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ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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When literally the whole point of the protest is to get people talking about it, it's really hard to argue that they're not being successful. I think football is literally the dumbest sport in the history of earth, and all fans of it are just fuckin assholes, and even I've heard about this. If the players were at risk of losing their job, you might have a point. Maybe. You don't have to agree with their point to know that they're making a point.

I think my point went way over your head. Anyway, my issue is with Trump, not the players. I could give two sh!ts about the NFL so I have no stake in what they do with all those payers money.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Honestly, I don't understand why people really care about this. I also don't understand why people have such high reverence for the flag or the national anthem. I look at them as simply mutable symbols that reference the country and its values, and it's those values that I care more about. You can argue that it's those values that are the immutable definition of the country. I guess that's why it never really bothered me.

I do not sit down to watch football to watch protesters. Do it on your own time, not mine.

You shouldn't be sitting down during the national anthem anyway!
 

FerrelGeek

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Jan 22, 2009
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It's only being ruined for triggered snowflakes who are losing one of their safe spaces.

Translation - Only libs are allowed to be offended by other's forms of expression. How about we keep politics out of sports? I'm genuinely glad for these guys that've won life's lottery and are talented enough to land a job in the NFL, but I don't about what cause du jeur they're pushing. Play your game for all you're worth, don't beat up or rape your girlfriend, don't engage in dogfighting, don't shoot anyone, don't get involved with drugs, and I'll respect you. You poor libs just can't take people disagreeing with you and refusing to be assimilated into your dreary collective. It's sad. When I was a kid, it was the libs that were the trend-setters, the non-conformists, the questioners of the establishment, the advocates of freedom. Libs have devolved into everything they once hated. I actually pity them.
 
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slayer202

Lifer
Nov 27, 2005
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Translation - Only libs are allowed to be offended by other's forms of expression. How about we keep politics out of sports? I'm genuinely glad for these guys that've won life's lottery and are talented enough to land a job in the NFL, but I don't about what cause du jeur they're pushing. Play your game for all you're worth, don't beat up or rape your girlfriend, don't engage in dogfighting, don't shoot anyone, don't get involved with drugs, and I'll respect you. You poor libs just can't take people disagreeing with you and refusing to be assimilated into your dreary collective. It's sad. When I was a kid, it was the libs that were the trend-setters, the non-conformists, the questioners of the establishment, the advocates of freedom. Libs have devolved into everything they once hated. I actually pity them.

the definition of stupidity in 2017. all sides are not equal
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Translation - Only libs are allowed to be offended by other's forms of expression. How about we keep politics out of sports? I'm genuinely glad for these guys that've won life's lottery and are talented enough to land a job in the NFL, but I don't about what cause du jeur they're pushing. Play your game for all you're worth, don't beat up or rape your girlfriend, don't engage in dogfighting, don't shoot anyone, don't get involved with drugs, and I'll respect you. You poor libs just can't take people disagreeing with you and refusing to be assimilated into your dreary collective. It's sad. When I was a kid, it was the libs that were the trend-setters, the non-conformists, the questioners of the establishment, the advocates of freedom. Libs have devolved into everything they once hated. I actually pity them.
Cry more.
 

NesuD

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Everyone has the right to speak their mind. If they do it on the job it is their employers problem not mine. I think it is disrespectful to take the knee as it were but its not my job to enforce respect. I just wait an extra five minutes before I tune in so I don't have to watch it or if I am particularly bothered just do something else altogether. In any case the more you respond the more effective it is. If you feel very strongly about it probably the best way to make it stop is to simply ignore it. This past weekend is a pretty good example of what happens when someone high profile starts spouting off about it like a moron. Just poured gasoline on the fire.
 

cbrunny

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Oct 12, 2007
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Translation - Only libs are allowed to be offended by other's forms of expression. How about we keep politics out of sports? I'm genuinely glad for these guys that've won life's lottery and are talented enough to land a job in the NFL, but I don't about what cause du jeur they're pushing. Play your game for all you're worth, don't beat up or rape your girlfriend, don't engage in dogfighting, don't shoot anyone, don't get involved with drugs, and I'll respect you. You poor libs just can't take people disagreeing with you and refusing to be assimilated into your dreary collective. It's sad. When I was a kid, it was the libs that were the trend-setters, the non-conformists, the questioners of the establishment, the advocates of freedom. Libs have devolved into everything they once hated. I actually pity them.
this doesn't even approach near-sensical. I agree with nakedfrog. You should go cry more.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Translation - Only libs are allowed to be offended by other's forms of expression. How about we keep politics out of sports? I'm genuinely glad for these guys that've won life's lottery and are talented enough to land a job in the NFL, but I don't about what cause du jeur they're pushing. Play your game for all you're worth, don't beat up or rape your girlfriend, don't engage in dogfighting, don't shoot anyone, don't get involved with drugs, and I'll respect you. You poor libs just can't take people disagreeing with you and refusing to be assimilated into your dreary collective. It's sad. When I was a kid, it was the libs that were the trend-setters, the non-conformists, the questioners of the establishment, the advocates of freedom. Libs have devolved into everything they once hated. I actually pity them.

Before 2009, players used to sit in the locker room while the anthem was played then came onto the field but the military started paying the NFL millions to have the players on the field as a recruiting tool by having the players out on the sidelines. If you were ever at a sporting event(any), you will find spectators sitting, using the bathroom, running to the concession lines, etc. So, the US gov't made it political and spectators are just as disrespectful. And you sound like a dotard like our POTUS.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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How about we keep politics out of sports?
Politics is trying to decide whether or not to regulate, tax, educate, create and enforce laws. It's about how to govern the people. Bringing to light the systemic racism in our country has nothing to do with politics and you're complicit with said racism if you merely try to shrug it off as such.

It's ironic. If there's one thing that needs to be done to Make America Great, it's fighting racism, and yet Trumpsters (I do not use that term condescendingly; I simply do not know how such people self identify their group) are ostensibly vehemently against this.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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I remember a popular football player taking a knee for God and the lefest snowflakes were up in arms. I call it a double standard. Colin Kaperdick started this BS and I don't think these football players really know what they are protesting. If it truly is about "discrimination" or some shit, the field isn't the venue. Go do that shit in front of your local precinct.

The majority of America does not support this taking a knee shit, they are burning their jerseys, tickets, hats, you name it. The NFL is going to lose their ass. And I hope we pull their tax dollars too! Can you imagine what service men and woman thought when those assholes took a knee in Britain watching from Afghanistan on the Armed Forces Network?!
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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Before 2009, players used to sit in the locker room while the anthem was played then came onto the field but the military started paying the NFL millions to have the players on the field as a recruiting tool by having the players out on the sidelines. If you were ever at a sporting event(any), you will find spectators sitting, using the bathroom, running to the concession lines, etc. So, the US gov't made it political and spectators are just as disrespectful. And you sound like a dotard like our POTUS.


"In 2015, Sen. John McCain and Sen. John Flake released a joint oversight report on what they called the “paid patriotism,” saying the Department of Defense gave as much as $6.8 million in taxpayer money to professional sports teams to honor the military at games and events over the past four years. McCain criticized the move in a statement at the time, saying, “Fans should have confidence that their hometown heroes are being honored because of their honorable military service, not as a marketing ploy.”
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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I remember a popular football player taking a knee for God and the lefest snowflakes were up in arms. I call it a double standard. Colin Kaperdick started this BS and I don't think these football players really know what they are protesting. If it truly is about "discrimination" or some shit, the field isn't the venue. Go do that shit in front of your local precinct.

The majority of America does not support this taking a knee shit, they are burning their jerseys, tickets, hats, you name it. The NFL is going to lose their ass. And I hope we pull their tax dollars too! Can you imagine what service men and woman thought when those assholes took a knee in Britain watching from Afghanistan on the Armed Forces Network?!

"Majority" huh
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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You know, I don't recall seeing this kind of outrage from certain people when NYPD, in uniform, turned their backs on on the mayor (their bosses boss) in protest.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Honestly, I don't understand why people really care about this. I also don't understand why people have such high reverence for the flag or the national anthem. I look at them as simply mutable symbols that reference the country and its values, and it's those values that I care more about. You can argue that it's those values that are the immutable definition of the country. I guess that's why it never really bothered me.



You shouldn't be sitting down during the national anthem anyway!

I have a great reverence for the flag, and the national anthem, but not for them directly; rather, for what they mean and represent. The flag is not a god, it is a symbol of so much more. It is also in of itself a support for the underdog who champions civil rights and freedom, but we have let the message get muddied so that we now see it as a contract with a specific brand of freedom in which the wording changes for every situation one could argue. We can't have moving goal posts based on personal desires.

What is the alternative? We mandate ever citizen stand at attention and/or render a hand salute during any rendering of the National Anthem? That's not a good look for America the Free.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Honestly, I don't understand why people really care about this. I also don't understand why people have such high reverence for the flag or the national anthem. I look at them as simply mutable symbols that reference the country and its values, and it's those values that I care more about. You can argue that it's those values that are the immutable definition of the country. I guess that's why it never really bothered me.



You shouldn't be sitting down during the national anthem anyway!

I agree. It's a flag. But I wish people would be consistent with their message. The people I hear being the most openly offended by this kneeling are people who see nothing wrong with flying the confederate flag or better yet, jumping up and down at the mere thought of this guy running for senate in Michigan:



This guy is a GD American Patriot to the people buttsore over this Anthem crap...
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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I remember a popular football player taking a knee for God and the lefest snowflakes were up in arms. I call it a double standard. Colin Kaperdick started this BS and I don't think these football players really know what they are protesting. If it truly is about "discrimination" or some shit, the field isn't the venue. Go do that shit in front of your local precinct.

The majority of America does not support this taking a knee shit, they are burning their jerseys, tickets, hats, you name it. The NFL is going to lose their ass. And I hope we pull their tax dollars too! Can you imagine what service men and woman thought when those assholes took a knee in Britain watching from Afghanistan on the Armed Forces Network?!

You're stupid like the rest of them. More like whites don't like blacks protesting.

And this 97 year old WWII vet disagrees with you. #takeaknee

https://twitter.com/brennanmgilmore/status/911960316220764160/

 
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JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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I remember a popular football player taking a knee for God and the lefest snowflakes were up in arms. I call it a double standard.
You do realize that by your own bitching about Kaepernick, that makes you just as much of a hypocrite as those who didn't like Tebow, right? Not to mention the fact that I don't know a single person who gave an iota of care that Tebow thanked God on every play, whether they be Republican, Democrat, Christian, atheist, or any other political or religious group.

Colin Kaperdick started this BS and I don't think these football players really know what they are protesting.
Yeah, Kaepernick, you don't know what you're protesting even though you're the one who started it! You don't even know!

If it truly is about "discrimination" or some shit, the field isn't the venue. Go do that shit in front of your local precinct.
First, there is no "if" here. At this point, you have to be living under a rock or be extremely willfully ignorant to ignore what is staring you in the face.

Second, the field is absolutely the venue. They spend a few minutes of their time, not even speaking a word, to peacefully protest, and it gets people talking about a problem this country has. This is the epitome of good protesting.


The majority of America does not support this taking a knee shit, they are burning their jerseys, tickets, hats, you name it. The NFL is going to lose their ass. And I hope we pull their tax dollars too!
Yeah, I'd like to see you prove this "majority". I suspect your only news comes from right wing sources.

Can you imagine what service men and woman thought when those assholes took a knee in Britain watching from Afghanistan on the Armed Forces Network?!

What about 97-year-old World War II vets? Or how about Four Star generals? Players aren't being disrespectful to our troops. Kneeling during the anthem isn't disrespecting the flag or the anthem. Though it is a code of conduct violation to not stand with your hand over your heart, by performing this mild violation they're using their right to free speech and are upholding the values which we as Americans hold dear. According to our own Declaration of Independence, and reinforced countless times in the Bible I assume you hold dear, all are equal. These NFL players are kneeling for that, because there are problems in this country that run counter to that belief. By trying to change the goalposts from this message to one of presumed disrespect, you are only hurting this ideal.

Perhaps you need to take a look in the mirror and consider whether or not your actions, rather than the players', are what's truly disrespectful.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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You do realize that by your own bitching about Kaepernick, that makes you just as much of a hypocrite as those who didn't like Tebow, right? Not to mention the fact that I don't know a single person who gave an iota of care that Tebow thanked God on every play, whether they be Republican, Democrat, Christian, atheist, or any other political or religious group.


Yeah, Kaepernick, you don't know what you're protesting even though you're the one who started it! You don't even know!


First, there is no "if" here. At this point, you have to be living under a rock or be extremely willfully ignorant to ignore what is staring you in the face.

Second, the field is absolutely the venue. They spend a few minutes of their time, not even speaking a word, to peacefully protest, and it gets people talking about a problem this country has. This is the epitome of good protesting.



Yeah, I'd like to see you prove this "majority". I suspect your only news comes from right wing sources.



What about 97-year-old World War II vets? Or how about Four Star generals? Players aren't being disrespectful to our troops. Kneeling during the anthem isn't disrespecting the flag or the anthem. Though it is a code of conduct violation to not stand with your hand over your heart, by performing this mild violation they're using their right to free speech and are upholding the values which we as Americans hold dear. According to our own Declaration of Independence, and reinforced countless times in the Bible I assume you hold dear, all are equal. These NFL players are kneeling for that, because there are problems in this country that run counter to that belief. By trying to change the goalposts from this message to one of presumed disrespect, you are only hurting this ideal.

Perhaps you need to take a look in the mirror and consider whether or not your actions, rather than the players', are what's truly disrespectful.


The side of your field may seem green to you, but that's only because it's fertilized with bullshit.

Carry on idiot warrior. You have a future SJW carrier in the countries of China, Cuba, Laos and maybe Venezuela.
 

FerrelGeek

Diamond Member
Jan 22, 2009
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I agree with this.

"In 2015, Sen. John McCain and Sen. John Flake released a joint oversight report on what they called the “paid patriotism,” saying the Department of Defense gave as much as $6.8 million in taxpayer money to professional sports teams to honor the military at games and events over the past four years. McCain criticized the move in a statement at the time, saying, “Fans should have confidence that their hometown heroes are being honored because of their honorable military service, not as a marketing ploy.”
 

FerrelGeek

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Jan 22, 2009
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Glad to see I stirred up a snowflake squall. Typical of how libs have devolved. 'Our side is holy, righteous, and just; so if you don't agree with us, you're a polar opposite of us.' Remember, you libs were the ones who ragged on Bush for his, 'If you're not with us, you're against us.' rhetoric. For the record, I didn't care for that comment either. Just because I'm critical of something doesn't mean I'm crying over it. Stop projecting.

So, why wasn't the lone Steeler's right to free expression, by standing for the Anthem, not respected? It sure appears like he was told to apologize for his 'stance' when he should've had no reason to do so. Who 'convinced' the Cowboys leadership to change their minds? They were vehement that no one on their team had better take a knee then did a 180. For that matter, why was it ok for the Cowboys leadership to tell the players that they couldn't wear armbands (or whatever it was) to show support for the murdered cops a year or so ago?

Personally, I'd be fine with going back to the old way of having the players come out after the anthem or give them the option to go out. Like I said in my original post, get politics out of sports, nd cause pandering as well.
 
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