Did the Muslims ever apologized for 9/11?

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Steelbom

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Read up. That Christian tent is a mighty big one. There is a cure for ignorance.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity


Bottom line is, you probably belong to the Christian sect that was created because Henry VIII was horny.

Hell, you might off yourself learning Christianism was derived from a Judaism sect.
I've no idea what you're on about although I suspect you mean to be rude and disrespectful, which is unnecessary. That aside, my religion is private and no one else's business, and I'm well aware of the origins of Christianity. And I stand by what I said originally, regardless of what "Wikipedia" says, Catholicism isn't Christianity, the two have vastly different doctrines.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Did the Muslims ever apologized for 9/11?
Yes. To me personally.

Now you know; you may now go about your day happy in that knowledge.


PS

If there are any people that have ancestry killed in the Holocaust I would like to apologize on behalf of Christians and what an ostensibly protestant nation did to you. My deepest apologies, a Holocaust is NOT what Jesus taught us to do
 

sdifox

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I've no idea what you're on about although I suspect you mean to be rude and disrespectful, which is unnecessary. That aside, my religion is private and no one else's business, and I'm well aware of the origins of Christianity. And I stand by what I said originally, regardless of what "Wikipedia" says, Catholicism isn't Christianity, the two have vastly different doctrines.

You will have to coin a different term then since Christianity is taken. How about Protestant? That is a widely accepted term.

Are you saying "Feed the Christians to the lions" were not about what we call Catholics today?

You do know ignorance just means not knowing, there is no judgement associated with that word right?

We are all ignorant of something or other.
 
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Steelbom

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Bigoted nonsense.
Mmm, no? I don't care to argue about this anyway, read what I wrote at the bottom of my post as well.
You will have to coin a different term then since Christianity is taken. How about Protestant? That is a widely accepted term.

Are you saying "Feed the Christians to the lions" were not about what we call Catholics today?

You do know ignorance just means not knowing, there is no judgement associated with that word right?

We are all ignorant of something or other.
I'm aware of the meaning of the word.

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Ultimately, as I said, I don't care to argue about this. I disagree that Catholicism falls under the category of Christianity, but even if it did, it's still technically incorrect to say: "Did Christianity ever apologise... etc.", as it's such a broad term. It was specifically Catholicism, according to the poster, although I thoroughly doubt the man was anything but a psychotic fanatic as even his actions go against everything I know of in Catholicism, and pretty much every other religion that exists for that matter.
 

WelshBloke

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It doesnt matter if you disagree that Catholicism is a form of Christianity, it IS a form of it.

Also theres lots of different sects of Islam as well but you seem happy lumping them all together.
 

Steelbom

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It doesnt matter if you disagree that Catholicism is a form of Christianity, it IS a form of it.

Also theres lots of different sects of Islam as well but you seem happy lumping them all together.
Perhaps, but anyway, it's irrelevant. As I said, Christianity is a broad term, and in the case of the poster, a more specific one was required.

I've not mentioned Islam?
 

WelshBloke

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Perhaps, but anyway, it's irrelevant. As I said, Christianity is a broad term, and in the case of the poster, a more specific one was required.

I've not mentioned Islam?


I was pointing out the similarity with

but even if it did, it's still technically incorrect to say: "Did Christianity ever apologise... etc.", as it's such a broad term.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Mmm, no? I don't care to argue about this anyway, read what I wrote at the bottom of my post as well.
You seem to be ignorant of the fact that there are many definitions of a "Christian".

Some protestant groups only define people belonging to their very defined sub-group as Christian; other protestant groups define even Mormons, Catholics and the eastern orthodox as Christian.

It's not an argument at all; there is no "disagreement" on the subject; you are simply without the necessary knowledge to properly understand the depth and complexity of the subject.

Now you have the knowledge and can continue on secure in the understanding that there is greater depth to the conversation than you formerly thought.

Or you're a religious troll, in which case You'll be banned soon so have a lovely life.
 

Craig234

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Lot of ignorance in this thread. Also see 'bad apples fallacy'. Osama bin Laden reflects 'Muslims', but a bad Christian is a bad apple not representing Christians.
 

Steelbom

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You seem to be ignorant of the fact that there are many definitions of a "Christian".

Some protestant groups only define people belonging to their very defined sub-group as Christian; other protestant groups define even Mormons, Catholics and the eastern orthodox as Christian.

It's not an argument at all; there is no "disagreement" on the subject; you are simply without the necessary knowledge to properly understand the depth and complexity of the subject.

Now you have the knowledge and can continue on secure in the understanding that there is greater depth to the conversation than you formerly thought.
I'm aware that there are many subdivisions to Christianity, but I have never thought and still do not agree that Catholicism is one of them. As I said however, it's irrelevant. My original statement still holds merit, as I've explained at the bottom of the post to which you've replied.
Or you're a religious troll, in which case You'll be banned soon so have a lovely life.
I can't stand religious threads, and I thoroughly regret coming into this one. I'd much rather discuss technology with people. That aside, I don't see how I'd be banned if haven't done anything wrong -- unless by religious troll you'd expect me to say things which would get me banned.
 

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I've no idea what you're on about although I suspect you mean to be rude and disrespectful, which is unnecessary. That aside, my religion is private and no one else's business, and I'm well aware of the origins of Christianity. And I stand by what I said originally, regardless of what "Wikipedia" says, Catholicism isn't Christianity, the two have vastly different doctrines.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/
 

Dr. Zaus

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I'm aware that there are many subdivisions to Christianity, but I have never thought and still do not agree that Catholicism is one of them. As I said however, it's irrelevant. My original statement still holds merit, as I've explained at the bottom of the post to which you've replied.

I can't stand religious threads, and I thoroughly regret coming into this one. I'd much rather discuss technology with people. That aside, I don't see how I'd be banned if haven't done anything wrong -- unless by religious troll you'd expect me to say things which would get me banned.

Got it. 2009 join date. You are a lurker; I only noticed the post-count and assumed you were an RBM religious troll. My rudeness was uncalled for and I apologize.

This is an extensive writeup on the subject. But the definition is not an opinion, the based on reified variety of socially constructed meanings to the word "Christian" discounting Catholics as Christians is only done by anti-Catholic bigots and people that ascribe to the religious practices of Catholicism without ascribing to the faith.

You may well have been told-differently by an anti-catholic bigot, as I was, but it was definitely to continue on anti-catholic bigotry within my Baptist church (I've heard much MUCH worse from the Pentecostals)

"Did Christianity ever apologize... etc.", as it's such a broad term.
It is no more silly than the OP's request for "Muslims" to apologize ( many of whom discount each-other as "true" Muslims.) That said, the catholic church did fail to act against the nazi regime, something that it should apologize for. Further so did the protestant Lutheran church, a group that made up a significant portion of the population of germans that enabled Hitler.

It makes much more sense to request an apology from, at least, the german Luteran church, the Catholic church and any other church represented in Germany at the time that didn't speak out than it does to ask "Muslims" to apologize.

Muslims is not only wide, but it allows for any two Muslims to apologize to meet the criteria. Which, again, they have, to me personally (all while discounting the status as Muslim of the people that acted in 9/11)
 

Steelbom

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Err, I'm not sure what your point with that is, but I'm in the process of trying to exit this thread so let's just agree to disagree.
Got it. 2009 join date. You are a lurker; I only noticed the post-count and assumed you were an RBM religious troll. My rudeness was uncalled for and I apologize.
Ah, don't worry about it. I only just noticed my join date too LOL.... been reading Anandtech's articles for a while though, quite a fan I am.
This is an extensive writeup on the subject. But the definition is not an opinion, the based on reified variety of socially constructed meanings to the word "Christian" discounting Catholics as Christians is only done by anti-Catholic bigots and people that ascribe to the religious practices of Catholicism without ascribing to the faith.

You may well have been told-differently by an anti-catholic bigot, as I was, but it was definitely to continue on anti-catholic bigotry within my Baptist church (I've heard much MUCH worse from the Pentecostals)

It is no more silly than the OP's request for "Muslims" to apologize ( many of whom discount each-other as "true" Muslims.) That said, the catholic church did fail to act against the nazi regime, something that it should apologize for. Further so did the protestant Lutheran church, a group that made up a significant portion of the population of germans that enabled Hitler.

It makes much more sense to request an apology from, at least, the german Luteran church, the Catholic church and any other church represented in Germany at the time that didn't speak out than it does to ask "Muslims" to apologize.

Muslims is not only wide, but it allows for any two Muslims to apologize to meet the criteria. Which, again, they have, to me personally (all while discounting the status as Muslim of the people that acted in 9/11)
You assume wrong about me, I'm no bigot and I'm not against any person regardless of race or religion. And I stay out of other peoples beliefs, I've no interest in them.

I've just started to become a little active in this forum and I make the mistake of walking into a religious thread, ah, when will I learn! Hahaha
 

Kroze

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Did the U.S. ever apologize for enslaving the blacks, imprison the Japanese, using 2 nuclear bombs, and chemical weapons against the Viet?
 

natto fire

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P&N OT circle jerk. Have fun fellers! Please go back to P&N and cluck like the hens you are ASAP, thanks!
 

Ktulu

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Why it is the same as his comment on the muslims. Fact is the Hitler was a devote Catholic (Christian) and so were 99%+ of the Nazi soldiers. This is a known FACT. Hitler and the Nazi said time and time again that they were doing the work of God, that they were the hand of Jesus.

Wrong, if Hitler really were a DEVOUT PRACTICING Catholic he would have never done what he did. FACT.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Wrong, if Hitler really were a DEVOUT PRACTICING Catholic he would have never done what he did. FACT.

I have to agree with Ktulu here, if Hitler was a Devout catholic he would have been molesting the little jewish boys, not killing them. FACT
 

HAL9000

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That's an absurd question to ask.

The answer is no, nor should they.

Al qaeda is about as related to islam as the LRA is related to christianity...

Religious extremists fundamentalists do not represent their religion.
 
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