Didn't AMD claim that Fury X was the fastest card on the market?

[JumBie]

Correct me if I am wrong, didn't AMD claim during their conference that it was the fastest card on the market?

 

[chimaxi83]

I think they were saying the fastest one "is coming", which in that case would be their dual Fiji card. Fastest, when multi GPU works

 

[Udgnim]

fastest single GPU AMD card on the market

fastest card with HBM memory

 

[stag3]

yea was gonna say fastest "amd" card lol

 

[MentalIlness]

It may become the fastest after the drivers are polished. Of course, I doubt that will affect my purchasing decision. Either way, It don't matter to me. I play at 1080p still, and will continue to do so until February. Then it'll be 1440p

 

[Silverforce11]

It's fastest in their own tests, notice they leave out NV titles like Project Cars & Dying Light. If they include that, no, its not the fastest. It's slower by a lot.

 

[master_shake_]

its the fastest in the world in arkham city.

amd comes before nvidia.

so alphabetically it kicks ass.

 

[sandorski]

They did, as I recall. They also gave the impression that it was an awesome Overclocker.

In their defence, these 2 things might be true eventually or possibly already in their Labs with Drivers/Apps that are not quite ready to release yet, but the Optics are less than ideal even if that is the case.

 

[Stormflux]

It was actually in reference to the Dual Fiji card.
E3 Fury unveiling:
https://youtu.be/7MEgJLvoP2U?t=3818

 

[vissarix]

Correct me if I am wrong, didn't AMD claim during their conference that it was the fastest card on the market?

Falsely claiming the fastest gpu in the world is good, no apologies needed for Amd.

Falsely claiming 4gb vram instead of 3,5gb vram at full speed is a sentence to lifetime jail for jhh ...

the same people why cry about double standarts being used in these forums...lol kids these days..:biggrin:

 

[monstercameron]

Falsely claiming the fastest gpu in the world is good, no apologies needed for Amd.

Falsely claiming 4gb vram instead of 3,5gb vram at full speed is a sentence to lifetime jail for jhh ...

the same people why cry about double standarts being used in these forums...lol kids these days..:biggrin:

fastest in what metric?
highest sp gfops? check
most memory bandwidth? check
most fps in dx11 games? no

it is the fasest gpu, just not in current dx9-11 games.

 

[vissarix]

fastest in what metric?
highest sp gfops? check
most memory bandwidth? check
most fps in dx11 games? no

it is the fasest gpu, just not in current dx9-11 games.

these metrics..

They are basically dishonest liers...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...-new-fiji-graphics-card-beats-nvidias-980-ti/

''AMD's internal benchmarks show a FireStrike Ultra score of 3817 for the Nvidia 980 Ti. This is using their primary test bench system which is driven by an Intel Core i7-5960x. It's a system almost identical to my own, on which I tested a reference 980 Ti on FireStrike Ultra and received a score of 4007. This is just a reminder to take any internal benchmark results with a grain of salt.''

 

[Jaydip]

@vissarix That's why the vendor supplied benches mean crap.

 

[sam_816]

Falsely claiming the fastest gpu in the world is good, no apologies needed for Amd.





Falsely claiming 4gb vram instead of 3,5gb vram at full speed is a sentence to lifetime jail for jhh ...





the same people why cry about double standarts being used in these forums...lol kids these days..:biggrin:

Yea, kids these days.. But you are so mature..

Some immature kids make such claims after at 6months to 1 year of product launch but not mature people like you. It has been 5 days and after so many games n drivers released during this period, it is surely 'mature' to claim who is the 'winner'.

In amd's presentation there was loud n clear slide mentioning "world's fastest dual gpu" but mature people use their common sense(which is not common these days) to infer they are also claiming the same for single gpu card as well.

Claiming a Pepsi or coke is number one in a market is separate from claiming 350ml to be 400ml but only immature kids believe in such things.

While some immature kids believe that with fury in the market competition is back on and all the customers are going to benefit from this.. But some mature people simply know that market will be so much better if companies who make false claims(as mentioned by some news articles not by the company itself) should go bankrupt for the benefit of the market.... Kids these days!! Lol

 

[Enigmoid]

these metrics..

They are basically dishonest liers...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...-new-fiji-graphics-card-beats-nvidias-980-ti/

''AMD's internal benchmarks show a FireStrike Ultra score of 3817 for the Nvidia 980 Ti. This is using their primary test bench system which is driven by an Intel Core i7-5960x. It's a system almost identical to my own, on which I tested a reference 980 Ti on FireStrike Ultra and received a score of 4007. This is just a reminder to take any internal benchmark results with a grain of salt.''

Not really. Nvidia only guarantees the base clock on their cards; anything more is bonus. AMD could have simply limited 980Ti clocks down from out of box reference levels to slightly above the advertised base and boost clocks. Not really lying but certainly being very sneaky.

 

[railven]

Not really. Nvidia only guarantees the base clock on their cards; anything more is bonus. AMD could have simply limited 980Ti clocks down from out of box reference levels to slightly above the advertised base and boost clocks. Not really lying but certainly being very sneaky.

That is just plain dumb and ends with them wearing so much egg on their face.

Just take a standard kit card, run it, and if it wins, shut your mouth and improve your product. Don't hinder theirs to give you the win.

 

[monstercameron]

That is just plain dumb and ends with them wearing so much egg on their face.



Just take a standard kit card, run it, and if it wins, shut your mouth and improve your product. Don't hinder theirs to give you the win.

Don't hinder theirs to give yours a boost is the antithesis of amd's opponent's devrel.

 

[DDH]

I havent seen anyone try to replicate AMDs results in game v 980ti yet. I had a check of some of the reviews and most (All I think) had AF maxed out. You will notice that AMD choose not to have AF on in most of those game settings. AF seems to have had quite an impact on the performance of the FuryX in the games listed below in the reviewers benchmarks.

So the results AMD listed are not what I would call inaccurate, but it is a very selective approach, one that should have been blindly obvious would backfire.

When AF is maxed the 980ti seems to have a smaller decrease in performance that the Furyx, resulting in a small percentage lead.


Also about the 3dmark score it doesnt say whether the AMD results are graphics only or complete system. I think it is graphics only as other system components can lead to a differing result. 4007, could be the forbes journalists total system result, which is extremely close to Guru3d's result. And if you look at the Guru3d result the image shows they are referring to the total system benchmark

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_review,25.html



After all is said and done I am in two minds about the Fury X. I dont consider it a failed product like many others see to do. But it is quite expensive, and it honestly feels like the prelude to the main event, 14nm GPU's and HBM2. Perhaps the following months if voltage control is unlocked and drivers are improved we might see a bit more potential (A price drop would be nice too)

 

[Z15CAM]

At 4K yes but who makes honest 4K Displays today - Hold on.

What really gets me is that an old (Over Priced $1000) GTX 280 nVidia card will handily run a cheap Korean QNIX 27" Samsung IPS 1440p Display. (Used GTX 280 are $30 today)

For the money, wait out 4K selected cheap IPS Displays. I highly recommend the $300 Korean QNIX QX2510 EVO II Samsung IPS Matt 1440p display that easily runs between 60 to 120Hz.

Really for the same price of a single 980Ti at +1440p , I will blow you away and run 20C cooler - Not saying I won't eat less power.

SUCK the 980ti fastest 1080p with descent visual when ATi AMD is truly in the four front to explore and offer costumers beyond 1080p with descent visual.

Descent Visual along with Fast Interaction Displays is what's it's all about.

 

[Headfoot]

They are basically dishonest liers...

Quote me the exact location AMD says the Fury X specifically is the fastest card.

 

[Destiny]

Some people don't comprehend official announcements or statements in the conference. AMD never said the Fury X will be the fastest GPU. "... the fastest "Card" is going to be the Dual GPU Fury card.

I think some people got mixed up with rumors or "seeded" performance rumors as facts.