Did you know... Windows 7 runs Automatic boot Defrag too

wsaenotsock

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Apparently windows 7 runs a boot defragmentation service automatically in the background while idle. In my case, it happened to run when my computer was anything but idle (but more on that later). This is separate from the scheduled task listed when you configure "Disk Defragmenter". I only discovered this after checking my system logs.


Designed to run after 10 mins of idle.


This isn't exactly new information and plenty of websites detail how to enable and disable it, see http://www.theeldergeek.com/automatic_boot_disk_optimization_[defrag].htm for details. It involves changing a registry key, and SSD users would want to disable it for obvious reasons.


However, HDD users still might want to disable it and change it to a scheduled event. Here's why: The windows idle-state doesn't seem to measure disk I/O when determining if the system was idle. For most scheduled tasks, who cares, but for defrag, that's kind of important. My reasoning for this, is that I had started downloading Portal 2 at about 20mb/s, came back a little bit later and heard the disk churning to hell. It was defragmenting while simultaneously writing data, and you can imagine what that sounds like. So either it ignored the I/O activity or deemed it insignificant. I've disabled this feature in the registry and moved it to a scheduled task.
 

bruceb

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Now you can see why I don't like the built in Windows Defrag utility. I prefer to install Diskeeper Pro on my computers. I think (not sure) that it overrides the built in defragger completely and I know Diskeeper Pro has boot time defrag as an item you can schedule. Defrag should only be done when nothing else is running, especially if it involves the Boot sector or the MFT tables.
 

Snapster

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Now you can see why I don't like the built in Windows Defrag utility. I prefer to install Diskeeper Pro on my computers. I think (not sure) that it overrides the built in defragger completely and I know Diskeeper Pro has boot time defrag as an item you can schedule. Defrag should only be done when nothing else is running, especially if it involves the Boot sector or the MFT tables.

Because it runs in the background? This is perfectly fine for most typical windows users. Those who don't want it can disable the feature in services or even set up their own schedule when it's more convenient to them.
 
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I agree with BruceB in his defrag preferences -- I use Diskeeper Pro Premier and always recommend it to friends and associates.

As far as I can tell, it disables the built-in (I don't see it available under System Tools folder, etc.) and Diskeeper defrags in the background while the computer is in use.

Diskeeper recently won the gold medal at a Top 10 Reviews side-by-side comparison of the best defrag programs because it did not impact system resources while it operated and it's the only defrag program that prevents fragmentation (see the review here:

[redacted]

The latest version also includes a free trial of "HyperFast" which is a product designed to optimize SSD drives (as you know, SSDs should not be defragmented, so Win 7 automatically disables defrag on SSDs -- although I have seen posts reporting instances where the SSD did not identify itslef as an SSD due to out-of-date firmware. So it's best to manually disable the defrag of SSDs or better yet, get a third party program that can optimize SSDs and disables the built-in).

Hi Bill from Diskeeper!

Thanks for dropping by. We in fact did not know anything about Diskeeper, so we appreciate the unsolicited "educational opportunity".

Should you be so generous as to provide us with additional education in the future, please feel free to first sit on your thumb and spin. It would be a more productive use of your time.

PS Tell Gary the boys at Microsoft said hi. We still miss him over here.

-Thanks
ViRGE
 
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