Diablo III requires constant internet connection

[p0nd]

I never botted or was even into that scene in diablo 2, so I am legitimately curious about this: could the bots run through the hardest content in the game, or were the bots unable to handle anything serious and merely used to run through easier content that would be trivial for the given character?

A well equipped Hammerdin bot could solo Hell Baal/minions with minimal risk very efficiently, which is the final act boss. In fact many people leveled in the 90s by following bot-made Baal games.

However most bots ran bosses like Pindleskin and Mephisto due to ease of access = faster runs and there wasn't a need for great equipment on the bot unlike a baal bot. and there were only a few unimportant drops you were missing out on that only Baal could drop anyway, iirc.

However the hardest content in the game was Uber-Tristram, which I don't think could be botted. It could be solo'd with certain builds/godly gear (i.e. duped runeword items), or you needed a good team. The reward being there was the Hellfire Torch, a charm with godly bonuses, but to run the Uber-Tristram you had to collect a bunch of mini-keys/artifacts first which was time consuming, so there were bot runs to collect these because they dropped from set bosses in each act (countess, summoner, and Nihlathak).

 

[tedrodai]

However the hardest content in the game was Uber-Tristram, which I don't think could be botted. It could be solo'd with certain builds/godly gear (i.e. duped runeword items), or you needed a good team.

Occasionally if I really made a mess of things in there, I'd exit the game to retrieve my corpse real quick. Eventually I made the mistake of doing so when most of my smiter gear was on my 2nd corpse...and I had to take a break from the game for a while lol. Man...escape, up arrow, enter had become second nature...I'd done it before I even realized it.

Eh well, I never had any luck with the torch stats anyways. The challenge was fun though.

 

[CVSiN]

Blizzard, the creators of the game. s



I can't tell you anything, however Blizzard can with the goals of protecting their most important and majority consumers - the online community.



This doesn't make any sense. Your arguments could be applied (just as poorly) to an MMO.

"Why can't I play the game I bought the way I want to!"
"I just want to play by myself!"
"Who says I can't!"
"If I use hacks it only affects me!"

an MMO is a totally different situation.
it is online ONLY and the data is all on the servers. any retard that tries to cheat in an MMO deserves to be banned as it DOES affect everyone.


this is a SINGLE PLAYER PRIMARY game..

What is Diablo III?

We’re developing Diablo III to be the definitive action role-playing game, and a true continuation of the Diablo series. Players will adventure through rich and varied settings, unraveling an epic storyline, engaging in combat with hordes of monsters and challenging bosses, growing in experience and ability, and acquiring items of incredible power. Diablo III will be a fitting sequel to Diablo II, with the easy interface, fast-paced action, and visceral gameplay that Diablo players have come to expect and enjoy. It will also include many new features that will take the Diablo action-RPG experience to the next level.

What can you tell us about Battle.net?

Diablo III will benefit from Battle.net upgrades that will provide some exciting new features for players. Cooperative online play remains a primary focus, with multiple enhancements being planned to make connecting with your friends easier and cooperative play even more fun. We’ll have more details on all these aspects as well as other exciting new features at a later date.

That is RIGHT off the page...

nowhere did it ever mention that it is primarily a multiplayer game..
it says that it will BENEFIT from battlenet and that coop will be a focus and supported..
NOWHERE is it telling us it is mandatory.

they keep on saying over and over that it is in the image of D1 and 2..

seriously fuck Blizzard.. over the prolly 10k I have given them since 1998 till now..

I will not be buying this boatload of fail.. and will not be supporting WoW any longer or any future Blizz MMOs..

 

[badb0y]

an MMO is a totally different situation.
it is online ONLY and the data is all on the servers. any retard that tries to cheat in an MMO deserves to be banned as it DOES affect everyone.


this is a SINGLE PLAYER PRIMARY game..

What is Diablo III?

We’re developing Diablo III to be the definitive action role-playing game, and a true continuation of the Diablo series. Players will adventure through rich and varied settings, unraveling an epic storyline, engaging in combat with hordes of monsters and challenging bosses, growing in experience and ability, and acquiring items of incredible power. Diablo III will be a fitting sequel to Diablo II, with the easy interface, fast-paced action, and visceral gameplay that Diablo players have come to expect and enjoy. It will also include many new features that will take the Diablo action-RPG experience to the next level.

What can you tell us about Battle.net?

Diablo III will benefit from Battle.net upgrades that will provide some exciting new features for players. Cooperative online play remains a primary focus, with multiple enhancements being planned to make connecting with your friends easier and cooperative play even more fun. We’ll have more details on all these aspects as well as other exciting new features at a later date.

That is RIGHT off the page...

nowhere did it ever mention that it is primarily a multiplayer game..
it says that it will BENEFIT from battlenet and that coop will be a focus and supported..
NOWHERE is it telling us it is mandatory.

they keep on saying over and over that it is in the image of D1 and 2..

seriously fuck Blizzard.. over the prolly 10k I have given them since 1998 till now..

I will not be buying this boatload of fail.. and will not be supporting WoW any longer or any future Blizz MMOs..

That's fine because it's your money but I think you are overreacting with always online thing. You can play alone if you want, just saying.

 

[Dumac]

it is online ONLY and the data is all on the servers. any retard that tries to cheat in an MMO deserves to be banned as it DOES affect everyone.

Good job, you just described Diablo III.

this is a SINGLE PLAYER PRIMARY game..

Nope, by the word of Blizzard and the majority of the D2 community, Diablo 2 in its later stages and now Diablo 3 are primarily multiplayer, and online.

What is Diablo III?

We’re developing Diablo III to be the definitive action role-playing game, and a true continuation of the Diablo series. Players will adventure through rich and varied settings, unraveling an epic storyline, engaging in combat with hordes of monsters and challenging bosses, growing in experience and ability, and acquiring items of incredible power. Diablo III will be a fitting sequel to Diablo II, with the easy interface, fast-paced action, and visceral gameplay that Diablo players have come to expect and enjoy. It will also include many new features that will take the Diablo action-RPG experience to the next level.

What can you tell us about Battle.net?

Diablo III will benefit from Battle.net upgrades that will provide some exciting new features for players. Cooperative online play remains a primary focus, with multiple enhancements being planned to make connecting with your friends easier and cooperative play even more fun. We’ll have more details on all these aspects as well as other exciting new features at a later date.

No where does that claim that D3 is a single player game. In fact, blizzard says that ONLINE play is the primary focus.

That is RIGHT off the page...

nowhere did it ever mention that it is primarily a multiplayer game..
it says that it will BENEFIT from battlenet and that coop will be a focus and supported..
NOWHERE is it telling us it is mandatory.

I don't get it...Blizzard is telling you NOW before the game has a beta release date, let alone a final product release date, that battle.net is mandatory. Why are you whining again? You make no sense.

Blizzard is coming out and announcing the decisions they are making during development as they happen. Games evolve - what more can you expect?

they keep on saying over and over that it is in the image of D1 and 2..

seriously fuck Blizzard.. over the prolly 10k I have given them since 1998 till now..

I will not be buying this boatload of fail.. and will not be supporting WoW any longer or any future Blizz MMOs..

10k? That is 200 full prices games, or 55 years of WoW. What are you smoking?

 

[stlcardinals]

In fact not 1 promotional video has been shown with MP in use.. everything shown thus far is single player footage.

You should watch the very first Gameplay Trailer they released for Diablo 3. After the barbarian defeats the Thousand Pounder, the Witch Doctor joins the party. The narrator specifically states at this time, Diablo 3 is First and Foremost a Co-Op game. The whole last section shows a 4 member party fighting a huge monster.

 

[Zargon]

You should watch the very first Gameplay Trailer they released for Diablo 3. After the barbarian defeats the Thousand Pounder, the Witch Doctor joins the party. The narrator specifically states at this time, Diablo 3 is First and Foremost a Co-Op game. The whole last section shows a 4 member party fighting a huge monster.

COOP can be done on a LAN with no internet, just sayin

 

[PowerYoga]

That's true, and this was a huge gripe for people for starcraft 2 as well. But people got over it.

Last time we had a small lan party we got 8 people online with no issues. I don't expect this to be an issue this time around either.

 

[tedrodai]

That's true, and this was a huge gripe for people for starcraft 2 as well. But people got over it.

I was skeptical with SC2, because I mostly play single player, but it turned out OK. I actually prefer it for D3 though. Even back with D1, as soon as I tried the multi-player, that's all I ever played. Then with D2, the only times I ever strayed from closed-bnet was when I was mucking around with modding or playing open-bnet with some high school friends (man it's been over 10 yrs now lol)...idk why I couldn't talk them into closed. I mean, you can play solo at any time, or you can choose to play with others at any time. They may not have marketed D2 as primarily multiplayer, but it was.

With how much D2 was based on items...you found a lot more items that are useful to another class or build than were useful to you. I can't imagine playing that game with no ability to trade.

 

[deanx0r]

I might be off topic here, but when is Diablo 3 due for release? is it this year? I know there is a beta due pretty soon, but wouldn't it be too premature to release the game right after the beta? The StarCraft 2 beta went on for almost a year before the game was released. I don't think I could hold my attention til Q4 2012 on this one.

 

[CVSiN]

Good job, you just described Diablo III.




Nope, by the word of Blizzard and the majority of the D2 community, Diablo 2 in its later stages and now Diablo 3 are primarily multiplayer, and online.



No where does that claim that D3 is a single player game. In fact, blizzard says that ONLINE play is the primary focus.

That is RIGHT off the page...



I don't get it...Blizzard is telling you NOW before the game has a beta release date, let alone a final product release date, that battle.net is mandatory. Why are you whining again? You make no sense.

Blizzard is coming out and announcing the decisions they are making during development as they happen. Games evolve - what more can you expect?

they keep on saying over and over that it is in the image of D1 and 2..



10k? That is 200 full prices games, or 55 years of WoW. What are you smoking?

Um, your math is quite a bit off.. I count at least 6140 dollars in paid sub fees just from my 4 accounts since beta.. 15.99 X12 x8 = 1535 dollars PER account per 8 years.. multiply that x4..
that doesn't count my GFs 2 accounts or her sons 2. so actually I'm over 12k.. on subs alone..
WoW has been out since 2004.. and I cancelled all accounts this year..

All were ALL CEs and that doesn't count SC D1 D2 Warcrafts etc etc etc..
Dont tell me what I have or have not spent..

Not to mention all the products Ive bought since then.. each CE was 100.. I bought every 1 x4

then you have special pets and mounts from the site each of those is 10-25 bucks each..add that to 8 accounts..

please.. makes me sick even thinking about how much cash I've spent on WoW alone since launch..

 

[pentech]

dont care what they do i just want to get in on the beta to see how i like it. then ill decide if ill get it when it goes retali

 

[darkewaffle]

I might be off topic here, but when is Diablo 3 due for release? is it this year? I know there is a beta due pretty soon, but wouldn't it be too premature to release the game right after the beta? The StarCraft 2 beta went on for almost a year before the game was released. I don't think I could hold my attention til Q4 2012 on this one.

Probably shortly before Half Life 3

This year seems too early, early next year might have a window but it wouldn't be a great time to put it out after the holidays and as the year wears on it'll get closer and closer to the the likely release of the next WoW expansion, as Cata was released Dec 2010 and they're on an 18-20 month cycle it seems. Actually, maybe late spring/early summer 2012 would be a good fit if they can complete it by then, but they also wouldn't want it conflicting with the next SC installment which I would think has to be coming down the pipe in the near future as well.

 

[Chiropteran]

please.. makes me sick even thinking about how much cash I've spent on WoW alone since launch..

You spent nearly $10,000 on World of Warcraft, which requires an internet connection.

However, since Diablo 3 requires an internet connection, you are taking a stand and refusing to pay the $60 or whatever it costs to buy it?


Yeah, that sounds reasonable... if you are trolling.

 

[PowerYoga]

some people have to be mad about something or they'll cease to exist, even if the source of the anger is hypocritical.

So how many raids did you miss because you didn't have internet connection over the course of 7 years?

 

[SMOGZINN]

Probably shortly before Half Life 3

This year seems too early, early next year might have a window but it wouldn't be a great time to put it out after the holidays and as the year wears on it'll get closer and closer to the the likely release of the next WoW expansion, as Cata was released Dec 2010 and they're on an 18-20 month cycle it seems. Actually, maybe late spring/early summer 2012 would be a good fit if they can complete it by then, but they also wouldn't want it conflicting with the next SC installment which I would think has to be coming down the pipe in the near future as well.

Blizzard has said repeatedly in the last few weeks that while it will be released when it is done, it is all but done, and they are expecting to see D3 released this year.

One of the surprise bits of information that came out this week is that D3 has been in closed beta since late may, is currently playable to the end with all classes, and that the open public that we are expecting any day now is mostly just to test battle.net and probably will not last more then a couple of weeks, with the game likely going gold right after. So, if we get the beta next week (since they put up a beta website and quickly took it down this week that is likely) it is possible we will be playing D3 in September.

 

[badb0y]

D3 this year mean I am going to fail all my classes. Great.

 

[deanx0r]

Blizzard has said repeatedly in the last few weeks that while it will be released when it is done, it is all but done, and they are expecting to see D3 released this year.

One of the surprise bits of information that came out this week is that D3 has been in closed beta since late may, is currently playable to the end with all classes, and that the open public that we are expecting any day now is mostly just to test battle.net and probably will not last more then a couple of weeks, with the game likely going gold right after. So, if we get the beta next week (since they put up a beta website and quickly took it down this week that is likely) it is possible we will be playing D3 in September.

I think you might be right on this one. I now remember that the open beta of Diablo 2 only lasted a few weeks before the game went gold. The game was horribly balanced, but you could at least gamble SoJ!

 

[Pray To Jesus]

If you don't like it don't buy it. That simple.

 

[CVSiN]

You spent nearly $10,000 on World of Warcraft, which requires an internet connection.

However, since Diablo 3 requires an internet connection, you are taking a stand and refusing to pay the $60 or whatever it costs to buy it?


Yeah, that sounds reasonable... if you are trolling.

D3 = WoW? = MMO?

I dont think so

I paid for an MMO which I knew what I getting into..

but again this is NOT an MMO nor has ANY of the previous Diablos required you to be tied to the internet or logged in to play..

why is this so hard for you morons to understand..
There are those of us that DO NOT want to be tied to a internet connection to play a single player enabled game..

If you do that's fine and dandy but why is it suddenly OK with the consumer to force that on us that dont want it.. we would be paying for the same product..
why cannot we use our software OFFLINE and in remote areas..
and as evidenced by this thread even on this TINY little segment of gamers that come to AT that there is a demand and a want to NOT be tied to the internet to game.

 

[mindcycle]

The more I read about this, the more it looks like they're designing the game from the ground up to be a multiplayer game. So an internet connection seems pretty mandatory and is likely a valid requirement. Which is a bit contrary to what I previously wrote in this thread, if anyone actually read that, haha Now, if there ends up being some great single player aspect and you still have to be connected or the game drops you, that would suck. Hopefully they'll implement a "Steam like" offline option in that case. But then again, we're talking about Activision here, who's been responsible for some pretty ridiculous draconian DRM schemes, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they didn't really give a shit.

 

[SMOGZINN]

D3 = WoW? = MMO?

I dont think so

I paid for an MMO which I knew what I getting into..

but again this is NOT an MMO nor has ANY of the previous Diablos required you to be tied to the internet or logged in to play..

why is this so hard for you morons to understand..
There are those of us that DO NOT want to be tied to a internet connection to play a single player enabled game..

If you do that's fine and dandy but why is it suddenly OK with the consumer to force that on us that dont want it.. we would be paying for the same product..

I agree with you, I would like there to be a single player (or LAN) version of the game that I could put on my laptop and take with me.
If you ask me it is because this is a necessary step in the software as a service model that all software companies are working towards. The EULA’s are already so ridiculous that they figure why not go all the way.

 

[PowerYoga]

Overall, how often are you gaming on the go and have no internet? At the airport you have internet, at the hotel you have internet, and I can't imagine you needing to whip out the laptop to diablo 3 while you're in the taxi or waiting for the train.

When you're sitting down and gaming for real... how often do you not have internet that this is a genuine problem?

People said this would be a huge problem for starcraft 2. It isn't. What makes you think this would be different for diablo 3?

 

[CVSiN]

Overall, how often are you gaming on the go and have no internet? At the airport you have internet, at the hotel you have internet, and I can't imagine you needing to whip out the laptop to diablo 3 while you're in the taxi or waiting for the train.

When you're sitting down and gaming for real... how often do you not have internet that this is a genuine problem?

People said this would be a huge problem for starcraft 2. It isn't. What makes you think this would be different for diablo 3?

as said earlier in the thread..

In my own situation we travel to many very rural areas where there are only basic cell service and no data or internet at all unless you have a dialup provider or satellite. we spend weeks at a time at these places as that is where our power plants are.

Then you have Military and other people that don't have internet access for 6-12 months at a time..

I know when I worked offshore we had 0 connectivity on the rigs as well yet plenty of downtime before bed to play.

There are plenty of places in just the USA that still dont even have high speed at all..
and LOTS of places around the world that are still tech dead zones that people do travel to with laptops that might want to play..

 

[deanx0r]

It's not like not being able to play Diablo 3 is gonna ruin people life. People who are unable to play online are a minority, and Blizzard simply made a business decision here: forcing people to play online will yield greater ROI with respect to piracy and the auction house.

All the yapping and yelling is not gonna change Blizzard's mind. If there was no money involved in the first place, there probably wouldn't be a Diablo 3.

Man, the more I read this thread, the more I think Blizzard trolled us all haha.