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fskimospy

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The GOP can't filibuster committee chairs. Each party assigns , thru a resolutions it's committee members. This includes the judicial committee. If she is removed, they would just have to assign someone else to fill the vacant seat from the party.
This is not accurate. The assignments to the committees come through an organizing resolution passed by the entire senate which can and almost certainly would be filibustered.
 

NWRMidnight

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As long as the GOP obstruct a replacement for the committee she's stuck till her term ends. Running in the first place in 18 instead of retiring was the mistake and it can't be undone now.
They can't obstruct a replacement.. The only committee members the GOP has anything to do with is the 10 they pick as the minority party.
 

NWRMidnight

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Can you show me the source of this information? It goes against everything I have read on the issue.
You are correct that committee members are elected by the full senate, I misunderstood the assigning of members by party, and what it was saying. I apologize. However, committee members are usually those with the most seniority, with each party choosing their members, and it is done by ballot, there is no option of filibustering that I can see, as it's not put up to the full senate to debate.

 

fskimospy

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You are correct that committee members are elected by the full senate, I misunderstood the assigning of members by party, and what it was saying. I apologize. However, committee members are usually those with the most seniority, with each party choosing their members, and it is done by ballot, there is no option of filibustering that I can see, as it's not put up to the full senate to debate.

As per the article:

Senators are formally elected to standing committees by the entire membership of the Senate

Any new member of the judiciary committee would require a full vote, which means it can be filibustered. The odds of republicans filibustering it seem extremely high.
 
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NWRMidnight

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As per the article:



Any new member of the judiciary committee would require a full vote, which means it can be filibustered. The odds of republicans filibustering it seem extremely high.
I already said you where right about the full senate (actually it's senate aquarium, which is 51 Senators minimum) did you not read that in my response? It's not a vote that goes the floor for debate. the vote is called for the committee chairs which are assigned their respective party, and done by ballot, and the results are tallied. I don't see any avenue that allows a path to filibuster. Electing committee seats isn't like having a floor discussion/debate and vote for legislation, or judge's nominee where they ask them questions and decide to confirm them.
 

fskimospy

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I already said you where right about the full senate (actually it's senate aquarium, which is 51 Senators minimum) did you not read that in my response? It's not a vote that goes the floor for debate. the vote is called for the chairs made up by the Senators chosen by their respective party, and done by ballot, and the results are tallied. I don't see any avenue that allows a path to filibuster. Electing committee seats isn't like having a floor discussion and vote for legislation, or judge's nominee where they ask them questions and decide to confirm them.
I guess I’m not understanding you then? Any full vote by the senate can be filibustered unless it’s explicitly exempted like judges or budget reconciliation. This would be a vote like any other.
 

NWRMidnight

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I guess I’m not understanding you then? Any full vote by the senate can be filibustered unless it’s explicitly exempted like judges or budget reconciliation. This would be a vote like any other.
What is a filibuster.. it's unlimited debate time. There is no floor debate in committee chair elections.
 

fskimospy

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What is a filibuster.. it's unlimited debate time. There is not debate in committee seat elections.
There usually isn’t but that’s because everyone just agrees to skip it. If a member insists on debate, and one absolutely would, filibuster time.
 

NWRMidnight

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There usually isn’t but that’s because everyone just agrees to skip it. If a member insists on debate, and one absolutely would, filibuster time.
Where did you pull that idea from? Any debating that takes place where committee chairs are concerned, is within the party when they assign their party members to those chairs. All the vote in the full Senate is for is to say "yes, I agree with these assignments, or I don't". There is nothing for them to debate because they have no say in who the other party assigns to those chairs. All they get to do, is vote to accept or not accept those assignments, that's it.
 

fskimospy

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Where did you pull that idea from? Any debating that takes place where committee chairs are concerned, is within the party when they assign their party members to those chairs. All the vote in the full Senate is for is to say "yes, I agree with these assignments, or I don't". There is nothing for them to debate because they have no say in who the other party assigns to those chairs. All they get to do, is vote to accept or not accept those assignments, that's it.
Right and a new senator would need assignments, which require a vote, which would be filibustered.
 

NWRMidnight

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Right and a new senator would need assignments, which require a vote, which would be filibustered.
Where do they get those assignments? Answer: From their party, if the party has any open committee chairs, assignments are not dictated by the Full Senate, or the other party. All the Full Senate vote is for is "yes" or "no" I accept their assignment.. There is NO debate.
 

fskimospy

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Where do they get those assignments? Answer: From their party, via the parties open committee chairs, it is not dictated by the Full Senate, or the other party. All the Full Senate vote is for is "yes" or "no" I accept their assignment.. There is NO debate.
Until a member says ‘I would like to debate this’.
 

NWRMidnight

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Until a member says ‘I would like to debate this’.
how do you debate something that can't be debated by the full senate? There is nothing for the full senate to debate because neither party gets to dictate who the other party assigns to committee chairs, that is all done within the party. All the full senate does is vote to agree or disagree with the assignments, and majority wins the vote.
 

fskimospy

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how do you debate something that can't be debated by the full senate? There is nothing for the full senate to debate because neither party gets to dictate who the other party assigns to committee chairs, that is all done within the party. All the full senate does is vote to agree or disagree with the assignments, and majority wins the vote.
Where are you getting the idea this can’t be debated from? That’s just wrong.
 

NWRMidnight

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Where are you getting the idea this can’t be debated from? That’s just wrong.
IF you say so.. but if that is true.. why have we NEVER had a debate or a filibuster for committee chair assignments? Is it because those committee chair assignments are given by the party in which those chairs represent, and not by the full Senate? could it also be because the rules are also different based on the Party who has the majority?
 

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If I'm not mistaken, the committee assignments are typically waved through via unanimous consent (usually at the beginning of the session, rarely in the case of death, etc.). Any member can say "nope, sorry" and then it's up to normal rules. Just because things have worked like that in the past when things were cordial, doesn't mean it has to stay that way forever.
 

fskimospy

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If replacements can be filibustered how does ANYONE manage to get seated?
They are generally uncontroversial and nobody cares. The reason here is the right cares a HUGE amount about judges and so the prospect of being able to block all further judicial appointments despite not controlling the senate is very attractive to them.
 
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K1052

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They are generally uncontroversial and nobody cares. The reason here is the right cares a HUGE amount about judges and so the prospect of being able to block all further judicial appointments despite not controlling the senate is very attractive to them.

Yeah if this was Finance or Commerce they wouldn't give a shit.
 
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IronWing

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Once again, the Dems need to kill the filibuster. Mitch doesn’t hesitate to waive it as suits his agenda and the Dems need to stop shooting themselves in the face and use the authorities that the voters entrusted in them.
 
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K1052

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Once again, the Dems need to kill the filibuster. Mitch doesn’t hesitate to waive it as suits his agenda and the Dems need to stop shooting themselves in the face and use the authorities that the voters entrusted in them.

This has been obvious for a while but too many D senators have senate brain worms about how the body is supposed to function even though the Rs have largely abandoned those standards. I mean Durbin won't even ditch blue slips for judicial nominees when the Rs already stopped honoring them when they hold power.
 
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