Dianne Feinstein Withholding Letter Accusing Brett Kavanaugh of Sexual Misconduct

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fskimospy

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She hasn't specified either a date or a place so it makes it impossible for him to have an alibi or to prove that he wasn't involved.

Well good news, they can both go before the Senate and testify to that information and more under oath! Maybe we can get Kavanaugh to perjure himself a few more times than he already has, haha.
 
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FerrelGeek

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Darwin333

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She hasn't specified either a date or a place so it makes it impossible for him to have an alibi or to prove that he wasn't involved.

How the hell does one remember an alibi from high school 36 years ago? Without checking my bank statement for debit card purchases and/or work records I couldn't give you an alibi for a specific date a year ago. Maybe if it was on a weekend I would have been at a softball tournament but again, without checking my bank records I wouldn't be able to recall off the top of my head.
 

woolfe9998

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Well good news, they can both go before the Senate and testify to that information and more under oath! Maybe we can get Kavanaugh to perjure himself a few more times than he already has, haha.

Just read that Kavanaugh told Orin Hatch that he believes the accuser is mistaking him for someone else, because he was never at that party. Which is odd since she hasn't specified the exact year or location.
 

fskimospy

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Just read that Kavanaugh told Orin Hatch that he believes the accuser is mistaking him for someone else, because he was never at that party. Which is odd since she hasn't specified the exact year or location.

Okay now this is just getting stupid. Of all the possible things Kavanaugh could have said in response to this the ONE THING you don't want to do is make your alibi an easily disprovable lie.

I start to wonder if it's not just that these people have been getting away with it their whole lives so they don't even think it's necessary to lie convincingly anymore.
 

HomerJS

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How the hell does one remember an alibi from high school 36 years ago? Without checking my bank statement for debit card purchases and/or work records I couldn't give you an alibi for a specific date a year ago. Maybe if it was on a weekend I would have been at a softball tournament but again, without checking my bank records I wouldn't be able to recall off the top of my head.
You may not remember the exact date and time but if someone pins you down, rips off your clothes and covers your mouth to prevent screaming you will remember that.
 

woolfe9998

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Okay now this is just getting stupid. Of all the possible things Kavanaugh could have said in response to this the ONE THING you don't want to do is make your alibi an easily disprovable lie.

I start to wonder if it's not just that these people have been getting away with it their whole lives so they don't even think it's necessary to lie convincingly anymore.

Yup, here it is:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...istaken-identity-in-sexual-assault-accusation

He seems to have gone from "I didn't do it" to "I was not at that party."

Pretty amusing to listen to Taj revel in the fact that she didn't give the exact year or location, then to have Kavanaugh say this. LOL
 

Cozarkian

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Just read that Kavanaugh told Orin Hatch that he believes the accuser is mistaking him for someone else, because he was never at that party. Which is odd since she hasn't specified the exact year or location.

To be fair, all he has to know is that he was never at a party where it was her and 4 boys.
 
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sportage

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REGARDLESS....
Diane is most likely pulling a delay tactic.
Not that surprising, in the game of dirty politics. They all do it.
BUT.... probably a long shot for democrats.
Democrats HOPE they can delay, THEN retake the house and senate in November, then kill off this entire choice of Donald Trump.
THAT IS.... " if " democrats retake the house and senate.....
Which I believe is very doubtful.
 

Starbuck1975

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I didn't see an explicit "this is why", but the reasons are made plain by events. Ford (the accuser) told Feinstein her story but did not want to come forward at the time. Feinstein could have brought forward an accusation which was anonymous and unverifiable without revealing the source. Then two things happened. The existence of the letter was leaked and the letter itself forwarded to the FBI. It was only now that Ford wanted to come out and testify and that lead to where we are now.
The existence of the letter was leaked. By who I wonder. Ford became a useful pawn in a high stakes gambit.
 

cfenton

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This hurts the Democrats if under oath, the accusations fall apart, and Kavanaugh still moves forward. Political gambits are only worth it if they work.

If Kavanaugh survives this, expect Feinstein to fall under scrutiny, not to mention that the juvenile records of political leaders are now fair game, which I expect the GOP to start exploiting as an attack vector.

I just don't see how it hurts the Democrats if the accusation falls apart under oath. There was a credible accusation and they called for an investigation. That's what they are supposed to do. If the allegations are false, then everyone did their due diligence and got to the truth. Kavanaugh gets confirmed, and nothing changes other than the date of confirmation. But, if the allegations are true, then it's pretty important the Senate doesn't rush through the confirmation before finding that out. Presumably, even the GOP don't want to openly endorse a sex offender to be on the Supreme Court. An investigation might make the Democrats less popular with the GOP base, but they were never going to vote for a Democrat in the first place.
 

Cozarkian

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Ahem.

Clarence Thomas.

That was a special case. The Democrats controlled the Senate, so the Republicans needed to find a black conservative judge.

In this case, a replacement white conservative judge should be much easier to find.
 

Lanyap

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You mean even after I posted it. Moi! Redonkulous.

You do realize that you linked to a sketchy right wing website, right?


I wonder how the FBI will investigate the incident. The date, the House, possible witnesses... I think it’s still going to boil down to he said she said and since he and his friend were both falling down drunk I don’t think they will remember anything about the party and incident anyway.
 

Lanyap

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Yup, here it is:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...istaken-identity-in-sexual-assault-accusation

He seems to have gone from "I didn't do it" to "I was not at that party."

Pretty amusing to listen to Taj revel in the fact that she didn't give the exact year or location, then to have Kavanaugh say this. LOL


From that article.
“He told Senator Hatch he was not at a party like the one she describes, and that Dr. Ford, who acknowledged to the Washington Post that she did not remember some key details of the incident may be mistaking him for someone else.”
 

Bitek

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Yes. But there is no written record of her mentioning him by name back in 2012. Her husband, I think, has come out and said that she said his name to him, but that is not as convincing as if there was a written record of her naming him in 2012.

Not convincing when the woman is seeing a therapist over the incident?

Paying $200 bucks a session is a big investment to try and build a fake backstory for a fake accusation six years in the future.
 

Muse

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https://theintercept.com/2018/09/12/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-dianne-feinstein/

WTF!?!? Why is the woman still a senator of my state? She is literally satan, I wouldn't be surprised if she voted for Kavanuagh. We need to clean house in november. I hope everybody is voting because I can't wait to vote this old warmongering hag out of office but I need help. I can't do it alone.
Dude, WTF is with YOU?! She was respecting the woman's desire for privacy. She only released the letter after the woman requested her to do so, which was a couple of days ago by which time info had leaked and reporters were bugging her (Ford). Evidently you have been lunching with Satan yourself.
 

Muse

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Not convincing when the woman is seeing a therapist over the incident?

Paying $200 bucks a session is a big investment to try and build a fake backstory for a fake accusation six years in the future.
Look... she passed a polygraph on this a couple months ago. She's entirely legit. She's a professor of clinical psychology at Palo Alto University. She's on the up and up. If she was really after him she could have said he raped her. I trust her completely. She has nothing to gain by lying and everything to lose. Kavanaugh is just a complete asshole. He's perjured himself in the court of public opinion by denying that he did this. If the Republicans shoe horn him into the court now they are utterly scum.
 

Bitek

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Look... she passed a polygraph on this a couple months ago. She's entirely legit. She's a professor of clinical psychology at Palo Alto University. She's on the up and up. If she was really after him she could have said he raped her. I trust her completely. She has nothing to gain by lying and everything to lose. Kavanaugh is just a complete asshole. He's perjured himself in the court of public opinion by denying that he did this. If the Republicans shoe horn him into the court now they are utterly scum.

Maybe she used her secret phycology superpowers to see the future and trick a lie detector just to get vengeance on Trump because she's a lib and hates freedom

/right-wingnutjob
 

Muse

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Yeah, well, the person who should be taking a lie detector test now is Brett K. But you know that won't happen because he'd fail.

The odd fact is that a polygraph test of DJT would be super weird because his grasp of reality is so tenuous. Does he even have a clear idea in his head what a lie is? The guy is really a case.
 

FIVR

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Dude, WTF is with YOU?! She was respecting the woman's desire for privacy. She only released the letter after the woman requested her to do so, which was a couple of days ago by which time info had leaked and reporters were bugging her (Ford). Evidently you have been lunching with Satan yourself.
It sounded like she was withholding it from fellow democrats on behalf of Kavanaugh. She is well known as a collaborator with the republicans.

I admitted in a later post that she was smart to hold the accusations, but I still think she's an awful person and a terrible representative.
 
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