Just that a lot more showed up for the anti-war protest then the rally to support the war.
What else matters?
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
From your link:
Military families and others defending the war in Iraq took their turn Sunday to demonstrate on the National Mall, if in much smaller numbers, and counter the massive protest against the war a day earlier.
Peace. Out.
And that has what to do with the fact that 100,000 (or less) people were at this "anti-war" protest, not 200,000+ as some would have us believe?
Just that a lot more showed up for the anti-war protest then the rally to support the war.
What else matters?
Originally posted by: Deudalus
Just that a lot more showed up for the anti-war protest then the rally to support the war.
What else matters?
Isn't that only natural though?
I mean, I'm not out protesting for my rights to use the internet because I already have the right to use the internet. Actually, I'm using it right now
I've never seen a "right to bear arms" rally because we already have the right to bear arms. I've seen afew anti-gun rallies though.....
See what I'm saying?
Originally posted by: Deudalus
Just that a lot more showed up for the anti-war protest then the rally to support the war.
What else matters?
Isn't that only natural though?
I mean, I'm not out protesting for my rights to use the internet because I already have the right to use the internet. Actually, I'm using it right now
I've never seen a "right to bear arms" rally because we already have the right to bear arms. I've seen afew anti-gun rallies though.....
See what I'm saying?
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.
Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.
Lmao. The 300 "pro-war" marchers? That's pitiful.
Doesn't change how pitiful this supposed growing anti-war movement's turnout was. They aren't gaining -they are losing - and it wasn't even just an anti-war rally. They had to bring in the anti-globalists, the Pro-palestinian terrorist groups, and you name who else. It was quite hilarious to watch on c-span and that steaming link that was posted in a different thread.
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Did anyone on Anandtech go to the antiwar protest in DC on the 24th?
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I have uploaded some of our pictures here: http://www.thederosefamily.com/antiwar/
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.
Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.
Lmao. The 300 "pro-war" marchers? That's pitiful.
Doesn't change how pitiful this supposed growing anti-war movement's turnout was. They aren't gaining -they are losing - and it wasn't even just an anti-war rally. They had to bring in the anti-globalists, the Pro-palestinian terrorist groups, and you name who else. It was quite hilarious to watch on c-span and that steaming link that was posted in a different thread.
I just need to look at the polls to see growth. No need for a rally to do that.
Still, 300 people is uber-pitiful compared to 100,000 or whatever.
Think about it this way: if we were going to judge support for the war based on protests (as you think it should be), then 99.7% of people are for it, and 0.3% are against. I hope that quantifies the pitifulness of the pro-war rally for you.
Ah, the right-wing noise and duh-version machine is in full force. Let's see what this Yahoo article says:Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Engineer
And your proof is? Links? Official counts? Any of you bashing his claims have anything else? You were there?
And your proof is?
The police estimate around 100,000. I'll take their word before yours, or the organizers.
The Yahoo! article citing my statement above is Right here.
Now do you want to face reality, or keep dreaming?
That's 100,000 at the stage near the Wash. Monument. That doesn't include the hundreds of thousands beyond that area that were marching up and down Pennsylvania Ave.To the west, near the Washington Monument, workers were taking down the stage used for Saturday's marathon anti-war protest that attracted 100,000 people according to police estimates.
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Did anyone on Anandtech go to the antiwar protest in DC on the 24th?
I went with some friends from Ann Arbor, Michigan. We took a bus to DC on the 23th, and stayed for the huge march on the 24th. It was a great experience, to see so many mainstream Americans out showing there support for the troops, and protesting the war in Iraq.
A majority of these people are not wacko leftwing hippies, as many pro-war people would like to make them out to be. These people could easily be your brother, sister, coworker, boss, mother, father, grandmother, grandfather or friend. They are all people that are tired of wasting billions of dollars, and thousands of American lives on a seemingly hopeless war in a land far away that was no threat to them.
It is time for us to stop complaining about this war and take action. People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse. However, we need to keep this up until the president starts to show some real leadership, and start to answer our questions.
I have uploaded some of our pictures here: http://www.thederosefamily.com/antiwar/
We also look some videos that I hope to upload soon (need to get a firewire cable).
-Isaiah
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Did anyone on Anandtech go to the antiwar protest in DC on the 24th?
I went with some friends from Ann Arbor, Michigan. We took a bus to DC on the 23th, and stayed for the huge march on the 24th. It was a great experience, to see so many mainstream Americans out showing there support for the troops, and protesting the war in Iraq.
A majority of these people are not wacko leftwing hippies, as many pro-war people would like to make them out to be. These people could easily be your brother, sister, coworker, boss, mother, father, grandmother, grandfather or friend. They are all people that are tired of wasting billions of dollars, and thousands of American lives on a seemingly hopeless war in a land far away that was no threat to them.
It is time for us to stop complaining about this war and take action. People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse. However, we need to keep this up until the president starts to show some real leadership, and start to answer our questions.
I have uploaded some of our pictures here: http://www.thederosefamily.com/antiwar/
We also look some videos that I hope to upload soon (need to get a firewire cable).
-Isaiah
Helping another liberal rabble rouser crawl to wealth and power. We're so proud!
Originally posted by: conjur
Ah, the right-wing noise and duh-version machine is in full force. Let's see what this Yahoo article says:That's 100,000 at the stage near the Wash. Monument. That doesn't include the hundreds of thousands beyond that area that were marching up and down Pennsylvania Ave.To the west, near the Washington Monument, workers were taking down the stage used for Saturday's marathon anti-war protest that attracted 100,000 people according to police estimates.
That logic does not reallyu apply to all issues. Explain anti abortion and pro-choice rally numbers then. The more important they are, the more people come out on both sides to show their support. Just something to think about.
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Did anyone on Anandtech go to the antiwar protest in DC on the 24th?
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I have uploaded some of our pictures here: http://www.thederosefamily.com/antiwar/
Those are some nice pics, too bad they aren't any larger.
Yes, it does. Here's some backupOriginally posted by: Pabster
Wrong again.Originally posted by: conjur
Ah, the right-wing noise and duh-version machine is in full force. Let's see what this Yahoo article says:That's 100,000 at the stage near the Wash. Monument. That doesn't include the hundreds of thousands beyond that area that were marching up and down Pennsylvania Ave.To the west, near the Washington Monument, workers were taking down the stage used for Saturday's marathon anti-war protest that attracted 100,000 people according to police estimates.
It says workers were tearing down the stage. And that police give a 100,000 estimate. It does not say nor infer that there were 100,000 at the stage.
You can't spin this one.
Sheehan was among the speakers at Saturday's rally near the Washington Monument on the western part of the mall, an event that attracted an estimated 100,000 people. (Full story)
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it does. Here's some backup
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/25/war.rally.ap/index.htmlSheehan was among the speakers at Saturday's rally near the Washington Monument on the western part of the mall, an event that attracted an estimated 100,000 people. (Full story)
classic....the pink dress is flattering on him...Originally posted by: Isaiah
I fixed it up, so now they get bigger
I like this picture: IMG_5113.jpg:laugh:
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Isaiah
People will start to listen when 350,000(the real number... you can't listen to what the media reports, or in this case doesn't report) thousand people march on the Whitehouse.
Let us know when you reach that number because Saturday's little anti-whatever protest didn't come close to 350K. 100K - maybe, but not even close to what some of you are trying to claim.
Pretty pituful that the anti-war movement can't even get better numbers than a year ago with this anti-whatever protest. I thought there was a "surge" or "increase" in the movement. Doesn't seem like it from the results of the anti-whatever protest.
Lmao. The 300 "pro-war" marchers? That's pitiful.
Doesn't change how pitiful this supposed growing anti-war movement's turnout was. They aren't gaining -they are losing - and it wasn't even just an anti-war rally. They had to bring in the anti-globalists, the Pro-palestinian terrorist groups, and you name who else. It was quite hilarious to watch on c-span and that steaming link that was posted in a different thread.
I just need to look at the polls to see growth. No need for a rally to do that.
Still, 300 people is uber-pitiful compared to 100,000 or whatever.
Think about it this way: if we were going to judge support for the war based on protests (as you think it should be), then 99.7% of people are for it, and 0.3% are against. I hope that quantifies the pitifulness of the pro-war rally for you.
You can try to compare them if you wish and to lessen the hurt from the pitiful showing, but it doesn't change the facts. There is no growth - it's less than before. Pretty damn pitiful for being such a hyped event for months.
But anyway, it's fun to see the anti-whatever protesters come out into the sunlight every once in a while - some of them could use a bit more sunlight.:laugh:
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Looks like some of the Youth of America is getting more into their role in supporting the Government.
Regardles of mud-puppet's take on the politics.
I totally disagree; there were lots of college students, high school students, and even little kids. What makes you think that that young Americans are into ?their role in supporting the government?? I think we (young Americans) support our country, but not the current government.
We concur on the issue - read what I said, the people are the government, now, how do you get it back ?
Originally posted by: Kalbi
But people with your view are in the minority
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Kalbi
But people with your view are in the minority
The American Voter is in the MINORITY ?
Who's the Majority - the Diebold Machines ?
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Umm - the protests a year ago March were 125K+ This one didn't hit that number. The pictures don't lie and they've been analyzed. No where near what you anti-whatever people are claiming.
Link? By who? Credentials?
Is "Everyone" in the photo? eh?
Yes, the photo of the almost half full elipse.
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
The cops legally had to cap the count for 100k....DC has a max amount of protesters like a a fire code...
100k is the number you hear over and over becasue to say more would lead to trouble for the cops official count.
The 300k I heard seems more like it...espically considering it went on for days.
bravo to the non-violence aspect...the anarchists usually get up in arms about something, good to see they didnt torch bush's empty house... -today
(Though flooding the WH somehow would have been a riot as people were whispering about doing.)