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Isaiah

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.

Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.

I am unsure where you get your numbers from... yes CNN and others only reported 100,000(at first they said 20,000 and then changed the number). However I'm getting my count from people that were on the ground... the park ranger I talked with even said there was more then 200,000 people there.

I love it when people make very untruthful statements like "the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest". Umm, even the major news outlets disagree with that!

?Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House on Saturday, shouting "Peace now" in the largest anti-war protest in the nation's capital since the U.S. invasion.?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/24/antiwar.ap/index.html

Umm - the protests a year ago March were 125K+ This one didn't hit that number. The pictures don't lie and they've been analyzed. No where near what you anti-whatever people are claiming.

So, can you explain why the major news outlets are calling this the largest anti-war protest since the U.S. invasion of Iraq? Have you looked at any of the pictures of the protest? Maybe if you did you would change your mind... I was there I know what it was like.

Because you can't read. They stated that it was the biggest in the nation's Capital. The rally a year ago March was organized for NewYork.

BTW, I've seen many pictures from the anti-whatever rally- not just yours. They paint a broad picture of what transpired that day. Plus I don't need you to tell me what these things are like - i've been there and know the kinds of people they draw. Many different types to be sure, so don't try to play the game of claiming they are all just your everyday person fed up with the War.

I suppose you got some good "literature" while there - no? :laugh: I was stocked with enough by the time I left one to keep my fireplace stocked with good starter paper for an entire winter

Even not in the Capital, I am unable to find a protest that was bigger then this one... can you provide a link?

I agree there were many different types of people, however many of them were just your "everyday person fed up with the war".

Literature, yes sure there was lots of that, however I'm wasn't really interested in lugging heaps of it around with me, only to let it sit in a pile by my desk. If I want to find out about things I can easily search on Google, I do not need to read their pamphlets.

cBS link good enough for you?

Sure, there were some everyday normal people there, never said there weren't, but to suggest that was the typical attendee - you'd have to be willingly ignorant or just flat out dishonest.

It says "...organizers for last year's event estimated the crowd at more than 250,000". However organizer for this protest have this to say "We had hoped for 100,000 people, and more than 300,000 joined the protest". Seems like more to me?
 

slyedog

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isaiah, what was the true count? first you said 350.000, then 200,000. maybe you should study your math lessons more before you try and change the world. i will beleive the liberal media that put it at 100.000
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.

Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.

I am unsure where you get your numbers from... yes CNN and others only reported 100,000(at first they said 20,000 and then changed the number). However I'm getting my count from people that were on the ground... the park ranger I talked with even said there was more then 200,000 people there.

I love it when people make very untruthful statements like "the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest". Umm, even the major news outlets disagree with that!

?Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House on Saturday, shouting "Peace now" in the largest anti-war protest in the nation's capital since the U.S. invasion.?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/24/antiwar.ap/index.html

Umm - the protests a year ago March were 125K+ This one didn't hit that number. The pictures don't lie and they've been analyzed. No where near what you anti-whatever people are claiming.

So, can you explain why the major news outlets are calling this the largest anti-war protest since the U.S. invasion of Iraq? Have you looked at any of the pictures of the protest? Maybe if you did you would change your mind... I was there I know what it was like.

Because you can't read. They stated that it was the biggest in the nation's Capital. The rally a year ago March was organized for NewYork.

BTW, I've seen many pictures from the anti-whatever rally- not just yours. They paint a broad picture of what transpired that day. Plus I don't need you to tell me what these things are like - i've been there and know the kinds of people they draw. Many different types to be sure, so don't try to play the game of claiming they are all just your everyday person fed up with the War.

I suppose you got some good "literature" while there - no? :laugh: I was stocked with enough by the time I left one to keep my fireplace stocked with good starter paper for an entire winter

Even not in the Capital, I am unable to find a protest that was bigger then this one... can you provide a link?

I agree there were many different types of people, however many of them were just your "everyday person fed up with the war".

Literature, yes sure there was lots of that, however I'm wasn't really interested in lugging heaps of it around with me, only to let it sit in a pile by my desk. If I want to find out about things I can easily search on Google, I do not need to read their pamphlets.

cBS link good enough for you?

Sure, there were some everyday normal people there, never said there weren't, but to suggest that was the typical attendee - you'd have to be willingly ignorant or just flat out dishonest.

It says "...organizers for last year's event estimated the crowd at more than 250,000". However organizer for this protest have this to say "We had hoped for 100,000 people, and more than 300,000 joined the protest". Seems like more to me?

Yes, but you still seem to have trouble with reading.
"A New York protest a year ago drew more than 125,000 by official estimates. Although that's similar to organizers' estimate Saturday, organizers for last year's event estimated the crowd at more than 250,000. "
official estimates or organizers estimates. Hmm...

Anyway, my point still stands - this long hyped rally looks to have been smaller than past protests. So much for the claim of momentum - no?
 

Isaiah

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Originally posted by: slyedog
isaiah, what was the true count? first you said 350.000, then 200,000. maybe you should study your math lessons more before you try and change the world. i will beleive the liberal media that put it at 100.000

Can you show me where I change the number from 350,000 to 200,000? I said the park ranger said there was more then 200,000... that is how many he thought there was... clearly I think there was more then that.
 

Isaiah

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The point of this post was not to get into an argument over 200,000 vs 350,000 people, but to find out if anyone on Anandtech went to the protest.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Isaiah
The point of this post was not to get into an argument over 200,000 vs 350,000 people, but to find out if anyone on Anandtech went to the protest.

The point is that it wasn't even close to either of those numbers.
 

Pabster

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Seems the OP is in a minority. I'm not surprised.

And quit with the exaggerated attendance claims of 200,000+. Even the most liberal of sources won't budge past 100,000. And I believe that is being generous.

Then again you probably believe Farrakhan's MMM actually drew 1 million as well...
 

Isaiah

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
The point of this post was not to get into an argument over 200,000 vs 350,000 people, but to find out if anyone on Anandtech went to the protest.

The point is that it wasn't even close to either of those numbers.

Who numbers do you use?

...organizers of the anti-war demonstration said 300,000 people had assembled -- exceeding an anticipated 100,000. Washington police declined to comment on the size of the rally.

 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Seems the OP is in a minority. I'm not surprised.

Hmmm...considering that the number just jumped to 60% of those in the US that think that we shouldn't have went to war to begin with places the OP in the majority in this country. One that is becoming less and less silent......and growing!
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

You can whine about credentials all you want but it's quite clear from that almost half full elipse photo that there wasn't many more than 100K if that. You could spend a few hours counting pixels if you wish like one guy did but you won't come up with anywhere close to "hundreds of thousands" like the anti-whatever protesters like to claim.

Where did "I" claim anything? You made the claims. I haven't even challenged them. I asked for proof and you threw back at me something that I never did. Need an egg?

You made the claim. Proove it!
 

Isaiah

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Pabster
Seems the OP is in a minority. I'm not surprised.

Hmmm...considering that the number just jumped to 60% of those in the US that think that we shouldn't have went to war to begin with places the OP in the majority in this country. One that is becoming less and less silent......and growing!

Don't forget... the silent majority supports the war
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Pabster

ROFLMAO. You expect us to believe the propaganda flowing from the organizers?

NEWS FLASH: They always lie! Who would want to admit less than stellar attendance?


And your proof is? Links? Official counts? Any of you bashing his claims have anything else? You were there?
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
The point of this post was not to get into an argument over 200,000 vs 350,000 people, but to find out if anyone on Anandtech went to the protest.

The point is that it wasn't even close to either of those numbers.

Who numbers do you use?

...organizers of the anti-war demonstration said 300,000 people had assembled -- exceeding an anticipated 100,000. Washington police declined to comment on the size of the rally.

HAHA - yeah, ofcourse the organizers are going to make claims like that. Too bad for your types, al-reuters leads with the 100K number which even the most liberal of MSM won't go over too much.

Did you hear I had a rally too? It had 430,000. I was overwhelmed as the organizer. Do you believe me - the organizer? :roll:
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Hmmm...considering that the number just jumped to 60% of those in the US that think that we shouldn't have went to war to begin with places the OP in the majority in this country. One that is becoming less and less silent......and growing!

Fortunately most of those people are capable of disagreeing with their peers and leaving it at that rather than dressing up like high school hippies, flashing the peace sign, and blasting propaganda (no doubt with Joplin music in the background.)

This recent "antiwar" protest turned in mostly to an anti-Israel protest against religion. Combine those quacks with those too high to know what they stood for and that doesn't leave a whole lot of 'anti war' supporters, does it?
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.

Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.

Lmao. The 300 "pro-war" marchers? That's pitiful.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Engineer
And your proof is? Links? Official counts? Any of you bashing his claims have anything else? You were there?

And your proof is?

The police estimate around 100,000. I'll take their word before yours, or the organizers.

The Yahoo! article citing my statement above is Right here.

Now do you want to face reality, or keep dreaming?
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

You can whine about credentials all you want but it's quite clear from that almost half full elipse photo that there wasn't many more than 100K if that. You could spend a few hours counting pixels if you wish like one guy did but you won't come up with anywhere close to "hundreds of thousands" like the anti-whatever protesters like to claim.

Where did "I" claim anything? You made the claims. I haven't even challenged them. I asked for proof and you threw back at me something that I never did. Need an egg?

You made the claim. Proove it!

I didn't say you made the claim.

Common sense provides enough proof. Take a look at the arial photos -they don't come close to 200K - nowhere near it. I don't have to "prove" anything anyway - the OP is the one who is using numbers that even the MSM won't use.:laugh:
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.

Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.

Lmao. The 300 "pro-war" marchers? That's pitiful.

Doesn't change how pitiful this supposed growing anti-war movement's turnout was. They aren't gaining -they are losing - and it wasn't even just an anti-war rally. They had to bring in the anti-globalists, the Pro-palestinian terrorist groups, and you name who else. It was quite hilarious to watch on c-span and that steaming link that was posted in a different thread.
 

Isaiah

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

You can whine about credentials all you want but it's quite clear from that almost half full elipse photo that there wasn't many more than 100K if that. You could spend a few hours counting pixels if you wish like one guy did but you won't come up with anywhere close to "hundreds of thousands" like the anti-whatever protesters like to claim.

Where did "I" claim anything? You made the claims. I haven't even challenged them. I asked for proof and you threw back at me something that I never did. Need an egg?

You made the claim. Proove it!

I didn't say you made the claim.

Common sense provides enough proof. Take a look at the arial photos -they don't come close to 200K - nowhere near it. I don't have to "prove" anything anyway - the OP is the one who is using numbers that even the MSM won't use.:laugh:

Who?s numbers do we believe then? During the march to the Whitehouse, the ?liberal? CNN said there were 20,000, and now they have changed it to 100,000.
 

Isaiah

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Engineer
And your proof is? Links? Official counts? Any of you bashing his claims have anything else? You were there?

And your proof is?

The police estimate around 100,000. I'll take their word before yours, or the organizers.

The Yahoo! article citing my statement above is Right here.

Now do you want to face reality, or keep dreaming?

Sure you will... and I won't
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Engineer
And your proof is? Links? Official counts? Any of you bashing his claims have anything else? You were there?

And your proof is?

The police estimate around 100,000. I'll take their word before yours, or the organizers.

The Yahoo! article citing my statement above is Right here.

Now do you want to face reality, or keep dreaming?

From your link:

Military families and others defending the war in Iraq took their turn Sunday to demonstrate on the National Mall, if in much smaller numbers, and counter the massive protest against the war a day earlier.

Peace. Out.
 

Pabster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Isaiah
Sure you will... and I won't

Of course not. You'll believe your inflated numbers and give high-fives to the other members of the circle. Hopefully the Kool-Aid doesn't run out.

You can choose to face reality or dream.

 

Pabster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
From your link:

Military families and others defending the war in Iraq took their turn Sunday to demonstrate on the National Mall, if in much smaller numbers, and counter the massive protest against the war a day earlier.

Peace. Out.

And that has what to do with the fact that 100,000 (or less) people were at this "anti-war" protest, not 200,000+ as some would have us believe?
 
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