Different races, different tippers.

[Buttzilla]

the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

 

[LiquidX]

Originally posted by: rufruf44

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Look asshole, most wait staff doesn't earn minimum wage like everyone else. They're paid a couple bucks an hour and earn the rest of their salary through tips. If you don't want to leave a tip then stay the fsck home you cheap, inconsiderate, bastard. :|

I hope one of the wait staff remembers you and puts spoiled food in with your meal to make you sick.

See I have to be the one making up your damn pay-check. And from your tone your one of the waiters that will surely spit in a customers food and drink if they leave to little or none at all. I come in a restauarant to eat not take on the burden of making up your pay-check. Sad thing is most here are talking about leaving a 15% tip and I bet will never give to the homeless are an charity but give to someone who is already getting paid for a job. If you were doing your job for free I would give you a tip but your not. Get a job you can making a living at you "inconsiderate, bastard". How much of that tip you get you then turn around and give the poor or the needy? 0% Most Likly.

Thats why for people like you, an automatic tip built in to the price of the food is necessary (ala Europe).

Yeah people like me. Who go out to get something to eat after a hard days work where I get no tip or a thank you but then I have to give a tip to someone who brings me plate of food which they most times dont even arrange. And it's not that I am cheap it's because I dont find it necessary. Everyone in a restaurant is being paid to do there job and it not like there working for free. Any restaurant that automatically adds in a tip are in for a surprise because I wont be paying for anything but what I orderd (ala American living in Brooklyn).

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
My wife and i drink water, not to save money, but because we like to drink it over anything else. plus we do not have to worry about the taset of the drink overpowering any food we are enjoying. And we always tip based on the level of service we get. We start out at 20% and go up or down from there.

Excellent service can equal as much as a 75% tip. Poor service can equal a 1 penny tip.

Keep our glasses full, deliver the food hot, check back from time to time, talk to us. flirt with my son, and you will be tipped in kind. Ignore me after bring the food, and your tip will start down hill very fast.

Some foods are complimented with a good beer, some foods go well with wine. But, 90% of the time, I drink water, then maybe a cup of coffee or two after dinner. Ulfwald has it right.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: Buttzilla
the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

Agreed. Unfortunatly not everyone here sees it that way. The "to tip or not to tip" thing seems taboo here on ATOT. It's a losing battle, you're never going to make them see differently ... nor will anyone be able to despite what they say. To them, waiters get paid and that should be enough ... if they don't like it, they should get another job.

 

[Buttzilla]

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: rufruf44

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Look asshole, most wait staff doesn't earn minimum wage like everyone else. They're paid a couple bucks an hour and earn the rest of their salary through tips. If you don't want to leave a tip then stay the fsck home you cheap, inconsiderate, bastard. :|

I hope one of the wait staff remembers you and puts spoiled food in with your meal to make you sick.

See I have to be the one making up your damn pay-check. And from your tone your one of the waiters that will surely spit in a customers food and drink if they leave to little or none at all. I come in a restauarant to eat not take on the burden of making up your pay-check. Sad thing is most here are talking about leaving a 15% tip and I bet will never give to the homeless are an charity but give to someone who is already getting paid for a job. If you were doing your job for free I would give you a tip but your not. Get a job you can making a living at you "inconsiderate, bastard". How much of that tip you get you then turn around and give the poor or the needy? 0% Most Likly.

Thats why for people like you, an automatic tip built in to the price of the food is necessary (ala Europe).

Yeah people like me. Who go out to get something to eat after a hard days work where I get no tip or a thank you but then I have to give a tip to someone who brings me plate of food which they most times dont even arrange. And it's not that I am cheap it's because I dont find it necessary. Everyone in a restaurant is being paid to do there job and it not like there working for free. Any restaurant that automatically adds in a tip are in for a surprise because I wont be paying for anything but what I orderd (ala American living in Brooklyn).

does your job require tips and thank you's?

edit: i realized that it would be appreciated but if you work in an office setting the only people that can give you tips/thanks-you's are your coworkers and boss.

 

[Buttzilla]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla
the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

Agreed. Unfortunatly not everyone here sees it that way. The "to tip or not to tip" thing seems taboo here on ATOT. It's a losing battle, you're never going to make them see differently ... nor will anyone be able to despite what they say. To them, waiters get paid and that should be enough ... if they don't like it, they should get another job.

point taken. whether they like it or not tipping is not going to go away so if they dont' like to tip then dont eat out. go to a chinese restaurant in chinatown if you don't want to tip.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: Buttzilla

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla
the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

Agreed. Unfortunatly not everyone here sees it that way. The "to tip or not to tip" thing seems taboo here on ATOT. It's a losing battle, you're never going to make them see differently ... nor will anyone be able to despite what they say. To them, waiters get paid and that should be enough ... if they don't like it, they should get another job.

point taken. whether they like it or not tipping is not going to go away so if they dont' like to tip then dont eat out. go to a chinese restaurant in chinatown if you don't want to tip.

I tip at pho places ... At least $1 or $2

 

[Babbles]

My brother waits tables at an above-average steak house and bitches constantly about how the "Canadians" tip.

 

[RagingBITCH]

You're a tool who stereotypes and generalizes b/c you're an idiot.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: rufruf44

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Look asshole, most wait staff doesn't earn minimum wage like everyone else. They're paid a couple bucks an hour and earn the rest of their salary through tips. If you don't want to leave a tip then stay the fsck home you cheap, inconsiderate, bastard. :|

I hope one of the wait staff remembers you and puts spoiled food in with your meal to make you sick.

See I have to be the one making up your damn pay-check. And from your tone your one of the waiters that will surely spit in a customers food and drink if they leave to little or none at all. I come in a restauarant to eat not take on the burden of making up your pay-check. Sad thing is most here are talking about leaving a 15% tip and I bet will never give to the homeless are an charity but give to someone who is already getting paid for a job. If you were doing your job for free I would give you a tip but your not. Get a job you can making a living at you "inconsiderate, bastard". How much of that tip you get you then turn around and give the poor or the needy? 0% Most Likly.

Thats why for people like you, an automatic tip built in to the price of the food is necessary (ala Europe).

Yeah people like me. Who go out to get something to eat after a hard days work where I get no tip or a thank you but then I have to give a tip to someone who brings me plate of food which they most times dont even arrange. And it's not that I am cheap it's because I dont find it necessary. Everyone in a restaurant is being paid to do there job and it not like there working for free. Any restaurant that automatically adds in a tip are in for a surprise because I wont be paying for anything but what I orderd (ala American living in Brooklyn).

Oh you'll be paying for it allright. You'll just be paying for a higher food price. And I'm sure you'll try find a way to complain about it later.

 

[Buttzilla]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla
the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

Agreed. Unfortunatly not everyone here sees it that way. The "to tip or not to tip" thing seems taboo here on ATOT. It's a losing battle, you're never going to make them see differently ... nor will anyone be able to despite what they say. To them, waiters get paid and that should be enough ... if they don't like it, they should get another job.

point taken. whether they like it or not tipping is not going to go away so if they dont' like to tip then dont eat out. go to a chinese restaurant in chinatown if you don't want to tip.

I tip at pho places ... At least $1 or $2

hehehe, i don't at the place i usually go to. man, the service is crap. you sit and they come right away asking what you want, they hover around the table, when they food comes out they don't even give everybody their bowls they just plop it all down and we have to hand them out, cash only when paying, and we also have to go to the counter and pay. hahaha, good cheap food.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Look asshole, most wait staff doesn't earn minimum wage like everyone else. They're paid a couple bucks an hour and earn the rest of their salary through tips. If you don't want to leave a tip then stay the fsck home you cheap, inconsiderate, bastard. :|

I hope one of the wait staff remembers you and puts spoiled food in with your meal to make you sick.

See I have to be the one making up your damn pay-check. And from your tone your one of the waiters that will surely spit in a customers food and drink if they leave to little or none at all. I come in a restauarant to eat not take on the burden of making up your pay-check. Sad thing is most here are talking about leaving a 15% tip and I bet will never give to the homeless are an charity but give to someone who is already getting paid for a job. If you were doing your job for free I would give you a tip but your not. Get a job you can making a living at you "inconsiderate, bastard". How much of that tip you get you then turn around and give the poor or the needy? 0% Most Likly.

Are you just playing around here or are you really that stupid? Let me explain it again and see if that helps... It's widely known that most wait staff is paid only a few dollars an hour by their employer BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPENSATED BY TIPS from the patrons. You and any other customer in a restaurant are expected to leave a gratuity/tip based on the level of service delivered. If you don't like that idea then don't eat out, period.

Anyway, you're not making *MY* paycheck. I work in a computer/network support position and I've never waited tables. And you're still an inconsiderate jerk... :disgust:

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Buttzilla
the incentive to work as a waiter is the tips, i'm sure everyone will agree with me on this whether you tip or not. also, tipping is a perk that isn't always guaranteed do to the quality of service that's provided, in a sense they are bonus's at the end of the shift. so for those who look down upon waiters who gripe about tips because it's their job and if they want to make real money go find a real one....can i ask you something? do you b!tch about not getting bonus's at your 'real job'? in a sense, that would be the same thing right? you work hard and you would like to recieve a bonus right?

Agreed. Unfortunatly not everyone here sees it that way. The "to tip or not to tip" thing seems taboo here on ATOT. It's a losing battle, you're never going to make them see differently ... nor will anyone be able to despite what they say. To them, waiters get paid and that should be enough ... if they don't like it, they should get another job.

point taken. whether they like it or not tipping is not going to go away so if they dont' like to tip then dont eat out. go to a chinese restaurant in chinatown if you don't want to tip.

I tip at pho places ... At least $1 or $2

There's a local Philippine restaurant I go to once in a while. I tip the same there as any other place.

I visited the Philippines last year - my first time there. We went out to eat and at the end of the meal I calculated 20% and was going to leave it and was told it was way too much. They told me it was standard practice to leave your change - a few pesos. I felt very uncomfortable leaving such low tips but I was told that's what's expected and to leave a 20% tip there would make us stand out (a target).

 

[Sheepathon]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
15% default, and you have to a really bad job to get me to 10%. But if you're even a little bit nice or I can tell you're paying attention, then it's an easy 20%

<---- Chinese
<---- Drinks water because it's healthier than soda

 

[Adica]

Listen..although we are all stereo- typing this crazily opressed society, it pisses me off that we can say that all of one race tips good or poor. And further more many Indian people work in the restaurant business and know how it is to survive on tips, thus tip others very generously. Also, while I am at it, let me add this- Business owners take advantage of their waitstaff and pay them poorly with no benefits and expect them to work their a$$ off, for the money someone else is tipping them. Restaurant owners have it made and I believe they need to respect their employees and pay them more...especially if you people are gonna complain about how much money waitstaff makes. They deserve it, and more!

 

[gopunk]

sounds about what i would expect... for the record, i tip well but always drink water... i just have no desire to drink anything else usually.

 

[LiquidX]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Look asshole, most wait staff doesn't earn minimum wage like everyone else. They're paid a couple bucks an hour and earn the rest of their salary through tips. If you don't want to leave a tip then stay the fsck home you cheap, inconsiderate, bastard. :|

I hope one of the wait staff remembers you and puts spoiled food in with your meal to make you sick.

See I have to be the one making up your damn pay-check. And from your tone your one of the waiters that will surely spit in a customers food and drink if they leave to little or none at all. I come in a restauarant to eat not take on the burden of making up your pay-check. Sad thing is most here are talking about leaving a 15% tip and I bet will never give to the homeless are an charity but give to someone who is already getting paid for a job. If you were doing your job for free I would give you a tip but your not. Get a job you can making a living at you "inconsiderate, bastard". How much of that tip you get you then turn around and give the poor or the needy? 0% Most Likly.

Are you just playing around here or are you really that stupid? Let me explain it again and see if that helps... It's widely known that most wait staff is paid only a few dollars an hour by their employer BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPENSATED BY TIPS from the patrons. You and any other customer in a restaurant are expected to leave a gratuity/tip based on the level of service delivered. If you don't like that idea then don't eat out, period.

Anyway, you're not making *MY* paycheck. I work in a computer/network support position and I've never waited tables. And you're still an inconsiderate jerk... :disgust:

Again, so I am suppose to make up there pay-check because they dont make enough? I go out to eat not to tip some waiter until he gets enough for rent and who will wait on me better because I am white and thinks I will tip better than blacks are Indians. Yeah I'am stupid I guess because I choose to give to more needy. And it sounds crazy but I took four years of hotel and restaurant management so I should sympathize more than some of you but I dont. Sorry.

 

[PCmaker]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster
I work as a part time waiter at a fairly nice Asian resturaunt. We have a piano player Sunday nights through Thursday nights. And we have a jazz band with singers friday and Saturday nights. The resturaunt is pretty upscale compared to most restuarunts in the area. Anyways, after a year of working there, I have come to these conclusions about people.

In general: You can tell what kinds of tippers they are gonna be by what they drink. If they ask for water immediately or hot tea (which is free), you're gonna get a cheap as$ tip. The way I see it, if you're gonna hold back when it comes to dining out, whats the point of going out to eat in the first place. Anyways....

Generally speaking:

White people: They act snobby when dining out and they usually try to act like a big shot. Overall, they tip the best.

Black people: They come in and order the cheapest most common entree, like Fried Rice. They are very cheap tippers and a lot of times, they order 2 or 3 entress between 5 people. Oh yea, they always drink water.

Indian people: These are the worst. Usually, when a black table comes in, all of us waiters/waitresses are like "SH!T" but when we get an Indian table, it's all downhill from there. They'll all drink water (no ice), and order a couple entrees for everyone to share. Then they'll call you over to the table for extra chili sauce, and they'll ask for this and that. And when it comes to the check, they tip the worst, in fact, they are the cheapest people I know of.

Asian people: They will usually drink water and they will share a few entress between a small village 90% of the time. The wont ever tip more than 15% and usually it's a lot less than that.

Done.

This posting is very immature and nonsense. Do not make general comment about a few % representing a race. I am mixed and my girlfriend is from India. When we go to chinese buffet, she is always the one reminding me that we should tip the waiter/waitress. We usually leave $6-10 no matter what. The bill usually comes to $11.75, and yes i drink water and she drinks tea. Soda is not part of our diet.

What you just wrote above should be edited.

Do all chinese people know Kung-Fu?
Do all black male have big d!ck?

After reading this post, i understand why you are not getting good tip.

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage

Originally posted by: vood0g

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Because they have to tip out the bus boys as well as the other food runners. They make min. wage + your tips. So think about it they have to tip out EVERY bus boy and food runner that is assigned to their set of tables. They're also waiting on you, bringing things that you want, they come at your beck and call basically.

so by that, my manager and supervisors should all tip me on top of my salary since i am at their beck and call...dont give me that crap. its their job to wait on tables, thats why they're called waiters.

pwned

Do you work at a restaurant? No? Then STFU. This applies to if you work at a restaurant.

You don't HAVE to tip them. But you do if you FEEL like they've given you good service. So stfu. If you don't tip out the bus boys etc, they can refuse to service your tables, and in turn give you a bad rap with your customers. Once you've worked at a restaurant, then say something. Don't bitch about it otherwise.

EDIT:

Oh wait you said you make SALARY as well. Once you make min. wage. then say something. These people are working per hour. The only reason why McDonalds and such doesn't have a tip jar or anything of the sort is because the company WILL not allow them to take tips.

Their job is also harder than it seems. They have to go through training, they have to be careful about all the stuff they carry and try to be efficient. It's a very faced paced environment (especially around lunch and dinner time) that it's difficult to give 100% to each and every table. That's what you're tipping for. The service. If they do a bad job, you just tip them less. Or if you don't feel that you need to tip them at all, don't.

So you agree with the poster that I quoted, that you shouldn't tip? And you don't in general tip the person that waits on you? Then does that mean you don't tip taxi drivers, hair stylists, full service car wash places, handwash car places at all?

Bitch, I used to work in a restaurant. My stepmother's mother (step grandmother??) owns a restaurant that I used to work at. I know what it's like to wait on tables. I know what its like to get tips. I know what its like to not get tips. But you know what? I don't bitch about not getting tips. Even if the repeat customers that i know are poor tippers, i still give them excellent service because the reputation of the restaurant is at stake.

I have nothing against tipping, but i do have something against snot-nosed brats being racially biased about the better tipping race, and giving poor/good service based upon that. You whiny little bitches advocate that tipping is part of the job and that it makes up part of the waiters' paycheck, well wake-up, fvcktards, getting stiffed is also part of the job.

Being a waiter is like gambling/investing, you may come out on top or you may not. It's an opportunity that college students take in hopes of getting a better paying job than working at a minimum wage paying job. The greater the return the greater the risks.

And yes, i do make a salary now, but i did work at various minimum wage jobs before also. so dont tell me to "stfu" when you obviously know sh1t about me. dumbfvck

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

Listen you tard. You know that $1.50 soda you just ordered? Well expect to pay $2.00 or $2.50 now for it. You know that $14.99 dish of Chicken Parmigiana you just ordered? Expect that to go up to $16.49 or more. Don't you guys realize that restaurants charge the prices that they do because they don't have to foot most of the wage for busboys, waiters, hostesses, etc?

Normally the law is the restaurant is allowed to pay a wage substantially lower than minimum wage (as in $2-3 an hour in NY, where the minimum wage is more than double that). The employees then have to report to the restaurant how much money in tips they receive, and the restaurant has to supplement them so that they make minimum wage after pay+tips.

Here's an example.

There's 3 tables that the waitress gets over a 2 hour period. The bill comes out to $45 for each table and the waitress is tipped 15% off those checks. Thats about $20 the waitress gets over 2 hours. $10/hour. Waitresses pay is $2.35 an hour. So that is $12 an hour. All is good.

Now take those 3 tables and make it so the tables don't tip. You now have the waitress with just $2.35. Say minimum wage is $6.75 an hour. That is $8.80 the restaurant is losing. Guess what, that is going to be passed onto the customer. So your meal just went up a bare minimum $3, not to mention when the waitress gets payed when only 1 or 2 tables come in for her over a 6 hour period. In that 6 hour period, the restaurant is now paying an extra $27 to the waitress.

See how quickly prices would rise in a restaurant? And you better believe that the restaurant is not going to eat the loss.

lets say the meal costs me $45. at 15% the tip comes out to $6.75. i highly doubt my meal is going to come out higher than $6.75 just because the restaurant decides to pay minimum wage. and if the restaurant has to pay a waiter for 6 hours of work where he only gets 1-2 tables in that period of time, then that is the restaurant's poor management.

 

[Amused]

I always drink water. At home, or at a restaurant. I do it because it's healthy and I prefer it, not because I'm cheap.

My baseline tip for acceptable, seamless service is 20%. Less if you suck, and more if you wow me.

Therefore your "water = cheap" theory is bullsh!t.

But if you let my water run dry or treat me like a second class sucker, I will be VERY cheap.

 

[Amused]

As for tipping in general and the debate over whether it should be abolished:

The Tipping system is a good thing. You are going to pay that money regardless. Whether it is in the form of a tip, or added into the bill through increased food prices, you are going to pay it. In fact, it will be MORE expensive to you were tipping abolished because employers would have to pay matching taxes on the payroll and would pass that cost onto you as well.

Tipping makes YOU the boss and makes the waitstaff answerable only to you. If you want an example of service without tipping, merely go to any fast food restaurant or retail store like Best Buy and compare the service there to the service at your favorite restaurant. The tipping system maintains a level of service that cannot exist with hourly workers.

Everything about the tipping system is positive. The only way it can be deemed negative is if someone does not think it through, or they are simply too fscking lazy to figure out the correct tip. (Both usually go hand in hand.)

 

[geecee]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster
When you say water....we think "Oh god, here's a cheap as$ who is going to give me a crappy tip." And we wont pay much attention to you for the rest of the night. No carbonated drinks, no iced tea, and no alcohol. So what do you drink? Juice, milk, and water?

Perhaps why you make no tip from those people? And as someone else pointed out here, perhaps your generalizations on race cause you to consciously or subconsciously treat them differently, which then in turn gets you a smaller tip? Maybe if you just wait on everyone the same instead of being judgmental, you'll receive the appropriate tips? Or to use racial tendencies to reverse the racial tipping arguments, Asians (Indians included) tend to eat family style and will share a few dishes between a sometimes disproportionately large number of people. Often, they also tend to eat as much rice as the main dishes, thus fewer main dishes necessary. Generally, these same ethnicities tend to consume less, if any alcohol, not for financial reasons, but because of habit or custom.

Oh btw, people order what they like to eat. Not necessarily the most or least expensive item on the menu and definitely don't choose their meal to stiff you out of a tip. Eating out, I generally start with just water and/or a coke or a beer depending on what I feel like. Where does that put me in your generalization scheme?

Having worked several summers in the restaurant of a family friend, I really appreciate how tough a waiter's job can be. And bad tippers can make the experience even worse. I generally tip 15% if the service is merely slightly subpar to adequate. If the waiter expended any effort at all, they get 20%. If they went out of their way they get 25-30%. You would really have to piss me off to earn 10%. And I would have to catch you doing something unhealthy to my food to get less than that or none. That said, too many people can't differentiate between food and service. The food is supplied by the chef. The service is supplied by the waiter. If the food tastes bad or is under- or over-cooked, it is NOT the waiter's fault. If the waiter takes it back and does what he is able to to make you happy, he should NOT be penalized for it.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: vood0g
Bitch, I used to work in a restaurant. My stepmother's mother (step grandmother??) owns a restaurant that I used to work at. I know what it's like to wait on tables. I know what its like to get tips. I know what its like to not get tips. But you know what? I don't bitch about not getting tips. Even if the repeat customers that i know are poor tippers, i still give them excellent service because the reputation of the restaurant is at stake.

I have nothing against tipping, but i do have something against snot-nosed brats being racially biased about the better tipping race, and giving poor/good service based upon that. You whiny little bitches advocate that tipping is part of the job and that it makes up part of the waiters' paycheck, well wake-up, fvcktards, getting stiffed is also part of the job.

Being a waiter is like gambling/investing, you may come out on top or you may not. It's an opportunity that college students take in hopes of getting a better paying job than working at a minimum wage paying job. The greater the return the greater the risks.

And yes, i do make a salary now, but i did work at various minimum wage jobs before also. so dont tell me to "stfu" when you obviously know sh1t about me. dumbfvck

My whole point of that post, was because you said 2 very contradictory things, you said,

so by that, my manager and supervisors should all tip me on top of my salary since i am at their beck and call...dont give me that crap. its their job to wait on tables, thats why they're called waiters.

With that one line, it says a lot of things. It says that you don't need to tip them, because it's their job. That's why I said that to the other poster. I'm not saying crap about what the OP said and how biased it is. I agree, that's messed up. Why else do you think I mentioned that you don't HAVE to tip them? Many people in this thread, think that they should not tip at all, EVER. That's what I'm saying. I'm not bitching about certain people not tipping, I'm bitching about giving GREAT service and not getting tipped, because the patron doesn't think that tipping is neccessary at all, due to it being, just their job. I was also explaining, what their tips go toward as well, not just them and their greedy little selves like the other poster I had originally quoted before you jumped in (with the quote above)

I have nothing against tipping, but i do have something against snot-nosed brats being racially biased about the better tipping race, and giving poor/good service based upon that.

Very contradictory to the previous quote. I admit then, I was wrong about you not working at a minimum wage job. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I'm not going to resort to immature name calling, just because someone said, STFU to me. Tips are the incenstive for people to become waiters, so in a way, yes, it is part of the job. But once again, good service should result in tips, bad service = no tip.

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[Arkitech]

I drink water 99% of the time, but I usually tip between 30-40%.

Guess I'm a rare one