Dick's is a bunch of *****.

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GagHalfrunt

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You lost it when you compared yourself to civil rights leaders, you stupid piece of shit. There is no reason to continue after that. You'll think up whatever idiocy to justify yourself.

Let's be fair, he lost this argument LONG LONG ago. The MLK comment was when he went from being a greedy, crying petulant child to being completely delusional. And it lends further credence to my assertion that he's got no case and NEVER will file one. Because that comment would get him absolutely annihilated in court and if he had a real lawyer that lawyer would have slapped a gag on his clueless ass long ago.
 

Yourself

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Anyone that lets others roll over their rights and the rights of others are sheep. Nice try at hyperbole there, but it isn't a logical equivalent at all. Putting a generic set of people in a category with a label to describe a behavior is far from the same thing as direct name calling at the person you are trying to have a conversation or debate with. It's just one of those nuances you may one day learn.

Nice back peddle.
 

HumblePie

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Let's be fair, he lost this argument LONG LONG ago. The MLK comment was when he went from being a greedy, crying petulant child to being completely delusional. And it lends further credence to my assertion that he's got no case and NEVER will file one. Because that comment would get him absolutely annihilated in court and if he had a real lawyer that lawyer would have slapped a gag on his clueless ass long ago.


Oh you again? Hrmm, every single troll in my thread has mostly thus far been from CT, LA, or other strict gun control nutty places. The only one seeming to be a crying petulant child is you over my actions to stand up for my rights and the rights of others. All because the basis for my decision was myself and many others being screwed over legally over a firearm purchase. It's that last little bit that has thrown you and many others here into a foaming at the mouth hissy fit that has nothing better to do than insult me out of false moral umbrage.

Your belief of what I will and won't do have no bearing at all on reality of what I plan to do. Nor will your name calling and smear attempts dissuade me from my course of action.
 

HumblePie

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Nice back peddle.

How is that a back peddle?

You are the one trying to say that stating "people that don't stand of for their rights are sheep" is equivalent in the same as calling someone directly an "asshole" or "dickhead" or any other numerous insults hurled at me in this thread.

Logic isn't one of your stronger skills is it?
 

HumblePie

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without going back through the thread, I read over at SD the class action is no-go. Is that the case?

One guy that was trying to start a class action stopped it because by the law he was in, he can't file a class action without more people in the current state as part of the action. I think only 3 people from his state joined him out of the 100+ or so. Which wasn't enough.

So he's doing like me and handling it through single file action only. Others have expressed their intention to do the same. Which in reality is a bigger head ache for Dick's that way.
 

HumblePie

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Veiled or direct, an insult is an insult.

An insult is an insult. But not all insults are equal.

Name calling is one form of an insult, and taking a quip is another form. Name calling is considered the lowest form of debate and what is resorted to when one has lost the argument. Making an insult is not considered the same thing. Why? Because no matter what you say in this world, whatever it is will have a chance to insult someone. That's the fact of it. Pointing out your current lack of logical reasoning skills, although you may be a full functioning logical person in other regards, is an insult. But one with a purpose as it is used as part of illustrating a point in how your failure in this part invalidates what you said before. Calling someone an asshole doesn't demonstrate the same thing but only makes the person hurling the name look like they've lost the argument.
 

Thebobo

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Here we have it ladies and gentleman, a classic case of Forum bullying.

Notice the ganging up, name calling and insults. Notice the internet chest beating. notice the oh shit never mind carry on....
 

HumblePie

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Here we have it ladies and gentleman, a classic case of Forum bullying.

Notice the ganging up, name calling and insults. Notice the internet chest beating. notice the oh shit never mind carry on....

I got a laugh.
 

HumblePie

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Okay it's update time finally.

Dick's has responded back to my lawyer. They stated the following. I attempted to clean it up as the copy and paste is from a PDF and for some reason words were misspelled, left off, or changed with the copy and paste from the google PDF letter. I also redacted private info.

In response to your letter dated January 7, 2013, Dick’s Sporting Goods, inc. (“Dìck's") denies your allegation that breached its contract with Mr. XXXXX, violated the Uniform Commercial Code and Texas Deceptive Trade Practice Act ("DTPA&#8221. Dick's did cancel the special order placed and paid for by Mr. XXXXX for a Troy AR-15. The decision to cancel the special orders for the Troy AR-15 was a difficult decision that was caused by a number of events that had little control over.

First, we offered the Troy AR-15 at a competitive price on Black Friday. At the time that we decided to offer the Troy as a Black Friday special, we purchased from Troy industries inventory of the firearm in a quantity that we believed to be sufficient to meet the anticipated demand. had never offered a gun to the Troy AR-15 (a modern sporting rifle) as a Black Friday special. So, we had no history to use when making our inventory decision. Unfortunately, the demand for the Troy AR-15 was significantly greater than we anticipated.

Second, due to the length of time required to complete a firearm transaction, during the week leading up to Slack Friday we pre-sold the Troy AR-15 to reduce the number of transactions that would occur at our store during the Black Friday weekend. It was during the pre-sale that we realized we may have underestimated the demand for the AR-15, and we decided based on conversations with Troy industries that, if necessary, we would accept special orders of the Troy AR-15 during the course of the weekend. Our special order process allows a customer to order and pay for a product in our store. Then the special order is sent to a manufacturer or distributor who fulfills the special order by sending the product directly to the stores, at which time the customer is notified to pick up the special order. Based on representation made by Troy industries, we began to accept special orders of the Troy AR-15's and submitted the orders to Troy Industries for manufacturing. During the weeks following Black Friday, Troy Industries fulfilled a number of the special orders.

Third, on December 14, 2012, the tragic events at Newton, CT occurred. On December 17, 2012, out of respect for the victims and their families, suspended the sale of modern sporting rifles in all of our stores chain wide. We determined at that time that, if possible, we would fulfill outstanding special orders for modern sporting rifles, including the Troy AR-15, that had been placed and paid for in full prior to our suspension.

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Fourth, at about the same time, Troy Industries informed us that they stopped manufacturing the Troy AR-15 due to a shortage in a component part, the bolt. According to Troy Industries, in order to purchase the bolt to complete the manufacturing of the Troy AR-15 to the outstanding special orders, Troy Industries needed a decision from us to our future plans related to modern sporting rifles. In light of very recent decision to suspend the of modern sporting rifles, and the uncertain regulatory environment, Dick's was not prepared to determine if or when its suspension would end and therefore could not provide any assurances to Troy industries. 0n December 21, 2012, Troy Industries informed Dick’s that it was unable to complete the manufacturing of the Troy AR-15's and fulfill our customers’ special orders.

Based on all of the foregoing, on December 21, 2012, Dick's sent letters to all customers with unfulfilled Troy special orders informing the customers that we cancelled their orders and either issued a full refund on their credit or debit card or, if the customer paid cash, included a check for the cost of the Troy AR-15. We also enclosed a $100 Dick's Gift Card as a customer accommodation. Our actions to inform customers of our inability to fulfill their special orders and provide a full refund were done promptly following confirmation from Troy Industries that it was unable to complete the manufacturing of any more Troy AR-15's. As such, Dick's denies that it breached its contract with Mr. XXXXX or violated the Uniform Commercial Code.

ln addition, you letter alleges that Dick's violated various provisions of the DTPA, but does not provide specific information as to what misrepresentations or omissions were made by Dicks. There is no information as to what warranties were misrepresented, what sponsorships were misrepresented, what information was omitted, and so forth. As such, we cannot respond to your broad allegation related to the DTPA without specific details as to the alleged violation.

Basically what they posted in a response in no way absolves them of their legal responsibility. The only thing that could resolve them is if Troy really was unable to fulfill orders. However, Troy has publicly stated that was not the case and were fulfilling orders.

Current next steps for me are the following. There is still a week or so left we have to legally allow them time to settle the demand before I can file for litigation. In the meantime, I'm arranging for several depositions to be taken. First is from Troy stating that they were fulfilling orders placed by Dick's and were able to fulfill all orders placed. There are a few more depositions to take, but I rather not outline the entire strategy my lawyer and I talked about so far.
 
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SunnyD

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Great update!

Now, my question - doesn't the mere fact of them referencing point number 3 basically screw them over? (I believe this was discussed ad nauseum several pages ago).
 

HumblePie

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That seems like a pretty weak response on their part.

It is. They are basically saying they over estimated the demand and didn't want to take that much through losses from the extended sale. That is something considered high illegal in all consumer protection laws. The only thing that would "save" them legally is if Troy did explicitly state that they were unable to fulfill orders to them forever. If they could no longer ever get access to that product, then that means my beef would have to be with Troy. But that is not the case. Troy stated publicly, which I referenced previously in this thread, that they were able to and were fulfilling all orders placed. That they were blind sided by Dick's decision to cancel orders currently being shipped to them for fulfillment.
 

HumblePie

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:thumbsup:

Great update!

Now, my question - doesn't the mere fact of them referencing point number 3 basically screw them over? (I believe this was discussed ad nauseum several pages ago).

It doesn't screw them over per say to mention that, unless they are trying to use that as the sole legal justification for their actions. If they use that as their defense it won't stand up in court at all though.
 

HumblePie

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subscribed, interested to see how this turns out for you.

Thanks. Just got off the phone with Troy's legal reps to let them know after next week my legal counsel will be scheduling a deposition with them. My counsel has taken to litigating this on contingency as long as I pay for the filing fees. Which amount to a few hundred bucks right now. He did mention that up until the actual court date that Dick's will have every opportunity to mediate.
 
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