Different races, different tippers.

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Then get a job as a waiter. If you want to be a cheap as$, order take out or eat at Taco Bell. And it's not an easy job. It's fast paced and you have a lot running through you head that you have to remember. Most people wouldnt last a day in a fast paced resturaunt.

I'm not saying it's an easy job. It's unskilled. No education required. Blah blah blah. Anyone can do it. Waiters have no business making an avg of $40,000+ a year.

awww do you want a tissue?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: thejackal1

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
My wife and i drink water, not to save money, but because we like to drink it over anything else. plus we do not have to worry about the taset of the drink overpowering any food we are enjoying. And we always tip based on the level of service we get. We start out at 20% and go up or down from there.

Excellent service can equal as much as a 75% tip. Poor service can equal a 1 penny tip.

Keep our glasses full, deliver the food hot, check back from time to time, talk to us. flirt with my son, and you will be tipped in kind. Ignore me after bring the food, and your tip will start down hill very fast.

WTF?

Psychology 101, TF. Good serving folk know which side their bread is buttered on. If you don't like people, don't take a service position, please.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I always tip 25% to 30% minimum unless it's horrible service of course. But I guess that's why I always get outstanding service where ever I go though and am greeted by my name and of course they already have my drink waiting for me on the table without ordering. If the service is really bad I tell the manager so he can fix it.

 

[welst10]

My 123 rule of tipping (very simple):

Decent to good service: 2 cents
bad service: 1 cent
exceptional service: 3 cents

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Idleuser
since when did tipping became a mandatory practice? you guys think you got it hard or think waiting isnt a easy job? a few of my family members works in the back of the restaurant making just barely above minimum wage. Just because you know how to read a little english and multitask you think you deserve to get 15% and up? man give me a break even at 10% of 100 when a family of 4-6 orders about 100 bucks you're still making 10 bucks an hour on top of that you get your hourly wage. and yes you do split a percentage to to busers and the bartender (assuming it has a bar) but then again you're still making over 60% on the majority of the tip. So before you start saying people are cheap and how you base someone on how well they tip you should get yourself examined my friend. Not everyone makes 3-4000+ a month to be paying waiters for a job they should do in the first place. Simply if you don't like what you're doing no one is forcing you to do it.

Btw, I like drinking tea because it's it doesnt make my throat all dry compare to soft drinks at a restaurant.

<---- Is chinese
<---- Tips over 15% and up
<---- Has a few family member that are waiting at the tables.

Now take that snotty attitude and shove it up your ass because people work harder for their money than just provide service

i have no clue what the hell your post means.

 

[Tiamat]

Im asian and I always ask for water. Usually if the server does their job, they get 18%. All my asian friends do this as well.

The people who on average tip the highest are or once-were servers.

 

[BustaBust]

Just out of curiousity, you bitch about your job, but who chose this job for you?

Deal with it and don't generalize, I am sure most people see it on your face and probably
leave you chewed gum or change as a tip.

Switch "professions"

 

[RightWinga]

Originally posted by: vood0g
i think managers should just pay the minimum wage for the wait staff so we none of will have to tip anymore. and that bull about "if waiters get minimum wage, then prices will go up" is total bullsh1t. i seriously doubt food prices are going up beyond what people should tip anyway. even if food prices do go beyond the average tip, i still think it will be worth it.

having a minimum wage and no tipping will most likely lead to better overall service.

In California restaurants HAVE to pay minimum wage ($7.25) on top of the tips they make. Such BS.

Sometimes I leave a quarter if I feel offended by the service I receive. There is no point in tipping over 15%. It's fvcking food. They are doing their gad damn job. Maybe if I were in a different state I would tip better, but in California, I know how much those bastages are making so I leave 10% for normal service (I think avg CA waiter makes $40-50k).

If the bastard sees that I'm an Asian ordering water and gives me bad service I will tip 5%.

If the bastard sees that I'm an Asian ordering water and is rude I will leave a quarter or a penny.

Also, in non-expensive Korean restaurants you tip $1 per person. Their asses don't pay taxes anyways so it's OK.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Because they have to tip out the bus boys as well as the other food runners. They make min. wage + your tips. So think about it they have to tip out EVERY bus boy and food runner that is assigned to their set of tables. They're also waiting on you, bringing things that you want, they come at your beck and call basically.

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Because they have to tip out the bus boys as well as the other food runners. They make min. wage + your tips. So think about it they have to tip out EVERY bus boy and food runner that is assigned to their set of tables. They're also waiting on you, bringing things that you want, they come at your beck and call basically.

so by that, my manager and supervisors should all tip me on top of my salary since i am at their beck and call...dont give me that crap. its their job to wait on tables, thats why they're called waiters.

 

[Triforceofcourage]

Originally posted by: vood0g

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Because they have to tip out the bus boys as well as the other food runners. They make min. wage + your tips. So think about it they have to tip out EVERY bus boy and food runner that is assigned to their set of tables. They're also waiting on you, bringing things that you want, they come at your beck and call basically.

so by that, my manager and supervisors should all tip me on top of my salary since i am at their beck and call...dont give me that crap. its their job to wait on tables, thats why they're called waiters.

pwned

 

[MySoS]

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: vood0g
i think managers should just pay the minimum wage for the wait staff so we none of will have to tip anymore. and that bull about "if waiters get minimum wage, then prices will go up" is total bullsh1t. i seriously doubt food prices are going up beyond what people should tip anyway. even if food prices do go beyond the average tip, i still think it will be worth it.

having a minimum wage and no tipping will most likely lead to better overall service.

In California restaurants HAVE to pay minimum wage ($7.25) on top of the tips they make. Such BS.

Sometimes I leave a quarter if I feel offended by the service I receive. There is no point in tipping over 15%. It's fvcking food. They are doing their gad damn job. Maybe if I were in a different state I would tip better, but in California, I know how much those bastages are making so I leave 10% for normal service (I think avg CA waiter makes $40-50k).

If the bastard sees that I'm an Asian ordering water and gives me bad service I will tip 5%.

If the bastard sees that I'm an Asian ordering water and is rude I will leave a quarter or a penny.

Also, in non-expensive Korean restaurants you tip $1 per person. Their asses don't pay taxes anyways so it's OK.

California min. wage is 6.75 not 7.25

 

[beer]

Maybe it's a west coast thing, I don't know, with the <10% tips and whatnot. I waited tables at a moderately priced Italitan restaurant in Texas. Yes, asians generally tip lower than whites. Yes, I know, STEREOTYPICALLY blacks tipped less.

In my experience, though, professionals - white, asian, or black - tipped right around 20%, universally. A group of businessmen will typically go around 30% since it isn't their money anyways, and most of them have 'been there' at some point. Typically, a black couple would tip around 20% - I think it reflects your character how much you tip, and if you're on a date with someone it reflects poorly on you if you tip poorly. If you can spend $50 on a meal, $10 versus $7 is but about 5% of your total ticket but influences what the waiter takes home by much more - since waiters pay 3% or so of the total sale in tipout, regardless of what they were tipped.

Indians were lower tippers, yes. But a lot of time, the tickets were lower since most of them would prefer pasta or vegetarian entrees to meat. Families tipped less than couples, which tipped less then business outings.

I waited tables every weekend for nearly seven months. The lowest tip I EVER got was from a while couple, and that was about 12%. I have NEVER been tipped less than that. Those of you that tip at or less than 10%, you are in the vast, vast minority, and whether or not you agree if you are with people and pull that sh!t, it does reflect on your character in a nonflattering way.

 

[RaDragon]

Originally posted by: rsd
Hmm...I would say I get water more often than not, but still tip %20 usually.

Ditto.

 

[Mr N8]

Originally posted by: rsd
Hmm...I would say I get water more often than not, but still tip %20 usually.

That's what I do. I drink water, usually, but tip at or just above 20%. A better tip will get you remembered by the wait staff, and you will most times gett better service in your next visits.

 

[rh71]

we were in maui back in september and had a $30 meal... I didn't think anything of it and just doubled the tax for the tip like always... (in NY it's 8.75% tax) ... oops... I came to realize Maui's tax was real low... 4%. Oops.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage

Originally posted by: vood0g

Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan

Originally posted by: RightWinga
What's the point of tipping 20%? Let alone 15%? Heck why tip 10%? Waiters avg like $22/hour...for taking your order and carrying food...anyone else find that BS?!

Because they have to tip out the bus boys as well as the other food runners. They make min. wage + your tips. So think about it they have to tip out EVERY bus boy and food runner that is assigned to their set of tables. They're also waiting on you, bringing things that you want, they come at your beck and call basically.

so by that, my manager and supervisors should all tip me on top of my salary since i am at their beck and call...dont give me that crap. its their job to wait on tables, thats why they're called waiters.

pwned

Do you work at a restaurant? No? Then STFU. This applies to if you work at a restaurant.

You don't HAVE to tip them. But you do if you FEEL like they've given you good service. So stfu. If you don't tip out the bus boys etc, they can refuse to service your tables, and in turn give you a bad rap with your customers. Once you've worked at a restaurant, then say something. Don't bitch about it otherwise.

EDIT:

Oh wait you said you make SALARY as well. Once you make min. wage. then say something. These people are working per hour. The only reason why McDonalds and such doesn't have a tip jar or anything of the sort is because the company WILL not allow them to take tips.

Their job is also harder than it seems. They have to go through training, they have to be careful about all the stuff they carry and try to be efficient. It's a very faced paced environment (especially around lunch and dinner time) that it's difficult to give 100% to each and every table. That's what you're tipping for. The service. If they do a bad job, you just tip them less. Or if you don't feel that you need to tip them at all, don't.

So you agree with the poster that I quoted, that you shouldn't tip? And you don't in general tip the person that waits on you? Then does that mean you don't tip taxi drivers, hair stylists, full service car wash places, handwash car places at all?

 

[LiquidX]

Unless someone goes out of there way for me I dont think they deserve a tip and with eating out I generally never give one unless I regulary visit a certain restaurant and the only reason I would leave one is to prevent the waiters from spitting in my food which they probally do anyway because there pist the Indian or black party didnt tip enough.


I agree with the other poster, its your damn job. If you feel the pay is too low and you need me to make it up get another one or just panhandle on the corner.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

I was pointing out (to the person I originally quoted) that they are simply not the only ones being tipped and getting the assumed $22 p/h. Now lets look at another PoV shall we?

Majority of people who are waiters, are college students. The reason they get jobs at a restaurant is because 1. it's part time, and 2. because of the tips. A lot of these people do a GREAT job at doing what they do and they give great service. This is why they aren't working at McDonalds or BK ... or some random fast food restaurant. Now assume, they're not allowed to get tips anymore. What would then make a nice sit down restaurant, any different from a fast food restaurant? You would expect BETTER service from this restaurant ... at the same sort of pay? And mind you, these people are bringing out your food as well which, well they don't really do at fast food resturants. It doesn't add up in that case, unless, the restaurant decides to pay them more which ... quite frankly, restaurants never really do.

 

[oogabooga]

Well, i'm asian, drink alcohol, drink soda, and usually tip at least 15% unless the service was piss poor.

i guess i got it all wrong. water and no tip, plus split entrees seems to be the way to go.

 

[Ns1]

I agree with everything 100%

But let me tell you, the absolute WORST KIND OF TIPPER

ABSOLUTE WORST EVER


the wigger.
You know the one I'm talking about. the 89 accord driving mofo decked out in Pepboys mods wearing FuBu or Shadywear or whatever the fvck is urban but is as white as a ghost and trying SO SO SO SO hard to be black.


You might as well just call it a lost cause right there.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: rsd
Hmm...I would say I get water more often than not, but still tip %20 usually.

 

[LiquidX]

Maybe we should tip you SupaDupaPan for tipping everyone. You cant really compare a fast food joint to a retaurant because they almost never leave there post in a fast food joint where as paid waiter in a restaurant are expected to come up to the tables and serve the food. There being paid specifically to walk out there and put the food on the table. Most of them dont even arrange the plate.


If your going to leave tip for the waiter you should also leave one for the cook, dish washer and the dog that hangs out in back because there all doing a job.

 

[SupaDupaPan]

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Maybe we should tip you SupaDupaPan for tipping everyone. You cant really compare a fast food joint to a retaurant because they almost never leave there post in a fast food joint where as paid waiter in a restaurant are expected to come up to the tables and serve the food. There being paid specifically to walk out there and put the food on the table. Most of them dont even arrange the plate.


If your going to leave tip for the waiter you should also leave one for the cook, dish washer and the dog that hangs out in back because there all doing a job.

You can compare, because once again, they're making the same pay. Except with a fast food restaurant, they will pay the cashier etc, MORE than min. wage, where as with a sit down, it's always min. wage unless you're a cook etc. And the reason why you don't tip cooks and such, is because they already make more money. The dishwasher also, makes more money than min. so it is justified.

 

[shortylickens]

1st: I'm white.
2nd: I drink water because its cheap if not free.
It would seem our plan to save money at eateries by drinking more and eating less worked a little while.
Then the bussinessmen caught on. They started to charge more and more for the beverages. I've been in a little podunk desert town for a year now and I still get mad at the prices. A little family diner charges $2.50 for a glass of milk. And $6.00 for a bottle of domestic beer!.
I know they want to make money but this is sick.
3rd: The tip. I never break out a pocket caculator when the meal comes. If they did good, they get 5 bucks. If they did great, they get 10 or 15. If several of us go out and spend more than a hundred, the waitress automatically adds 15%.

Something that really bothers me: Once when a pizza arrived late I asked the delivery guy about it. While I appreciate his honesty I didnt care for what he had to say. Apperently my tips arent as good as most folks out here so I usually get pushed to the end of the list. This would explain several cool pizzas I have had over the past year.
My question is: 'does anyone notice a difference in races regarding delivery tips?' I always thought it was nice to give the guy a little something extra, because I figure most people dont. And the 2 dollar delivery charge cant be enough to support him. The problem is I have only found one pizza place to order from in this little town. If I've been drinking on a friday night its not like I can go out and get my own pizza when I suddenly feel hungry.