Did the forums get a font change?

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Feb 6, 2007
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OK, comments to the rescue:

1. Open a new tab and type in "chrome:flags" (without quotes) in the search bar
2. Do a Find (CTRL+F) for "DirectWrite" (Disable DirectWrite Windows) & Enable it
3. Close all of your Chrome browser (restart Chrome)

My forum fonts are back to normal now :thumbsup:

That helps. Wonder why mine didn't start doing that until today...
 

ShadowOfMyself

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Jun 22, 2006
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OK, comments to the rescue:

1. Open a new tab and type in "chrome:flags" (without quotes) in the search bar
2. Do a Find (CTRL+F) for "DirectWrite" (Disable DirectWrite Windows) & Enable it
3. Close all of your Chrome browser (restart Chrome)

My forum fonts are back to normal now :thumbsup:

OMG THANK YOUUUU
Ive been going crazy with this font update lately, how did anyone think that looked good?
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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odd thing is I only really noticed a change on these forums, but it was bad.
 

jpiniero

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Oct 1, 2010
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No it doesn't. Firefox uses directwrite and looks fine.

I am still running FF 17 (so I haven't tried anything more recent than that) but every time I tested it with an updated version the fonts still looked wrong. I even tried using the anti-aliasing tuner to see if I could correct it and couldn't get it right.

Pref set is gfx.direct2d.disabled to true.
 

Leros

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Jul 11, 2004
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That's what it looks like in Linux. When I use Chrome on a Windows machine, the fonts look old and archaic to me. It's actually distracting enough that I can't quickly scan a webpage. Probably just what I'm used to.
 

Pulsar

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Mar 3, 2003
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THANK you. I had to do this because work forced the update on chrome. As someone else said, the Links bolded and sitting ON the link underline made it horrible to read.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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Thanks Kaido

THANK you. I had to do this because work forced the update on chrome. As someone else said, the Links bolded and sitting ON the link underline made it horrible to read.

I didn't mind the font change that much but the link problem was driving me crazy
 

JimmiG

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Feb 24, 2005
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OK, comments to the rescue:

1. Open a new tab and type in "chrome:flags" (without quotes) in the search bar
2. Do a Find (CTRL+F) for "DirectWrite" (Disable DirectWrite Windows) & Enable it
3. Close all of your Chrome browser (restart Chrome)

My forum fonts are back to normal now :thumbsup:

Worked for me. All kinds of pages were looking weird - some had squished fonts, others displayed in italics or bold etc. Everything looks normal now.
 

jacktesterson

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Sep 28, 2001
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Noticed this last night.

Hate the new change.

my HTPC scaling is all messed up now in Chrome. I will tackle this when I get home.
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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Oct 10, 2005
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I just updated Chrome. If I zoom in to 110%, everything looks identical to the way it did before the update. Why did they change the font size rendering at all? wtf?

Edit: Changing the web content font size setting does not actually change a damn thing on real webpages, just in the setting tab. Thanks, Google. Feedback sent.
 
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code65536

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Mar 7, 2006
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There's a thread over in the technical forums about this:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2397348

Basically, it comes down to Google using the default settings when it switched to hardware-accelerated text rendering, and the default settings optimize typeface fidelity over on-screen legibility.

Both IE and Firefox also use DirectWrite for accelerated text rendering (and have been for quite some time--no idea why it took Chrome so bloody long to finally get with the program), and IE uses the same default settings (and gets the same-looking text) while Firefox handles it far more sensibly.

(Also, DirectWrite requires DirectX 10. So people with XP or with older DX9 GPUs won't have hardware-accelerated text rendering.)

It's not hardware acceleration, it's hinting. (That link is very much worth a read, and the rest of this post assumes that you've read it or that you already understand what hinting is.)

Windows GDI font rendering is heavily hinted (it's why text on Windows looks so beautiful on low-DPI screens). However, the new hardware-accelerated APIs in Windows are, by default, unhinted (or very lightly hinted--I can't remember). This produces a more "faithful" text and text that scales more smoothly (e.g., if you have a text animation that grows the text from 10pt to 100pt, that animation will be smooth with unhinted rendering and will be jerky with hinted rendering).

When IE switched to hardware-accelerated text rendering, it got unhinted text. That's why some text looks a bit smaller than before, and why text don't look quite as sharp and clear as before.

When Firefox switched to hardware-accelerated text rendering, there was quite a bit of controversy, and a lot of people (including myself) argued that the benefits of hinting outweighed the downsides (most of the text that we see is static text for reading--we should thus optimize for on-screen readability, not for print fidelity or for text animations because, well, we know how people just loved the blink tag, right?). The compromise that was reached was that there was a list of fonts that would get the classic GDI-style full-on hinting treatment. This included the UI fonts like Segoe UI and all the common core web fonts like Arial and Verdana. This list of exemptions is configurable and can be found in about:config under "gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.force_gdi_classic_for_families". However, these exempted fonts still use hardware-accelerated rendering. It's just that Firefox is passing a parameter that says that it wants classic GDI-style hinting.

No amount of ClearType tuning would help when the problem is that text is being rendered with typeface fidelity given priority over on-screen legibility--this is not something that can be solved by tuning. And, yes, high-DPI will help since the effect of hinting diminishes as the the typeface occupies more pixels, but that's not really a solution, either.

No, the solution is to complain to Google and tell them that on-screen legibility is more important than print/typeface fidelity (seriously, how many people give a flying frack if a typeface doesn't look exactly what its designers intended, as long as it's crisp and legible?) and that you demand that they implement a Firefox-style solution where they use GPU-accelerated DirectWrite, but with nice pixel-friendly GDI-style hinting. That's the only solution that lets you use hardware acceleration while retaining good on-screen text (either that, or make that change yourself to the Chromium source code and compile your own version ).

Or... you could use the browser that gives users a choice in the matter: Firefox.

Basically, hinting is round-to-the-nearest-pixel-grid. So the exact results of hinting varies based on what typeface you're using and what size you're using it at. For Verdana at size 8, rounding to the the nearest pixel grid produces noticeably larger text, which is why unhinted text looks too small and why slightly increasing the font size makes the unhinted text look a bit more like the hinted text.
 
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T9D

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Holy crap mine just changed today and it looks like arse. What lamer pushed this out on chrome and ok'ed this?? Ugh.
 

T9D

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OK, comments to the rescue:

1. Open a new tab and type in "chrome:flags" (without quotes) in the search bar
2. Do a Find (CTRL+F) for "DirectWrite" (Disable DirectWrite Windows) & Enable it
3. Close all of your Chrome browser (restart Chrome)

My forum fonts are back to normal now :thumbsup:

Mine is already enabled when I checked but am having the problem. so now what?

Edit: You must have meant disable it. Don't know why you said enable it at the end, it's just confusing. I disabled it and it worked.
 
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phucheneh

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Jun 30, 2012
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Bump for solution.

I just started up Chrome and felt like I went cross-eyed. The DirectSomethingOrOther fix did the trick for me.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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Mine is already enabled when I checked but am having the problem. so now what?

Edit: You must have meant disable it. Don't know why you said enable it at the end, it's just confusing. I disabled it and it worked.

It looks like they released another Chrome update & changed the wording - mine now says "Enable DirectWrite Windows" - when I posted last week, the flag said "Disable DirectWrite Windows", which you had to "Enable" to turn on (Enabling that flag disabled DirectWrite), so it's opposite now - you have to disable the flag. Confusing haha.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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OK, comments to the rescue:

1. Open a new tab and type in "chrome:flags" (without quotes) in the search bar
2. Do a Find (CTRL+F) for "DirectWrite" (Disable DirectWrite Windows) & Enable it
3. Close all of your Chrome browser (restart Chrome)

My forum fonts are back to normal now :thumbsup:

My hero. :wub:
 

Carson Dyle

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Jul 2, 2012
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I stopped updating Chrome at version 31.0, which was one of the last releases before they began styling the scrollbar. (Remember when they even thought it was a good idea to remove the up and down scroll arrows?) Just disabling all of the Google update mechanisms was a major pain.
 

KeithTalent

Elite Member | Administrator | No Lifer
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Nov 30, 2005
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So the font change finally impacted me, but the fix above worked to get it back to normal; thanks for that.

I have a different issue though, none of the dropdown menus work here now. For example if I click on "Your Notifications" and then click on "Unread Private Messages" nothing happens. If I try to right-click on it and "Open in new tab" all it does is re-open whatever thread I am currently in, in that new tab. Very obnoxious!

KT
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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So the font change finally impacted me, but the fix above worked to get it back to normal; thanks for that.

I have a different issue though, none of the dropdown menus work here now. For example if I click on "Your Notifications" and then click on "Unread Private Messages" nothing happens. If I try to right-click on it and "Open in new tab" all it does is re-open whatever thread I am currently in, in that new tab. Very obnoxious!

KT

Bump in case anyone else waited to update. This fix worked for me.
 
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