http://jobrelatedstuff.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1409221&page=2
Says that The Lodge = only 13% of Dick's revenue. Shareholders don't give a fck about this, the overall publicity boost for everything else DSG sells > disgruntled gun nuts such as OP who got $100 of free ammo.
I think another good FAQ item in OP would be to point out that they mailed you a check and a gift card but you haven't cashed either.
You fail at reading comprehension. The DSG referred to in your link is DSG ARMS, which is not Dick's Sporting Goods.
They are bitching about the same deal. It's the same thing. 13% of DSG revenue = nobody cares about this except you and a few other gun nuts. Dick's will have even less selection in the next year and could eventually phase gun sales out altogether. Get used to it.
I still don't know why you keep sticking up for this company and their business practices.
The practice where they refunded your money and then some? Shame on them...
Nobody is saying that you don't have a legal right to pursue this, but you make it sound like they stole from you. Their overall business practices are fine for the overwhelming majority of all shoppers.
That's what they're counting on. The $100 will appease most people into just giving up any legal claim they have because it's $100 and the time and effort isn't worth it for most. However, when the item is at risk of being banned due to the current political climate and/or can't be found at other retailers, it's not like $100 makes you feel better when you really want said item.
You have no idea what you are speaking about as always. DSG stands to lose quite a bit of money on this if things continue on their current path. Possible litigation from customers, from Troy, from any other suppliers affected, and from fines from the FTC. On top of that, they stand to not only lose all future guns sales, as they aren't supposedly stopping all gun sales just AR15's, but also ammo, and accessories for all gun sales. That's just from the normal gun buyers. Then you have regular people who aren't gun buyers that see this information and decide as well they won't shop there. It's a loss of even more sales that aren't even gun related. Then when you factor in other suppliers see how DSG has treated others in the business and they will start to think about their contracts as well with DSG and what it means to them.
Also, that 13% of gun sales is a claimed number on the internet with no link to back it up or nothing to give any authoritative weight to it. It may be a true number, but even if it is, that doesn't matter. And 13% even if a true number is very huge to a national chain. Especially if they are still looking to expand and grow in the market.
It ends up being a huge potential loss for them and is going to bite them hard in the ass. I still don't know why you keep sticking up for this company and their business practices.
I'm not sticking up for Dick's, in fact their prices are horribly overpriced and Amazon beats them on most items so I haven't been there in 5 years. I also like guns and going to the firing range with my Benelli, but I'm smart enough to know that gun prices will come back down to earth once the neocon sheeple have run out of talking points.
The bottom line is that you need to face reality here. Dick's is running a business and if the Lodge is only 13% of their sales (and that's not all including guns), then guess where you (and other people who didn't get their guns) are on the radar? It's smart marketing to use a political event to cater to their audience (i.e. all their customers minus gun nuts), hell it's in the Risks section of their 2011 Annual Report ("political instability" in bold after the gun risks).
Furthermore, their annual report says that e-commerce increased 36% from 2010-2011 and 38% the year before. Golf Galaxy was a 4.x% increase and 5.x% the year before. They are focusing on these areas, not the Lodge. "Hardline sales" segments, while comprising of about half of their sales (everything but Apparel and Footwear) revenue has remained steady but not increased such as Apparel and Footwear. The bottom line is that the majority of their business is growing in other areas.
2011 Annual Report:
http://www.allianceproxy.com/dcsg/2012/ar2011/HTML2/default.htm
In the end, it won't affect their long term growth which has continually increased in the past 5 years. Your faux outrage will equate to nothing more than a blip on their radar. I would suggest supporting your local gun shop/range instead and save yourself the headache of dealing with big retailers who have shit for customer service, and have the power to not care b/c the general populace still aren't smart enough to operate a computer (and buy an item cheaper online).
It's illegal to do so without a stipulation at the time of the sale that allows them to do so and both parties agreeing to that stipulation. They took orders from customers telling them they were to be fulfilled. That's a business promise.
This is so wrong that it just offends me to read it.
When I first visited this thread, I did so hoping I can give you some advice on how to resolve this amicably. Then I read all your childish bluster and ranting after Dick's made a good faith offer to maintain customer loyalty, which you steadfastly refused to compromise on, despite having absolutely no legal leg to stand on. They do not owe you thing. This is not dissimilar from when I tried to piggyback a great online deal on a TV and the seller canceled its orders. With very few exceptions, they can do that.
Now, the mfg'er may have a contractual (i.e. specific performance/liquidated damages) claim against DSG as its distributor (which couldn't be intrepeted without reading the actual contract). However, your "rights" are not the same as theirs.
Because of the potential PR hit, DSG will propbably cave to negative publicity and offer an even sweeter settlement to its customers, under no legal obligation to do so. But it still really bothers me that a person with the character traits you are displaying in this thread is going to have access to this very powerful rifle. I personally hope this is all an internet tough guy facade and you are actually way more mature around firearms.
i just had my order for the final issue of Nintendo Power cancelled. i want what i paid for. $7.99 doesn't come easy, Nintendo. you hear me!? i want my magazine dammit. wah
and your point is what again? How exactly does there sales revenue have any bearing on their legally binding agreements?
Also, using sales figures at times that haven't had problems like this is silly. Neither you nor I nor DSG knows what the fall out over this will be until it is over. Until then, myself and many others will try to make the fallout as painful as possible for DSG as they continue down their course of action.
Will we just be a drop in sales that doesn't matter along with the penalties that may be assessed? That may very well be the outcome to them overall, but I will still have my product. It may also be that this turns into something that completely breaks them. I highly doubt that, but either way, I will still have my product. My overall number 1 objective is to have my product and I've stated it as much. If DSG losses a little revenue over this fiasco as well I am fine with that. If they lose a whole bunch I'm fine with that too. That is just all ancillary to the main reason I am going after DSG. Which is to have my product.
You claim to not be defending them, but then you turn around and defend them. It leaves me confused as to your motives here. Also the fact that you, along with several other posters came into this thread with the intention to troll, flame, and hurl insults when no provocation was directly given by myself or anyone in agreement with my OP also leads me to be curious about your overall motives as well. When individuals came in here and started calling me dickhead, gun nut, and other derogatory terms while at the same time trying to insinuate that I was the one with the anger issues despite ever post I had made thus far had been calm, clear, and concise leads me to wonder about the mental state of many posters including yourself. Especially since you claim to be a gun owner of many guns and enjoys using guns.
If our suppliers, distributors, or manufacturers do not provide us with sufficient quantities of products, or if the cost of the products are adversely affected by foreign trade issues, increasing prices for raw materials, political instability or other reasons, our sales and profitability may suffer.
The bottom line is that they are a successful company and not you, nor the people who want their AR15, are going to affect them in the long run by crying about it to a lawyer. You are fighting an uphill battle. You got shitty customer service because you chose to shop there, and they can afford to not care about you. Their annual report has legally prepared for Risk from 3rd party suppliers and political instability regarding guns and other items, did you read it? Here-
They are legally prepared to blame this on Troy and Newtown and there isn't shit you can do about it. You can kick and scream all you want and maybe you'll get more boxes of ammo out of it. In the end, you will be the loser because Dick's just took your time. How much is your time worth? Go spend a little more money and get a Benelli instead of a Troy, Troy can't even get a freaking rail barrel nut right:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/577584_.html
Nope, I don't own "many guns", just a few. But I don't buy cheap shit that I have to constantly worry about either, and then waste more time claiming company xyz "owes" me something when said cheap shit isn't delivered. My time isn't worth it but obviously yours is. Carry on.
Did you get your gun yet?