Oh, that's not good. Now there might come a bunch of replies, that these numbers are made up, DMIPS is old and doesn't reflect the improved NEON, that it's actually just 30% and 90% of it are the result of the new process, etc.
But actually in that chip with a decent RAM interface (even supporting DDR4, IIRC) and L2 cache those ARM cores might actually get something to do. How many ARM SoCs have RAM buses wider than 64 bit?
AMD mentions ECC for Hierofalcon but not for Bald Eagle in the same press release. Bald Eagle is likely the same die as Kaveri, which does not have ECC since it is targeted for desktop/laptop.
So we have a server roadmap that covers only niche servers and we also have an embedded roadmap. What we don't have is a mobile consumer roadmap but cat least here we have products announced, and we don't have any desktop roadmap at all.
Any doubts about where the priorities are?
AMD mentions ECC for Hierofalcon but not for Bald Eagle in the same press release. Bald Eagle is likely the same die as Kaveri, which does not have ECC since it is targeted for desktop/laptop.
God you're so predictable. Now that your last argument died a few days after you made the claim (AMD is no longer designing chips, good one :thumbsup, you're going to move on to "the company priority is embedded"?
Yeah, that's pretty much my interpretation. by much I mean something relevant to the consumer market, something that can push boundaries in one way or another, and their silence doesn't seem to mean they are working on something like that.
They might be working on some new "semi-custom" design that will pay the bills for another couple of years but that will be a yawn from the consumer POV. Given that their forecast is for embedded/semicustom to have a bigger share in their revenues, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
AMD is no longer designing chips, good one :thumbsup:
God you're so predictable. Now that your last argument died a few days after you made the claim (AMD is no longer designing chips, good one :thumbsup, you're going to move on to "the company priority is embedded"?
Give it a rest.
It isn't me saying that embedded is a priority, but Rory Read himself in the events he spoke.
No, that's the 2014 AMD, the one that does not have enough resources to develop entire chips unless paid up front by the customer. You can bet your money that AMD will buy a lot more of IP blocks in the future
Oh btw, this is the post I meant - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35461053&postcount=4
No you quite clearly say that AMD can no longer develop chips unless paid for up front by the customer, and with your comment in this thread it's clear that you believe this is AMD's new strategy and they will never develop another consumer chip.
AMD quite clearly on the horizon(5years) looks to be shifting away from mainstream computing products.
AMD quite clearly on the horizon(5years) looks to be shifting away from mainstream computing products.
Where did you see that spoken by anyone from AMD ?? They simple saying they will ALSO focus on more than traditional PC, not that they will shift away from PC.
Just exactly where is the market for a 4 core (Big Core) Server CPU. India? Assuming AMD will be much cheaper than Intel? APU or not, I just don't see this one.
Where did you see that spoken by anyone from AMD ?? They simple saying they will ALSO focus on more than traditional PC, not that they will shift away from PC.
Where did i say:
"AMD SPOKESPERSON PIESQUARED THE HONORED SAYS AMD IS FOCUSING AWAY FROM THE PC MARKET"
I didn't.
It was my own ...analysis if you will.
Which with all the fantastic products piesquared is now promoting in the embedded space - should be obvious.
The VIA analogies made last year that made you amongst others rage - are becoming even more synonymous now.
Wether that's bad or not - i'll let you vultures argue about but i'm sure the outcome will be "AMD IS AWESOME".
London, England -- June 5, 2013 -- According to preliminary findings from the 2013 edition of Semicast's Embedded Processing Service, Intel was the largest supplier of embedded processors in 2012, just ahead of Qualcomm. Broadcom maintained its position as third largest supplier, while Samsung traded places with Texas Instruments for fourth and fifth respectively.
Semicast defines embedded processing to include ASICs, ASSPs, PLDs, FPGAs, 32/64-bit microcontrollers & embedded microprocessors and general purpose DSPs; compute CPUs and 8/16-bit MCUs are excluded. Embedded processing is a vast market, estimated to have been worth around USD 90 billion in 2012, or nearly one-third of the semiconductor total available market (TAM). Like the semiconductor market as a whole, revenue growth for embedded processors has stalled somewhat in recent years, totaling USD 89 billion in 2010 and USD 83 billion in 2008. However within this slowly growing market there have been clear winners, mostly those companies with a focus on tablets and smartphones.
Just exactly where is the market for a 4 core (Big Core) Server CPU. India? Assuming AMD will be much cheaper than Intel? APU or not, I just don't see this one.
ps: It is funny that some people here believe that embedded is a niche with a 90bil market.
Not everyone needs a multi socket with lots of cores ,
there s little corporates whose needs are merely data ,
archiving and related averagely low usage hardware.
I'll assume it's for their SeaMicro line, and is aimed at customers who currently run virtualized servers on existing rack or blade servers.
Here we go! HSA is going to be awesome.
http://community.amd.com/community/...-accelerated-features-to-adobe-creative-cloud