Dilema on ebay gtx760

[tenpole]

I have been searching for weeks to get a good deal on ebay for a graphics card for my system. Currently using the integrated graphics on the g3258.
At first I was just looking at low end Gt730 and 740 but for the performance these cards deliver and the price they were going for I thought it was not worth it, best to stick with what I have got.
I started to look at gtx750 ti but these for some reason seem to hold there price. I made some half hearted bids on gtx 660 cards but I kept feeling this was a backward leap rather than a backward step.
The GTX 760 looks like a better deal as this was roughly selling for the same to £10 more than the Gtx 750 Ti and I think that it was mentioned in this forum the gtx 760 is a signaficantly better performer than the 750ti.
770 and greater went beyond my price range.
I finally won an auction for a MSI gtx760 oc gaming edition card that had been used in a sli set up and the seller was getting rid of both. The seller now has a gtx 980.

His first card sold for £79 and the next I won at £65. I guess Antiques Roadshow's nude held bidders attention on tv.

Ten minutes after auction end I get a message that there has been a technical difficulty with the card and it is being RMA 'd to Netherlands. I asked for an explanation as the auction stated card in perfect working order and the seller replied that he had broken a fan while packing the card.

I have not paid for the item yet nor will I until I have received confirmation that the card is back in working order. I do want the seller to honour the auction. I want this card by May 24th for Warhammer total war.

 

[iiiankiii]

Don't waste your time. It sounds shady already. Request an end to the auction and look else where. You're just asking for trouble at this point. What if the card is really broken? Why would you want him to send you a broken card? Lets say it isn't and he was hoping to get a bit more on the auction. The best you can do is give a negative feedback to the seller. Big deal.

Don't waste your time. There are plenty of other cards out there on eBay. Don't complicate the issue.

 

[RussianSensation]

I want this card by May 24th for Warhammer total war.

I'd buy something closer to launch date.

- The game can be delayed
- There could be even better deals on older cards as people start selling off their cards in preparation for upgrading to Pascal/Polaris
- Wait for benchmarks of the game to see how well your CPU + GTX760 game
- You'll see if 2GB vs. 3-4GB makes a big difference in the game. The last thing you want is to buy a 2GB card and it bombs in that game. We've seen many modern games that show that 2GB no longer cuts it.

I'd stay far away from anything with Kepler anyway. By June 2016, it'll be a 2 generations behind for NV which means driver optimizations will become almost non-existent. At that point it'd be better to pay a little more for GTX950/950/380. This also gives you more time to save up for a better card than the 760.

 

[tenpole]

Don't waste your time. It sounds shady already. Request an end to the auction and look else where. You're just asking for trouble at this point. What if the card is really broken? Why would you want him to send you a broken card? Lets say it isn't and he was hoping to get a bit more on the auction. The best you can do is give a negative feedback to the seller. Big deal.

Don't waste your time. There are plenty of other cards out there on eBay. Don't complicate the issue.

I am apprehensive about the whole affair so would use caution. The seller only has 20 in his feedback but this is over a long time. 6 of the feedback was for items sold. One of the items was a graphics card over a year ago so I would guess he regularly upgrades his graphics card.

I think best is to continue bidding on other cards and if I get one at the same price, go for that. I doubt the seller would get the card back from Holland soon. I would not have thought breaking a fan would be covered in the warranty.

 

[tenpole]

I'd buy something closer to launch date.

- The game can be delayed

Yes but I would still want a graphics card, not just for this game.

- There could be even better deals on older cards as people start selling off their cards in preparation for upgrading to Pascal/Polaris
- Wait for benchmarks of the game to see how well your CPU + GTX760 game

I did not know there were a new set of cards coming out. I thought the 900 series was new. The trouble is there are so many buyers thinking this will be a good time to pick up older tech cheap.

- You'll see if 2GB vs. 3-4GB makes a big difference in the game. The last thing you want is to buy a 2GB card and it bombs in that game. We've seen many modern games that show that 2GB no longer cuts it.

The higher Gb models are out of my price range. On ebay a GTX 760 4gb currently going for £122

I'd stay far away from anything with Kepler anyway. By June 2016, it'll be a 2 generations behind for NV which means driver optimizations will become almost non-existent. At that point it'd be better to pay a little more for GTX950/950/380. This also gives you more time to save up for a better card than the 760.

Kepler is still better than integrated graphics on my G3258, which incidentally I still love after a year of ownership despite the Nay sayers.

 

[Vaporizer]

Why not look for an used 7950/7970 or 280? All these are vastly better than gtx760 or lower tier. All of them have at least 3GB of VRAM.

 

[tenpole]

Why not look for an used 7950/7970 or 280? All these are vastly better than gtx760 or lower tier. All of them have at least 3GB of VRAM.

I am a bit worried about the AMD range as they seem to overheat and die.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

65 pounds isn't a bad price for a 760 now, but I'd check it agian when the card is back from rma. Maybe the used market will overflow with 600 and 700 cards in a month or so, when the new cards come out.

 

[Headfoot]

I am a bit worried about the AMD range as they seem to overheat and die.

You realize that's entirely unsubstantiated FUD right? Unless you're talking about avoiding coinmining cards....

 

[tenpole]

You realize that's entirely unsubstantiated FUD right? Unless you're talking about avoiding coinmining cards....

There seem to be a high number of faulty amd cards on ebay. They run at a hotter temp and use more power. Other than that I dont know much about them.
I will have a look at the R9 280 and 280x to see how the price compares.

 

[kraatus77]

There seem to be a high number of faulty amd cards on ebay. They run at a hotter temp and use more power. Other than that I dont know much about them.
I will have a look at the R9 280 and 280x to see how the price compares.

Because amd cards are better at mining and for that you need to run them 24x7 most of the time. and in that situation even nvidia card will get into problems. for normal gaming use there's no difference on their usability compared to nvidia cards.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

It's also because amd allows you to overvolt quite a bit when overclocking, where with kepler it's quite hard to go much above 1.2V.

 

[Headfoot]

There seem to be a high number of faulty amd cards on ebay. They run at a hotter temp and use more power. Other than that I dont know much about them.
I will have a look at the R9 280 and 280x to see how the price compares.

You are conflating things that are not the same. Using more power or running hotter does not mean faulty. Faulty means exceeding design limits. You can buy cards with aftermarket coolers (in fact, almost everything you'll find used is using an aftermarket cooler) which is cooler and quieter than stock by quite a bit. There may be more faulty AMD cards on ebay, but that's likely due to how hard they've been used by coin miners. All those cards need is a new cooler as what is actually wearing out is usually the fan.

 

[tenpole]

Sorry I kind of made a statement without adding ∴
The AMD cards run hotter giving a greater chance of overheating. There are a significant number of faulty, for parts amd cards on ebay. That has not put me off them as many gamers have well ventilated cases so cards should be in just as good condition as Nvidia.
If I can pick up a R9 280x for £65 yeah I would be happy.

 

[Headfoot]

Sorry I kind of made a statement without adding ∴
The AMD cards run hotter giving a greater chance of overheating. There are a significant number of faulty, for parts amd cards on ebay. That has not put me off them as many gamers have well ventilated cases so cards should be in just as good condition as Nvidia.
If I can pick up a R9 280x for £65 yeah I would be happy.

No man, it just isn't true. AMD cards dont have a greater chance of overheating. That's straight up not true. It's 100% dependent on what OEM you are using and thus what fan the OEM is using. The early ASUS 290s are bad for example, but the Sapphire Tri-X 290 is extremely good. On the flip side, the reference 980 Ti throttles because it runs too hot. Both the 980 Ti and 290 reference versions suck, and I'd avoid them. Almost every aftermarket fan for any of the cards works well

The quietest aircooled card ever created is an AMD card, fyi. Sapphire's Fury card (not that I would suggest it since the Fury isn't a good buy generally speaking).

Unless that looks like overheating to you...

TL: DR; Card overheating is 100% dependent on what fan is on it, which is 100% dependent on what OEM you bought it from unless you change it yourself.

 

[tenpole]

In that case Headfoot I am sold. If I can pick up a better performer for the same or less money I will have an AMD card.
A Gigabyte R9 270 just sold for £67.

 

[swilli89]

In that case Headfoot I am sold. If I can pick up a better performer for the same or less money I will have an AMD card.
A Gigabyte R9 270 just sold for £67.

Try to find a Radeon 7950 or a Radeon 280.

 

[RussianSensation]

In that case Headfoot I am sold. If I can pick up a better performer for the same or less money I will have an AMD card.
A Gigabyte R9 270 just sold for £67.

Go for after-market (open air cooled with 2-3 fans) card, made by Gigabyte Windforce, Sapphire Dual-X/Vapor X, HIS IceQ, MSI TwinFrozr, or PowerColor PCS+. All of those are excellent cool 7950-7970 cards. For 280X, Sapphire Tri-X is awesome.

 

[PontiacGTX]

I am a bit worried about the AMD range as they seem to overheat and die.

Total misinformation heat wise tahiti gpus use same quantity of power as gk104 and nvidia has been ceripplimg the driver for kepler gpus.and warhammer will perform better on amd given asynchrnous compute(nvidia gets worse performance with asynchrbous shaders)

 

[tenpole]

Ended up getting a gtx 960 for £130 new.

 

[RussianSensation]

Ended up getting a gtx 960 for £130 new.

Did you at least get the 4GB version?

 

[tenpole]

No the 4gb version was going for too much. All the 4gb across all the gpu's went for loads even second hand.