http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130716PD202.htmlAMD's Kaveri-based APUs are unlikely to show up in the market until February 2014 as mass production will not be ready until the end of 2013, according to sources from PC players.
AMD originally expected to start supplying its Heterogeneous System Architecture (HAS) Kaveri APUs in the second half of 2013, but according to the company's latest plans, the CPU maker will only provide two A10 and one A8 APU pilot production samples to its clients in December 2013, indicating that Kaveri APU-based PC products may have difficulties showing up in the retail channel before April 2014, the sources said.
Desktop Kaveri probably not before April 2014 and mobile Kaveri not before June 2014.
Damn this is bad. Broadwell-U/Y are placed within H1/2014 in Intel's roadmaps and the rest of the mobile Broadwell line up is probably coming early H2/2014. Seems like 28nm Kaveri will spend most of its life competing with 14nm Broadwell and its improved CPU performance/greatly improved GPU performance (vs Haswell).
Life in the high end is tough, isn't it?
AMD needs to kill its big cores now.
It's not shipping in December. With a bit of luck mass production is starting.
AMD must surely be worried about the incredible advances coming from Intel over the next year. How will they cope against the might of "Haswell refresh" and much higher priced Broadwell mobile chips? Surely doomed this time!
Back in reality, it's probably been delayed because they have been inundated with console orders. The reality of the market is desktop CPU's are bottom rung in terms of importance for both Intel and AMD, and Jaguar is the only chip that matters to the latter.
this is assuming kaveri and console apus are using the same fab, is it tsmc or glofo?
AMD must surely be worried about the incredible advances coming from Intel over the next year. How will they cope against the might of "Haswell refresh" and much higher priced Broadwell mobile chips? Surely doomed this time!
You don't...get it...do you? AMD's stuff is cheaper precisely because it fails to keep up in terms of performance per watt, and a two node process disadvantage is certainly a contributor to this lag. Broadwell will command a premium precisely because it will be a better performer per watt.
What Broadwell? :awe:
Actually, as far as process goes, this doesn't make a difference. What AMD had was a small opportunity to inch closer, but now that's being pushed back by several months. 2014 won't see a 14nm Broadwell but rather a 22nm Haswell refresh, which likely means small bump in clock speed.
AMD isn't being screwed on the process side by Intel, but ARM.
On desktop we get a 22nm Haswell refresh, but in notebooks - where all of the sales are - AMD will be fighting with a 28nm Kaveri against a 14nm Broadwell.
Good luck, AMD.
It's Digitimes, let's not act like this is a fact until confirmation.
You don't...get it...do you? AMD's stuff is cheaper precisely because it fails to keep up in terms of performance per watt, and a two node process disadvantage is certainly a contributor to this lag. Broadwell will command a premium precisely because it will be a better performer per watt.
One can wait for confirmation, but I think it was pretty logical to assume Kaveri would not be seen until 2014 even without this announcement. It is already mid July, and we havent even seen any leaks, so to me it was highly doubtful it would be seen in 2014, especially since we are just beginning to see real availability of Richland.