Difference between Mobile Barton 2500 and Barton 2500?

[jacktesterson]

Difference between Mobile Barton 2500 and Barton 2500 is?

 

[Lonyo]

Mobile runs at lower voltages at stock speed, sometimes has a lower FSB (266 vs 333) and it multiplier unlocked across the board (on some motherboards, like the ABit NF7) so it can be used from the lowest ~6x up to ~22x.
The regular Bartons are now multiplier locked and run at 1.65v as opposed to 1.45v for the mobile.

Many people suspect the mobile Bartons are regular chips (for example the 2800+) that can run at lower speeds (2500+ speeds) at a lower voltage.
They tend to overclock well (to 2400MHz or so on average), which can easily be done by running it at 12x200 (with PC3200 RAM of course).

 

[jacktesterson]

so whats the adavatages of each? Im not a overclocker

 

[Lonyo]

In which case, get a regular AMD Barton for the extra FSB , since the 2500+ mobile will offer no advantage.
The 2600+ you mention in your other thread shoudl suit fine.
The mobile Barton's are only really worth it for overclockers.

 

[NelsonMuntz]

Lonyo kind of spelled out the advantages of each.
Regular - 333 MHz FSB stock & can be purchased with a heatsink&fan (Retail)
or without (OEM) multiplier locked - harder to overclock
Mobile - 266 MHz FSB stock but lower voltage so that it is easier to overclock
multiplier unlocked only available as OEM.
If you are not planning on ever overclocking, then there is no reason to get a mobile.
Get a regular retail Barton and get the 3 year warranty with it.

 

[tomstevens26]

Going to go ahead and ask a related question in this thread...hope no one minds!

I've built several systems in the past using the Barton 2500+, and all but one have successfully OC'ed to 3200+ speeds. I could probably get it up to that if I tweaked the voltage, but...since it isn't my PC and the guy is happy with it running at stock I didn't bother.

I've got a couple of other friends who want to upgrade (will be gaming mostly), so naturally I've suggested the 2500+ since I've had such luck in the past. I know they'll want to squeeze as much speed out as possible, and pay the least amount of money. I've never messed with the mobile CPU, but is that the one we should go with? What about the heatsink and fan? I can't seem to find a retail version of this CPU...is there one? Would their be a big difference between the 266 and 333 FSB versions?

Any help is appreciated, and again, sorry if I should have opened a new thread. This just seemed so closely related I figured it wouldn't hurt.

Tom

 

[NelsonMuntz]

If they want to squeeze as much as they can out of the processor, then get a mobile one and a GOOD cooling solution. The mobile processors start at a lower voltage, and are completely unlocked, so if you raise the voltage the 0.2 Volts back up to 1.65, lower the stock multiplier and throw the FSB up to 200 MHz, sometimes you can get these puppies to overclock up to 3400+ and beyond.
Releasing mobile processors for the desktop is one of the amazing things that AMD will do once in a while that is really cool for enthusiasts. The last time they did it was with the AMD k6-II+ and k6-III+. Those were pretty sweet processors that offered some great performance for not a whole lot of money.
They did that at the end of the Socket 7 days and now it looks like they are doing it again at the end of the Socket A days.

 

[tomstevens26]

Thanks for the info! What would be a low cost, good cooling solution? Or is there such a thing?

Tom

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: tomstevens26
Thanks for the info! What would be a low cost, good cooling solution? Or is there such a thing?

Tom

ALX800 ..$20 shipped from newegg..

 

[batmanuel]

Also the mobile Bartons, being low voltage processors, are great for building a near-silent PC since you can get away with using a low-RMP fan with it. Put one of these together with a nForce 2 Ultra 400 motherboard with Dolby Digital out, a big hard drive, and a good TV tuner card and you've got yourself the beginnings of a great little Home Theater PC (especially with a nice quiet case like an Antec Overture).

 

[batmanuel]

EDIT: Removed accidental double post.

 

[Ionizer86]

Originally posted by: tomstevens26
Thanks for the info! What would be a low cost, good cooling solution? Or is there such a thing?

Tom

Or this monstrous heatsink (plus an appropriate 92mm fan): SLK-947U

 

[tomstevens26]

What about something like this? Would it work?

Kingwin HSF