to leave the game.Btw I had the retail version before 15th May however you are right could not play it until then.

It just does not hold my interest any longer,having pre-ordered it ages ago was hoping it would be better but I knew it would not be,anyway seems some people here don't like it when any bad press or feedback points its finger at D3,well get over it .

 

[sigurros81]

As a Diablo fan I hate more than anyone to say this, but let's be real though. It took blizzard years to release Diablo 3. I remember having a lvl 94 Barbarian running around in Diablo 2 with a teleport amulet and whirlwinding on people. Can you do that in Diablo 3? no. Will you ever be able to teleport with with any class or item other than a sorc? no. Will they include pvp? doubtful. I feel all it is is a stripped version on diablo2 with better graphics. I'm in inferno and find it pointless. There are no thrills here.

Whether Diablo 3 sucks or not, that has got to be the most idiotic and unconvincing reason for saying a game sucks I've ever seen.

 

[Martimus]

My ex-girlfriend sucked, but then she stopped. That is why she is no longer my girlfriend. If Diablo 3 really does suck, maybe I should take a look at that.

 

[railven]

people here don't like it when any bad press or feedback points its finger at D3,well get over it .

Well isn't that ironic - you telling people to "get over" their own opinion on how they feel about the game.

What about your opinion? How was it worded - "get over it ."

 

[thespyder]

Shouldn't this be in the Official Diablo 3 Thread? Anyone want to guess how long it goes on before being locked?

For me, Diablo 3 gave me my money's worth, but it is in no way as good as D2 was. Aside from the Always online, quite a number of decisions were clearly made with an emphasis on pushing the players towards the Auction house (and by default the Real Money Auction House). The Economy (mundane items selling for less than 10 gold. magical items selling for 5% of their merchant price. Having to pay to upgrade the vendors. no real 'Good' items in the stores, etc..) was clearly designed around nothing more than making it invalid except as relates to the auction house.

Once you build a 60th level Barbarian, there is no reason to build another one. He/she now has access to every ability.

In the end, it is a decent 'Average' game. but with none of the polish or strategy or longevity of Diablo 2. Which is a shame that the sequel that was 10 years in the making is actually a mediocre second best to a 12 years old game.

 

[Martimus]

Shouldn't this be in the Official Diablo 3 Thread? Anyone want to guess how long it goes on before being locked?

For me, Diablo 3 gave me my money's worth, but it is in no way as good as D2 was. Aside from the Always online, quite a number of decisions were clearly made with an emphasis on pushing the players towards the Auction house (and by default the Real Money Auction House). The Economy (mundane items selling for less than 10 gold. magical items selling for 5% of their merchant price. Having to pay to upgrade the vendors. no real 'Good' items in the stores, etc..) was clearly designed around nothing more than making it invalid except as relates to the auction house.

Once you build a 60th level Barbarian, there is no reason to build another one. He/she now has access to every ability.

In the end, it is a decent 'Average' game. but with none of the polish or strategy or longevity of Diablo 2. Which is a shame that the sequel that was 10 years in the making is actually a mediocre second best to a 12 years old game.

I thought you said that you wouldn't buy the game because it was always online. What made you change your mind?

 

[Chiropteran]

Once you build a 60th level Barbarian, there is no reason to build another one. He/she now has access to every ability.

I can think of 3 possible reasons.

1- If you are REALLY into the story-line and hearing all the character responses, you might want to play as both a male and female barbarian to hear both versions.

2- One regular barbarian and one hardcore barbarian.

3- Blizzard will eventually allow you to sell characters on the real money auction house. Maybe you enjoy the leveling process, and you can just sell off your "extra" character when it reaches 60.

 

[railven]

3- Blizzard will eventually allow you to sell characters on the real money auction house. Maybe you enjoy the leveling process, and you can just sell off your "extra" character when it reaches 60.

Really? They should bring that option to WoW (even if just for in-game gold) I'm an alt-aholic and I can use the character slots!

I don't think I can do such a think in Diablo 3, though I do have 4 alts already haha.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I play hardcore, I enjoy the game, there will be no RMAH in hardcore as with most the qq'ing hardcore solves 90% of it.

Other issues, like legendary items being crap will be addressed in a later patch. The game just came out and people are comparing it to their experience with D2 which was patched and expanded, it's not anywhere near a far comparison. Give D3 a few months, see how far mass QQ'ing of the general forum can get you, we're already getting the ramp up from Act I to Act II nerfed so people with infinite lives can get meaningless gear and quit after they "beat it".

 

[Mem]

Well isn't that ironic - you telling people to "get over" their own opinion on how they feel about the game.

What about your opinion? How was it worded - "get over it ."

My opinion is simple, if you like the game great good for you,unfortunately some people don't like it.

I will say they could of made it better ,however end of the day you can't please everybody.


I would of liked to have seen some improvements from D2...
I hate the map especially if you log back in and its missing all the explored parts you have done,hate the fact it never puts you in same spot you logged out,never been keen on WP markers,plenty more things I don't like but whats done is done.

 

[thespyder]

I thought you said that you wouldn't buy the game because it was always online. What made you change your mind?

I said I was seriously thinking about not buying it. That is true. However, I broke down and got it after all.

I can think of 3 possible reasons.

1- If you are REALLY into the story-line and hearing all the character responses, you might want to play as both a male and female barbarian to hear both versions.

2- One regular barbarian and one hardcore barbarian.

3- Blizzard will eventually allow you to sell characters on the real money auction house. Maybe you enjoy the leveling process, and you can just sell off your "extra" character when it reaches 60.

Ok, I take it that people might do this. But it seems to me these are really a select and very specific group of people. Perhaps my comment should be "The average player is going to have very little reason to play more than one of any class to level 60." Hope that clarifies my stance.

 

[railven]

My opinion is simple, if you like the game great good for you,unfortunately some people don't like it.

I will say they could of made it better ,however end of the day you can't please everybody.

I get you, and I wasn't saying you were wrong - just thought it was funny you were telling someone else to get over expressing their opinion yet you were doing the exact same thing.

Ah opinions, we go to wars for them That and sexy ladies haha.

I would of liked to have seen some improvements from D2...
I hate the map especially if you log back in and its missing all the explored parts you have done,hate the fact it never puts you in same spot you logged out,never been keen on WP markers,plenty more things I don't like but whats done is done.

Since the maps are randomly generated and each map contains different events, I personally don't have an issue with the maps (that I liked games like Grandia and Dark Cloud) and for me its just more meat to cleave

For the perfectionist - I can see this being tedious and borderline mind blowing. My first play through I explored every nook and cranny, now I'm just looking for big mob paks to slaughter and maybe an event or two.

Seems reading a lot of people's posts the game has done improved a lot on some aspects but not changed in others and even broken/removed other parts.

Still a fun game to mindlessly click stuff.

 

[Craig234]

Diablo 2 nostalgia is extremely strong. I liked D2, but it was in no way as amazing as people seem to remember it to be.

I start up Diablo II now, and my reaction is, 'how did I stand these horrible low-res graphics (800x600, increased from 640x480 with the expansion)?'

It's just hard to play.

Char skill points you can't reallocate?

 

[Craig234]

i really think people have a bad memory of what D2 was/became, it wasent hard, if you played softcore on the ladder it was a joke, hardcore was only slightly less of a joke and that was really only because of act 2 and iron maiden mobs in hell (depending on your class). yea it didnt have a AH so it was 100% grind for gear, which became bot/dupe for gear

Say what you want, I found hardcore plenty hard and exciting - only did it one char.

In normal. Until that boss (Mephisto?) in the pyramid area that could slow/freeze you.

There was a forum on diabloii.net for people to post about their hardcore chars' stories, people got attached to them.

 

[kami]

D3 at launch is as fun as d2 at launch. People forgot they tuned D2 for 10 years before it became the fun game that it was.

People forget about these things when they don their rose tinted glasses.

I remember when D2 came out people complained and said D1 was better. If you asked that same person today I bet they will say D2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread and that blizzard failed with diablo 3.

 

[Craig234]

Diablo 2 is one of the most overrated games of all time.

I think it's gotten hard to play, with the low res graphics and gameplay, but I think was an all-time great game for the time. Best site for a game I've seen shows it, diabloii.net.

The music is some of the best ever... the game kept people replaying the same bosses thousands of times in some cases. A good variety of interesting classes.

 

[thespyder]

I start up Diablo II now, and my reaction is, 'how did I stand these horrible low-res graphics (800x600, increased from 640x480 with the expansion)?'

It's just hard to play.

Char skill points you can't reallocate?

For someone like me, graphics are by no means the end all and be all of a game. I prefer something with a bit of depth. Admittedly Diablo 2 does not have the story depth that something like Baldur's Gate does, but it does have depth of a kind.

Diablo 3 just feels like a grab for more money (to me). On a superficial level, the game play is similar to Diablo 2, but after that the comparison pales.

You can reallocate skill points in Diablo 2, but only rarely. This, I agree, can make for challenges and one of the main complaints about Diablo 2 was that people would hoard points until skills unlocked, or that you could end up with a seriously borked build if you weren't paying attention. But that could have been resolved by careful application of additional purchasable rebuild options. I wouldn't say this should have been liberally spread out because that invalidates the idea behind a build strategy (as evidenced by what Diablo 3 is like).

For example, My Diablo 2 account has two separate Necromancer builds. The first is all about summons. He very quickly has a host of undead moving around him that does all of his killing for him. the other one is all about direct damage and is absolutely lethal with a poisoned dagger.

but at the end of the day, if you look at most of the decisions made in the game, almost all of them were designed to gently coax the player to the auction house. And there was a whole lot of generic 'Right sizing' that was clearly done to make the game more palatable to the lowest common denominator. These choices may lead to more sales, but cheapens the game as a whole (in my eyes).

Again, I feel that I spent my money and got value for it, but I acknowledge that it is not the game Diablo 2 was. And not from a nostalgic perspective, but from a quantitative point of view. more strategy, more flexible gaming options and more fulfilling game play on the whole.

 

[VashHT]

You can reallocate skill points in Diablo 2, but only rarely. This, I agree, can make for challenges and one of the main complaints about Diablo 2 was that people would hoard points until skills unlocked, or that you could end up with a seriously borked build if you weren't paying attention. But that could have been resolved by careful application of additional purchasable rebuild options. I wouldn't say this should have been liberally spread out because that invalidates the idea behind a build strategy (as evidenced by what Diablo 3 is like).

For example, My Diablo 2 account has two separate Necromancer builds. The first is all about summons. He very quickly has a host of undead moving around him that does all of his killing for him. the other one is all about direct damage and is absolutely lethal with a poisoned dagger.

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Why do you consider that fun though? I don't have enough time nowadays to level multiple characters of each class to max, I'd much rather be able switch between different builds on the same max level necro. It also gives you the freedom to experiment in game without spending a ton of time spreadsheeting your builds to min/max your guy or reading up on guides and such. I guess if you have that much fun planning stuff out in advance then I can see why D3 is disappointing, bu you have to realize a lot of people hate that method of being locked into something that you spent a ton of time on.

 

[Mem]

I get you, and I wasn't saying you were wrong - just thought it was funny you were telling someone else to get over expressing their opinion yet you were doing the exact same thing.

Ah opinions, we go to wars for them That and sexy ladies haha.



Since the maps are randomly generated and each map contains different events, I personally don't have an issue with the maps (that I liked games like Grandia and Dark Cloud) and for me its just more meat to cleave

For the perfectionist - I can see this being tedious and borderline mind blowing. My first play through I explored every nook and cranny, now I'm just looking for big mob paks to slaughter and maybe an event or two.

Seems reading a lot of people's posts the game has done improved a lot on some aspects but not changed in others and even broken/removed other parts.

Still a fun game to mindlessly click stuff.

I have no problem with anybody expressing their opinion,just remember some members will disagree with some opinions even mine,I can live with that no right or wrong as they say , "get over it" is for both sides.

As to the maps well I like to explore every area leaving no stone unturned so having what you have done/explored disappear when you relog is annoying ,exploring from scratch again gets annoying.



I prefer the old skill system too.

 

[thespyder]

Why do you consider that fun though? I don't have enough time nowadays to level multiple characters of each class to max, I'd much rather be able switch between different builds on the same max level necro. It also gives you the freedom to experiment in game without spending a ton of time spreadsheeting your builds to min/max your guy or reading up on guides and such. I guess if you have that much fun planning stuff out in advance then I can see why D3 is disappointing, bu you have to realize a lot of people hate that method of being locked into something that you spent a ton of time on.

Oh, time is an issue, granted. And I get what you are saying. what I am saying is, diablo 2 had depth in this area that Diablo 3 doesn't. You may not want that depth, but a lot of the fans of the original feel that this loss is significant and disapointing.

It's like what they did between ME1 and ME2. ME2 stripped out almost all of the choices you got in your character. Basically you chose what your toon looked like and just barely what they could do. ME1 (and KOTOR before it) had significantly more choices. A lot of RPG fans were really miffed by this choice as they effectively turned an RPG into an Action shooter game. Which is fine if you like action shooter games, but not so much if you expected the same type of game for ME2 as you found in ME1.

 

[sigurros81]

Oh, time is an issue, granted. And I get what you are saying. what I am saying is, diablo 2 had depth in this area that Diablo 3 doesn't. You may not want that depth, but a lot of the fans of the original feel that this loss is significant and disapointing.

It's like what they did between ME1 and ME2. ME2 stripped out almost all of the choices you got in your character. Basically you chose what your toon looked like and just barely what they could do. ME1 (and KOTOR before it) had significantly more choices. A lot of RPG fans were really miffed by this choice as they effectively turned an RPG into an Action shooter game. Which is fine if you like action shooter games, but not so much if you expected the same type of game for ME2 as you found in ME1.

Not sure what depth you're talking about. Both games are just a neverending clickfest until some phat lootz drop that you hope is an upgrade. If you're talking about the skill tree of Diablo 2, that's got to be a joke to call that 'depth'.

 

[VashHT]

Well I agree with you on ME, I enjoyed the skill and item system of the first much more than 2. I don't disagree with you about depth, but being locked into a build doesn't really add depth to me. For your necromancer example, I'd love to have skill trees like they did in diablo 2, but the ability to respec them whenever like in D3. I like to make little tweaks to my builds and try different things as I go along, a skill system like D2 doesn't really allow for that.

Edit: I'd also say that the rune system in D3 could have plenty of depth if they tweak some runes to be more useful. On my barb I've come up with a couple different skill builds that work for me and the nice thing is I can switch between them whenever.