Disappointed by AMD

[xthetenth]

$300 for a card 25-35% faster than a 980 that costs $470-500? Fury X at $549 would sell well but right now it's about $100 overpriced I'd say for those of us who overclock. HDMI 2.0 isn't that big of an issue for everyone though so I don't see it as a major negative, albeit a negative for those gamers needing 1440P @ 120Hz on Korean monitors or 4K gamers on an HDTV (but you'd then need 2x 980Ti or 2x Fury X to enjoy games on said TV which is 1% of the entire GPU market who spends $1300+ on flagship cards in a pair). Also, the point of the card running hotter than a 980, not sure where you got that from.

Anyway, go ahead and buy an after-market 980Ti and enjoy it.

If I didn't have a 970 in my case, I'd have pulled the trigger on the $550 Tiger Direct price in an instant and rolled the dice on OC performance. Cooler and quiet out of the box matters to me, and the lower performance is well worth saving $200. $300 is way less than that card's worth.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

3 weeks is a long time wait for an inferior product.

But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???

.......

 

[Phynaz]

True, the Nano seem pretty cool. But I don't think anyone Fury X user will be happy. This card just absolutely blow.

Oh come on, it doesn't blow. It's just not what you hoped for.

I promise you that anyone that buys a Fury X should be very happy with it. If they aren't going to be happy with a Fury X, they aren't going to be any happier with a 980ti.

 

[iiiankiii]

Nothing makes me happy now. Already miss out on a free game with the 980ti but it seem I can't do that either cause Nvidia Surround absolutely suck. I show no brand loyalty. All I want is competition and what is best for us consumer. I'm also not sold on VR because the games that are on VR now are games like Minecraft....

Fury X should be price at $300 and nothing more. No way I'm paying $650 for less VRAM, no HDMI 2.0, slower performance in most games including GTA V, use up more power and also has a thick water cooler with it and yet run hotter than a 980ti. Just no.

$300. That might be too much. Let's make it free with a purchase of the Witcher 3 since you missed out on the chance to grab your free copy with the purchase of an Nvidia card. Oh, do you want some fries with that, too?

 

[YBS1]

Oh come on, it doesn't blow. It's just not what you hoped for.

I promise you that anyone that buys a Fury X should be very happy with it. If they aren't going to be happy with a Fury X, they aren't going to be any happier with a 980ti.

This....the card itself would be a splash if the Ti didn't already exist. In truth we don't actually know how it's going to end up overclocking. It is priced a bit high in relation to the Ti, but you also have to account for the cooler, on the flip side you have to account for the Ti's additional ram. It's biggest flaw is it simply moved the price/performance bar absolutely zero.

 

[Headfoot]

Oh come on, it doesn't blow. It's just not what you hoped for.

I promise you that anyone that buys a Fury X should be very happy with it. If they aren't going to be happy with a Fury X, they aren't going to be any happier with a 980ti.

Exactly.

It's a tie at 4k and barely a little slower at 1440p. If the 980 Ti is good, then the Fury X is equally as good if it costs the same, performs the same. Better cooling on Fury X is traded off by more VRAM on 980 Ti.

It's a wash in terms of card vs card.

People just expect more of the second to market. If this had come out before the 980 Ti the whole story would be completely different.

 

[Headfoot]

.......

LOL what blatant hypocrisy. Good catch dude.

 

[LTC8K6]

LOL what blatant hypocrisy. Good catch dude.

Maybe not...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37506822&postcount=2

 

[ShintaiDK]

Hype and reality never mix well.

 

[Headfoot]

Maybe not...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37506822&postcount=2

That has nothing to do with the topic pointed out by Flapdrol....

"3 weeks is a long time wait for an inferior product."

"But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???"

 

[LTC8K6]

That has nothing to do with the topic pointed out by Flapdrol....

"3 weeks is a long time wait for an inferior product."

"But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???"

Good point, plus he clearly wants a 980ti, which has been available for a while now.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???

Yup graphics cards have been thoroughly unimpressive for years now.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Not only does it not come with HDMI 2.0, it doesn't even come with 6 GB or more of HBM.

Extra HBM might not have helped. If you pay close attention to the benches, you'll see FuryX doing worse vs. the 980Ti at 1440P than 4k in more than a few circumstances. The only plausible explanations I've see for FuryX's performance are:

a). Poor/unfinished drivers
b). Too few ROPs
c). Some of both

It should be interesting to see what happens with FuryX a few driver revisions down the road. AMD may not be able to "fix it in software", but hey, it's fun to wish for things like that.

 

[RussianSensation]

But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???

You can always sell the 5850 for $40-50 and get the XFX R9 290 for $240. That's a great stop-gap card for 16-20 months and then just dive deep into 14nm/16nm HBM2 cards. 290 is a massive upgrade over your card, close to 3-4.25X faster in modern DX11 games due to 1GB VRAM and tessellation bottlenecks of the 5850. Check this out:

If you waited this long on a 5850 that came out September 2009, it's probably better for someone like you to buy $250-300 cards every 3 years rather than buy a $650 flagship and hold on to it or 5-6 years. In short, your GPU upgrading strategy is all wrong.

Buy a 290/290X/970 and in 3 years another card. If you are going to pull off another 5850 situation with a 980Ti/Fury X by holding on to it for 5-6 years, you are just wasting $. Also, you need to list your PC specs in your signature or tell us or we don't even know of these cards are a viable upgrade path if you have some slow FX or Phenom or Core 2 Quad or a stock i5 760/860 CPU.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

$300. That might be too much. Let's make it free with a purchase of the Witcher 3 since you missed out on the chance to grab your free copy with the purchase of an Nvidia card. Oh, do you want some fries with that, too?

I already bought Witcher 3 and it not very fun in any resolution under 1080p. Could you perhaps turn those fries into hash brown instead?

 

[Eymar]

The numbers are close enough that most likely won't notice if running similarly spec'd systems side by side (without frame counters). The exceptions have a large enough difference in FPS that it probably be subjectively noticeable in a side by side test (COD AW, Project Cars, Wolfenstein, Watch Dogs) with no games showing a similar advantage for Fury so in most cases 980ti will be best choice for high end users. I'd say if user is in the market for VRR monitor then Fury X is better choice. Jury is still out for XF and multi monitor users.

 

[LTC8K6]

I already bought Witcher 3 and it not very fun in any resolution under 1080p. Could you perhaps turn those fries into hash brown instead?

Were you planning on putting Fury into your 7 year old computer, or were you going with a whole new system?

 

[iiiankiii]

I already bought Witcher 3 and it not very fun in any resolution under 1080p. Could you perhaps turn those fries into hash brown instead?

Sure, you can get hash brown, instead. But, you're going to have to wait 3 weeks, though.

On a serious note, a r9 290 is a great place holder. You can run most of your games at 1080 with ease. Highly recommended. This generation just isn't good enough for 4k gaming, yet. You're going to need 2 high end cards to do that.

 

[Jhatfie]

I am a little disappointed in the initial performance for the price point. The card itself is really solid, performing close to the 980ti with comparable power usage and including a sweet water cooling unit keeping temps and noise in line. If it is anything like the 290 and 290x it could very well get stronger as drivers mature. I think if it was $579 it would be a very solid value and I would absolutely buy it. At $650 though the decision is tougher and I'd tend to go Nvidia.

 

[Kenmitch]

Doesn't look good so far.

Holding pattern for me. Maybe driver issues as son results look strange currently. Not sure I'll even upgrade now. Might wait and see or just skip this round. 970 is so so but only doing 1080p currently anyways.

 

[badb0y]

Fury is a max $550 card. I don't know what they were thinking matching the GTX 980 Ti price and not matching the performance.

 

[voodoo7817]

If you waited this long on a 5850 that came out September 2009, it's probably better for someone like you to buy $250-300 cards every 3 years rather than buy a $650 flagship and hold on to it or 5-6 years.

I upgraded to the 290 in January (from a 560ti) and I'm very happy with my decision. Anyone 'scared' of spending $500+ on a graphics card (reasonably so!) just simply should not shop for those cards when they are released. After 1-2 years, that performance will be available at the $250-300 level, which is where I'm more comfortable. The 290 does very well at 1440p for everything but the newest releases and I think it should easily hold me over until a single card can actually handle 4K reasonably.

 

[Gunbuster]

What if Fury overclocks well when the tools are available?

Going to switch back?

That should be the new AMD corporate slogan! "What if? and Coming Soon™"

 

[SolMiester]

Nothing makes me happy now. Already miss out on a free game with the 980ti but it seem I can't do that either cause Nvidia Surround absolutely suck. I show no brand loyalty. All I want is competition and what is best for us consumer. I'm also not sold on VR because the games that are on VR now are games like Minecraft....

Fury X should be price at $300 and nothing more. No way I'm paying $650 for less VRAM, no HDMI 2.0, slower performance in most games including GTA V, use up more power and also has a thick water cooler with it and yet run hotter than a 980ti. Just no.

Pls tell us the problem with surround?

 

[ultimatebob]

I don't know... it seems like it would be a decent card for around $550. If I had $650 to blow on a video card, I'd go for the 980 Ti.

I never pay more than $250 for a video card, though, so neither of these products are for me.