Diablo 3 Sucks

[Arsinek]

As a Diablo fan I hate more than anyone to say this, but let's be real though. It took blizzard years to release Diablo 3. I remember having a lvl 94 Barbarian running around in Diablo 2 with a teleport amulet and whirlwinding on people. Can you do that in Diablo 3? no. Will you ever be able to teleport with with any class or item other than a sorc? no. Will they include pvp? doubtful. I feel all it is is a stripped version on diablo2 with better graphics. I'm in inferno and find it pointless. There are no thrills here.

 

[waterjug]

Where it all breaks down is that the instance of cycle between fun and frustration eventually spreads out so that it is

Fun - > F R U S T R A T I O N ! - > Fun.

And I never found Diablo 2 game play to be bland. And characters in Diablo 2 require significantly more thought than the ones in D3. In diablo 2 you had to figure out how you were going to progress. You had to pick and choose how you allocated your stats and skills to best optimize your gaming experience. In diablo 3 you have none of that. level up and you all of the sudden have stock skills (and no stat increases). And are exactly the same as every other character of that class (barring equipment).

What? That entire sentence is incorrect. You choose the skills you use, and what runes you attach to them. Your stats increase each level....

 

[bonkers325]

in diablo 2, if you wanted to farm efficiently you used a cookie-cutter min/max build so that you could MF. as far as i remember, you were not allowed to redo skills/talents unless you rolled a new character (unless this was changed in a patch)

in diablo 3, you are allowed to pick and choose whatever talents you want. however, changing them up removes all stacks of NV and makes farming useless. so... you pick a build that works. here's the kicker - depending on your gear setup and party setup, any number of builds are viable!

 

[Dman8777]

Blizzard added respecs (stats and skills) in the last d2 patch, 1 per difficulty after finishing the first quest.

 

[thespyder]

What? That entire sentence is incorrect. You choose the skills you use, and what runes you attach to them. Your stats increase each level....

You are right. You chose the skills you USE. Not the ones you have access too.

 

[Chiropteran]

You are right. You chose the skills you USE. Not the ones you have access too.

I'm not sure what your point is. Both games work the same way, but changing your skills in diablo 3 takes 20 seconds while doing the same in diablo 2 takes 20 hours.

 

[fstime]

A lot of people on this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You liked everything when you were younger and now hate everything new, spewing some hipster sentence like "X was so much better back in my day." Ever realized how every generation things theirs was the best, that they had the best type of music and best standard of living?

WRONG, you either grew up and simply changed, not enjoying the same things anymore, or you got stuck in the past and refused to evolve with the rest of the world and now you think everything sucks.

Stick to playing D2 from 1998, have fun while the rest of us live in the present instead of whining all the time.

 

[thespyder]

I'm not sure what your point is. Both games work the same way, but changing your skills in diablo 3 takes 20 seconds while doing the same in diablo 2 takes 20 hours.

= difference.

 

[EDUSAN]

A lot of people on this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You liked everything when you were younger and now hate everything new, spewing some hipster sentence like "X was so much better back in my day." Ever realized how every generation things theirs was the best, that they had the best type of music and best standard of living?

WRONG, you either grew up and simply changed, not enjoying the same things anymore, or you got stuck in the past and refused to evolve with the rest of the world and now you think everything sucks.

Stick to playing D2 from 1998, have fun while the rest of us live in the present instead of whining all the time.

but ... the past times are always better than the new times!

 

[Brainonska511]

= difference.

That's so much fun, spending time calculating potential routes, looking at only a handful of viable builds, and then if you mess up, having to do it all over again. And to top it off, sometimes you don't mess up, but then Blizzard releases a patch that completely fucks your build, so you have to try again.

 

[thespyder]

A lot of people on this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You liked everything when you were younger and now hate everything new, spewing some hipster sentence like "X was so much better back in my day." Ever realized how every generation things theirs was the best, that they had the best type of music and best standard of living?

WRONG, you either grew up and simply changed, not enjoying the same things anymore, or you got stuck in the past and refused to evolve with the rest of the world and now you think everything sucks.

Stick to playing D2 from 1998, have fun while the rest of us live in the present instead of whining all the time.

A lot of people in this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You think that whatever comes out today by default has to be better than what came before. Spewing some Newbie sentence like: “Look at the technology today. The Graphics are so much better, It HAS to be better than that crap from 10 years ago.” Every realize that just because you streamline something for the masses doesn’t mean that you made it better?

Wrong, games today are made with an eye for the lowest common denominator, the meanest intellect and with an eye for quick simplified game play. And because the graphics are so much better, people are tricked into thinking that every level of the game is more sophisticated. “Anything Old, has to be junk.”

Keep drinking the Kool-aid that they are feeding you. Swallow every last drop. Understand that the Publishers wouldn’t push out crap and call it a master piece.

 

[titan131]

WRONG, you either grew up and simply changed, not enjoying the same things anymore, or you got stuck in the past and refused to evolve with the rest of the world and now you think everything sucks.

Maybe, but just because things change and evolve, doesn't mean it's for the better. In recent years there definitely seems to have been a trend of dumbing down computer games. Some people preferred it when, generally, games were more challenging, required more skill and yes were more frustrating!!! but also more rewarding. To simply say our tastes have changed or that we are just being old fuddy-duddies, stuck in the past, is an oversimplification IMO. This isn't directed particularly at the Diablo series, just games in general.

 

[diesbudt]

but ... the past times are always better than the new times!

The sad truth of life...

You wait in your childhood and adolescence years to grow up, and you live your adult life wishing to go back to your childhood and teen years.


I played both D2 when it first came out and with LoD, and D3.

My OPINION.

D3 is the more fun game. I do miss a few things in D2 like runes for runewords in special weapons. But otherwise, I have enjoyed D3 much more than I did D2.

edit: and to defense thespyder's points. I do also miss the customization of the characters in D2, as I love to plan/theorycrafting statistics and characters and such on games like diablo and warcraft and whatever. However I have had more fun playing D3 at launch than D2 at launch or with LoD. Again just my opinion.

 

[Franz316]

Maybe the hack and slash model of using slightly better gear as a carrot on a stick has run its course?

It looks like Blizzard took the safe road and didn't really revolutionize much at all in D3, and in some cases even simplified it. The problem is, the repetitive game play is not interesting or fun enough to make up for the lack of depth.

 

[Imp]

A lot of people in this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You think that whatever comes out today by default has to be better than what came before. Spewing some Newbie sentence like: “Look at the technology today. The Graphics are so much better, It HAS to be better than that crap from 10 years ago.” Every realize that just because you streamline something for the masses doesn’t mean that you made it better?

Wrong, games today are made with an eye for the lowest common denominator, the meanest intellect and with an eye for quick simplified game play. And because the graphics are so much better, people are tricked into thinking that every level of the game is more sophisticated. “Anything Old, has to be junk.”

Keep drinking the Kool-aid that they are feeding you. Swallow every last drop. Understand that the Publishers wouldn’t push out crap and call it a master piece.

Ah, the elitist finally comes out loud and clear.

 

[thespyder]

Ah, the elitist finally comes out loud and clear.

LOL. I was merely poking fun at the other poster. Don't take it too seriously.

 

[waggy]

The sad truth of life...

You wait in your childhood and adolescence years to grow up, and you live your adult life wishing to go back to your childhood and teen years.


I played both D2 when it first came out and with LoD, and D3.

My OPINION.

D3 is the more fun game. I do miss a few things in D2 like runes for runewords in special weapons. But otherwise, I have enjoyed D3 much more than I did D2.

edit: and to defense thespyder's points. I do also miss the customization of the characters in D2, as I love to plan/theorycrafting statistics and characters and such on games like diablo and warcraft and whatever. However I have had more fun playing D3 at launch than D2 at launch or with LoD. Again just my opinion.

heh i remember buying D1-2 when they came out.

D3 is NOT as good as 2. but its not terrible game. its great for what it is. a hack and slash loot peniata. though they seemed to have fucked up on the loot part.

there are big issues with the game. i suspect they will be worked out soon.

I do think the RMAH is a bad idea though. im going to throw shit on it but won't buy off it. i play Diablo games to do something mindless when there aren't any other games to play.

wich is why D2 and expansions have been on every computer i have owned since it came out (its on this one too!)

 

[thespyder]

heh i remember buying D1-2 when they came out.

D3 is NOT as good as 2. but its not terrible game. its great for what it is. a hack and slash loot peniata. though they seemed to have fucked up on the loot part.

there are big issues with the game. i suspect they will be worked out soon.

I do think the RMAH is a bad idea though. im going to throw shit on it but won't buy off it. i play Diablo games to do something mindless when there aren't any other games to play.

wich is why D2 and expansions have been on every computer i have owned since it came out (its on this one too!)

More or less this.

I have issues with some of the decisions that were made with Diablo 3. It's true. But I have also already stated that I enjoyed the game as a whole and I feel I got my money's worth out of it. It isn't as good a game as Diablo 2, and I won't be playing it 12 years after launch the way I play Diablo 2. I don't like the Always online or the Auction House. And I think that they "Streamlined" a bit too much (which boggles the mind. It's DIABLO!!! How much more dumbed down can it get?), but I won't say I won't play it.

Maybe the expansions will take the feedback of the consumers and tweak the formula a bit. That would make me happiest.

 

[wiki123]

10 years and yeah...

 

[diesbudt]

D3 is NOT as good as 2. but its not terrible game. its great for what it is. a hack and slash loot peniata. though they seemed to have fucked up on the loot part.

I do think the RMAH is a bad idea though. im going to throw shit on it but won't buy off it. i play Diablo games to do something mindless when there aren't any other games to play.

That is your opinion. D2 was fun, but after beating the game once, I just didn't care to go back and do harder difficulties. Plus with all the dupping late stages of the game, Nothing was unique, as many copies of the best items were floating around.

D3, I personally have enjoyed way more in playing then D2. The game's story could be a little longer in act 3 or 4, but overall I enjoy each difficulty and having to tweak/change how I play my characters to succeed on the next difficulty.

And I agree the RMAH, is something I don't like to see either. The auction house isn't as big a deal, as this makes trading and buying things much easier, and a unified currency for everyone. Especially since the best drops with the best stat rolls are incredibally rare.

 

[Chiropteran]

= difference.

Well, read the Diablo 3 comments a bit and you find dozens of posters complaining about the repetition of doing the 4 acts over and over in each difficulty. Then there is you, suggesting that we should level up a new character every time we decide to change a runestone, because that was a better system.

I think you are in the minority here, most players seem to prefer less time wasted on such crap.

 

[Grooveriding]

A lot of people on this forum have the same problem and do not realize it.

You liked everything when you were younger and now hate everything new, spewing some hipster sentence like "X was so much better back in my day." Ever realized how every generation things theirs was the best, that they had the best type of music and best standard of living?

WRONG, you either grew up and simply changed, not enjoying the same things anymore, or you got stuck in the past and refused to evolve with the rest of the world and now you think everything sucks.

Stick to playing D2 from 1998, have fun while the rest of us live in the present instead of whining all the time.

For someone who I assume is an adult making this post, this is pretty immature and totally out of context.

Some may glorify everything from the past as being better while they sway back in forth in their rocking chair and beat their cane off the floor, but sometimes it's just so simple as something was better.

If someone says Terminator 3 is better than Terminator or Aliens Resurrection is better than Alien, do you storm over and tell them they are living in the past and need to get with the modern times ?

Give me a break man. More power to you if you are enjoying Call of Diablo : Deckard Ops. I hear CoD Black Ops 2 is out soon as well, might want to line up your pre-order and lock down your CoD Elite package as well.

The only good thing about Diablo 3 is that somehow when I put up all the items I had on the RMAH last night, I managed to make back all the money I wasted on the CE of this turd of a game and then some.

One born every minute as they say.... lol

 

[DrunkenSano]

D2 was fun the first time around, then there were a lot of glaring points that made the game not fun. Having to relevel a character because you made the wrong choice, then add in the mountain of dupes made the game even more bland. Also, the 'choices' people speak of in D2 is mediocre at best. Yes, you can choose to create an entirely shitty build, but no one does that after making a few mistakes on their first Sorc/Barb/Pal whatever. Instead of being able to shift skills around to their own playstyle, they had to relevel a new character, which was zzzzzzzzzz. Diablo 3 definitely made it a lot better.

 

[Chiropteran]

One thing I don't like about D3 is the mandatory quest/storyline. I wish they would just give an option to disable it and let you wander around the world freely.

At least make it possible to really skip the cut-scenes as they occur. Cut-scene starts, I hit ESC, see the first 3 seconds anyway, prompt comes up "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO SKIP THIS LAME ASS BORING CUT-SCENE?" I click "yes", and then it still shows me another 6 seconds of the cut scene before "skipping" it. Every time.

WTB option menu check-box for "always skip cut-scenes".

 

[EDUSAN]

you can move freely ... just start an act with the final quest...and you will have all the waypoints available and go wherever you want