Diablo III requires constant internet connection

[videogames101]

Me. Played online a handful of times and always had the impatient people who would rather sprint through the dungeons than take the time to investigate everything and enjoy the game.

After that, I always played solo. Beat it a couple times on solo but never felt the urge to go online and play with a bunch of kids who were just in it for the gear and "lootz"

Just an opinion, but I would suggest you try it, because just that is what made the game so insanely popular.

 

[tedrodai]

Me. Played online a handful of times and always had the impatient people who would rather sprint through the dungeons than take the time to investigate everything and enjoy the game.

After that, I always played solo. Beat it a couple times on solo but never felt the urge to go online and play with a bunch of kids who were just in it for the gear and "lootz"

Why be so impatient with multiplayer from a handful of experiences? You have plenty of immature people who play online, sure, and even mature people can be immature at times. But, those 'impatient people' were likely just wanting to enjoy a different aspect of the game than you were. A lot of that probably has to do with how much time a person has put into the game...you may have run through the game a couple of times, whereas those people you encountered online have probably ran through the game tens or even hundreds of times.

The first few times through, you're exploring all over the place. A few more times, and you're skipping the more annoying monsters when possible. Next, you're just doing the quests, bosses, and collecting the waypoints. Eventually you're just rushing and powerleveling, and going back later when you can teleport endlessly to grab the important stuff...because the focus has shifted to making fun/different/powerful character builds and gearing those characters.

o/ guilty

That's not to say that I never played through the old-fashioned way by the time I was rushing characters...I even played solo quite a bit on multiplayer. Just learn how the system works and the multiplayer provides a lot of options. It's not impossible to find people who want to play basically the same way you do.

 

[shortylickens]

I wasnt planning to get this anyway, now my decision is sealed. SC2 was overhyped and very mediocre. The DRM was minimal but still enough to make me resent Blizzard.
I dont feel the need to be punished for not stealing games. If I want abuse I'll get a mistress and at least have some fun.

 

[tedrodai]

It has everything to do with it. It's inevitable that a game will have some bugs, and some of those bugs will be exploitable. That is okay, because they can patch those bugs and fix the exploits, possibly even roll-back characters if necessary.

If you can play without connecting and patching, than cheaters can just play without patching to the latest version that fixes the exploits.

Eh...in D2, single player/open bnet was modable, hackable (as in you could easily import user-made items or modify character stats), etc. Closed bnet required that you patched to the latest version before playing. "Not patching to the latest version" was never really ever part of the equation for either.

The "always-online" does give them a decently higher level of control over the game, but it hardly gives them the solution to cheats. Mark my words, 3rd party programs will become available for D3, and they will find ways around Blizzard's system. Bliz will still have hard work ahead of them to stop cheaters.

My guess is that the "always online" is more about DRM than anything, but it gives them a level of control they will be able to exploit for other purposes as well (anti-cheating and other things).

 

[Newbian]

I wasn't arguing against the constant online mode, just the belittlement in general of single player experiences.
Moreover, your statement doesn't make any sense. Diablo is supposed to be a story-driven, single-player / co-op series of titles. WoW is supposed to be social networking with cute glowy avatars.

Says who?

Just because earlier versions might had been single player only, mainly D1, it does not mean they have to follow the same thing.

except they advertise diablo as having SP, and WOW is a MMO, which ya know, makes your statement retarded.

If they are saying the game is online only then it looks to me like they do not advertise it as having single playing now, things change during a game development so get used to it.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

meh... less of an issue for me than them leaving out LAN for SC2.

 

[Newbian]

 

[CVSiN]

Says who?

Just because earlier versions might had been single player only, mainly D1, it does not mean they have to follow the same thing.



If they are saying the game is online only then it looks to me like they do not advertise it as having single playing now, things change during a game development so get used to it.

Its ONLINE only to protect it against mods and hacked stats etc.. they already said this.. it still has a robust single player just want to tie it to Bnet for safety. same thign they did with SC2 cant even use a trainer on SC2 SINGLE player and not get your bnet account banned for cheating..

retarded.. cant even play MY games the way I want to..thats when I hit the last straw.. cancelled WoW, uninstalled all other Blizzard products. and vowed if they pull that again on any product I would not buy it.

So here is 60 bucks that was going to be spent on D2 going elsewhere ..

 

[ikachu]

Purty pictures

Lol those penny arcade guys are on point w/ that one.

 

[CVSiN]

Just an opinion, but I would suggest you try it, because just that is what made the game so insanely popular.

why? so people can take your loot? or hack or rush me through my game?

hell no..
If i wanted that I'd play WoW.

back then it was hackers that would flat turn on god mode and kill you and grief you.
..
yah online was so much fun..

 

[Dumac]

Again, that's an opinion. Just because you believe it doesn't make it so for everyone.

Of course it is just an opinion.

Everything here is.

Its the same as saying that its my opinion that CS would be boring to play single-player with no bots.

Or that playing an MMO single player on a private server would be boring.

Or that four in a row would be boring to play by myself.

Even games with a lot of great single player content (unlike D2) such as Demon's Souls become much better with multiplayer.

Single player D2 really only gives you a small part of the picture.

Of course, these are all opinions.

 

[Dumac]

why? so people can take your loot? or hack or rush me through my game?

hell no..
If i wanted that I'd play WoW.

back then it was hackers that would flat turn on god mode and kill you and grief you.
..
yah online was so much fun..

I've played Diablo for years online, and never had any of that happen to me (unless I wanted it to).

 

[Dumac]

Its ONLINE only to protect it against mods and hacked stats etc.. they already said this.. it still has a robust single player just want to tie it to Bnet for safety. same thign they did with SC2 cant even use a trainer on SC2 SINGLE player and not get your bnet account banned for cheating..

retarded.. cant even play MY games the way I want to..thats when I hit the last straw.. cancelled WoW, uninstalled all other Blizzard products. and vowed if they pull that again on any product I would not buy it.

So here is 60 bucks that was going to be spent on D2 going elsewhere ..

Good riddance

 

[CVSiN]

Good riddance

WTF are you or anyone else to tell me or anyone else how we can play our single player games?

I love to use the trainer in skirmish mode against 3-4 nightmare opponents..

I pay real money just like you to play HOW I want..

I don't play online ever.. so whats the fucking big deal?

 

[Chiropteran]

Eh...in D2, single player/open bnet was modable, hackable (as in you could easily import user-made items or modify character stats), etc. Closed bnet required that you patched to the latest version before playing. "Not patching to the latest version" was never really ever part of the equation for either.

The "always-online" does give them a decently higher level of control over the game, but it hardly gives them the solution to cheats. Mark my words, 3rd party programs will become available for D3, and they will find ways around Blizzard's system. Bliz will still have hard work ahead of them to stop cheaters.

My guess is that the "always online" is more about DRM than anything, but it gives them a level of control they will be able to exploit for other purposes as well (anti-cheating and other things).

Being bug/hack free REQUIRES always online.

Always online does NOT mean bug/hack free.

Just because your rectangle isn't a square doesn't mean there are squares which are not also rectangles.

Your girlfriend might have tits and not be a porn star, but that doesn't mean you can be a female porn star without tits.

Your pet might be a dog and not bark, but that doesn't mean you can have a non-dog pet that barks.

 

[shortylickens]

Being bug/hack free REQUIRES always online.

Always online does NOT mean bug/hack free.

Just because your rectangle isn't a square doesn't mean there are squares which are not also rectangles.

Your girlfriend might have tits and not be a porn star, but that doesn't mean you can be a female porn star without tits.

Your pet might be a dog and not bark, but that doesn't mean you can have a non-dog pet that barks.

www.BeeStingPorn.com

 

[Newbian]

WTF are you or anyone else to tell me or anyone else how we can play our single player games?

I love to use the trainer in skirmish mode against 3-4 nightmare opponents..

I pay real money just like you to play HOW I want..

I don't play online ever.. so whats the fucking big deal?

The thing is the single player game is still linked to online achievements and many games do the same thing, heck even xbox does this to prevent people from cheating to get pointless achievements.

Just because you want to play how you want does not mean you are allowed to when it connects to a online feature and it's against the rules you agreed to when you installed the game.

 

[Rifter]

This is retarded. As i said in the other thread games with single player option have no need of always on DRM, its bullshit and blizzard is stupid for doing it.

And for all those who are saying its to keep hacking under control you are dreaming, there is still going to be hacking this will barely slow it down. There is absolutly zero reason they couldnt have went with a open and closed bnet just like D2. You want to play single player then you use your character stored on your pc, you want to play online then use bnet and there is no interaction between the two. Simple solution thats already been established with open/closed bnet of d2.

And for those of you saying you always have a internet connection you need to get out of your basement sometime and see what the real world is like. I travel a fair bit and game alot on my laptop when i do, usually i do not have an internet connection at this time as i am out of cell range so no aircard or tethering will work. Sometimes i'll spend days away from home and will play single player games during these times, there is no reason a single player game should require a internet connection. I mean think about it, im playing single player, what are they trying to accomplish stopping me from cheating with myself? thats the most stupid thing i have ever herd in my life.

Also CVSiN is totally correct. If you want to cheat in a single player game then who are they to stop you? sure the achievements are online but there is a simple solution to that, when you use cheats then void all achievements. There are tons of single player games that do this already there is no reason blizzard could not do that as well. Once i beat a game i like to go back and replay sometimes with cheats to test out exactly how the ai works or just to have some fun with mods. Why should blizzard care what im doing when it has exactly zero effect on anyone else.

I will probably still buy D3 but hope they come to there senses and kill the always on DRM, they did with SC2 eventually so there is still hope.

 

[Anubis]

people actually care enough about achievements that they are using that as a defense for no offline mode

LOL wow thats pathetic

id gladly trade achievements in this game or any game from now till the end of time for an offline mode

 

[Rifter]

people actually care enough about achievements that they are using that as a defense for no offline mode

LOL wow thats pathetic

id gladly trade achievements in this game or any game from now till the end of time for an offline mode

yeah i know, sad isnt it.

 

[gothamhunter]

Are we still complaining about this?

It should be this simple, you are either:

A. Not going to buy it because you want to play single player too often when you don't have Internet

B. Not going to buy it because of some code of ethics you have for game companies.

C. Going to buy it because you don't care

/thread

 

[Nebor]

WTF are you or anyone else to tell me or anyone else how we can play our single player games?

I love to use the trainer in skirmish mode against 3-4 nightmare opponents..

I pay real money just like you to play HOW I want..

I don't play online ever.. so whats the fucking big deal?

Like I said earlier, I feel like there's a small market for an "offline only version" priced 60-70% higher than the regular version. If it were priced around $95 USD and had no online\multiplayer capabilities at all, it might be worth Blizzard's effort to make it.

 

[BoberFett]

Lol those penny arcade guys are on point w/ that one.

Really? Did you actually read the update?

What is true, absolutely true, is that Blizzard does not allow people to play Diablo III while they are not connected live to their servers. It is at this point that interpretation, reason, and cynicism create a drifting mobile of warring, caustic realities.

To put things diplomatically, this is a matter about which Gabriel and I do not agree. The growing ubiquity of Internet access keeps him from feeling any tremendous sympathy for the increasingly thin band of edge cases. Plus, and this may be applied as a generality, he is unfond of hippies and this type of complaint is situated in the continuum of Hippie-Type Shit, like how James tipped your bong after a monster rip and the whole fucking thing is seriously like whatever.

For my part, and I’m not, like, The Lord or anything, but the gulf between able to install a Spawn copy of the game and not being able to play offline at all seems pretty deep. Don’t really know what else to tell you. I saw that Blizzard came out with a response response, expressing their surprise at the consumer reaction, when this is more or less how consumers react every single time they learn the precise circumference of their golden leash.

By their own admission, Diablo isn’t not really focused around a PVP experience; if you’re playing with someone who has duped items or whatever, all it means is that you will be more likely to defeat Satan. Without a means to gain advantage over another, “cheating” as a concept becomes substantially more opaque. Who is the cheated party, precisely? Satan the Devil? Fuck him, who cares.

Who is being cheated? This is the part of the movie where, in a series of retrospective realizations cut with you looking at your own face in the rearview mirror, you come bit by bit to the heart of it. The person you are cheating is Blizzard, Blizzard in the aggregate, with your attempts to interfere with their digital marketplace. You mustn’t play offline or goof around with your files or any other naughty business because they are endeavoring to transform your putative ownership into a revenue stream.

There, now don’t you feel better?

You know, you're right, they were on point.

 

[gothamhunter]

Really? Did you actually read the update?



You know, you're right, they were on point.

Did you actually read it?

The comic was from one author and the post was from another; they're each on the opposite side regarding it. They're both on point in their own mindset.

 

[BoberFett]

Did you actually read it?

The comic was from one author and the post was from another; they're each on the opposite side regarding it. They're both on point in their own mindset.

Yep, I read it. The one actually had cogent points while the other apparently assumes gamers are mindless sheep who'll buy it anyway. Eh, makes no difference to me. Blizzard hasn't gotten a dime from me in many years, this game won't change that.