Disappointed by AMD

[thehotsung8701A]

Don't you need to upgrade your 7 year old PC anyways? Wasn't that your plan. You wanted to upgrade. You were talking about spending a butt load of money on your PC upgrade. Now, you're not? Don't you need a more power CPU, anyways? Considering the CPU landscape moves at a snail's pace, your CPU purchased today will hold up for a long time.

Yes I do badly but I'm paying an arm and a leg and my PC won't meet my expectation. I could upgrade everything and get the 290 gpu but then I would not be gaming in Eyefinity so it would be rather pointless. I'm not just upgrading my computer, I'm building a whole new computer with new case, psu, etc... as I can't stand my old computer anymore.

Pascal GPU is so far away :\

 

[at80eighty]

I could upgrade everything and get the 290 gpu but then I would not be gaming in Eyefinity so it would be rather pointless

what resolution monitors are you aiming to play at?

 

[crisium]

But I'll be stuck with the HD 5850 for another 16 months ???

Props for rocking a second tier card from 2009 this far into the next decade. That'd be absolutely, utterly, impossible just a decade ago. I'm stilling playing on my laptop which is an underclocked 560Ti (~460 2GB performance). It's nice to max out settings, but it's awesome that ancient cards can still play games at Medium or so.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

what resolution monitors are you aiming to play at?

5760 X 1080p which is more intensive than 1440p. So 3 1080p monitor.

Props for rocking a second tier card from 2009 this far into the next decade. That'd be absolutely, utterly, impossible just a decade ago. I'm stilling playing on my laptop which is an underclocked 560Ti (~460 2GB performance). It's nice to max out settings, but it's awesome that ancient cards can still play games at Medium or so.

Thank you, I just didn't saw enough graphical improvement to warrant an upgrade and it wasn't until the Witcher 3 that I realize I can no longer run all games in 1080p. I don't remember which Nvidia GPU was in competition with the HD 5850 so where exactly does your 560Ti stand compare to my gpu?

Nonetheless I don't understand why Dirt 1 and Dirt 2 graphic are amazing and run well with my computer yet I'm not impress with the Witcher 3 graphic at all and I can't run it? It make no sense.

 

[krumme]

But its not even equal to a 980ti. All you have to do is OC the 980ti to match the power consumption of the Fury X and it is now ahead by 15%, with plenty more headroom to spare. Maxwell is still 25% more power efficient.

Wrong. And its damn sad its not known.
Look at tomshardware power consumption test.
Their methology and equipment is from another world vs the rest.

 

[Ancalagon44]

I think if AMD priced this card at $599, they'd have a winner on their hands.

It must be really expensive to manufacture, for them to have to sell it at this price.

What will probably happen is that the regular Fury will be the sweet spot in terms of price and performance.

Still, its a pity that Fury X is just overpriced for what it is.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

I think if AMD priced this card at $599, they'd have a winner on their hands.

It must be really expensive to manufacture, for them to have to sell it at this price.

What will probably happen is that the regular Fury will be the sweet spot in terms of price and performance.

Still, its a pity that Fury X is just overpriced for what it is.

They need to take the loss. It not the customer faults that they invest so much money in new technology that don't translate into performance. Doesn't the 290x have like 8 GB of VRAM, talk about a step backward.

 

[2is]

Fury X has been a disappointment at every step sadly.

First there was 4GB debacle
Then there was the lack of HDMI 2.0
Then came the pricing (a tentative disappointment pending reviews)
Then came the reviews. Compared to a 980Ti it uses more power, has less vram and more often than not, underperforms
Then came the overclocking, or complete lack of
Then the drivers, with very erratic performance characteristics. I mean, i'm assuming this is driver related and not an inherent issue with the card itself.

You know it's bad when even many AMD enthusiasts are unimpressed.

 

[Majcric]

Yes I do badly but I'm paying an arm and a leg and my PC won't meet my expectation. I could upgrade everything and get the 290 gpu but then I would not be gaming in Eyefinity so it would be rather pointless. I'm not just upgrading my computer, I'm building a whole new computer with new case, psu, etc... as I can't stand my old computer anymore.

Pascal GPU is so far away :\

You feel concerned that if you upgrade to a GTX 980ti it won't be handle your resolution with good playable settings? I mean of course it won't be able to max out ever game with ever bell and whistle on. But any single high-end GPU I've ever owned never could. A single Pascal won't either. The fact is you get real close and have a very enjoyable play experience.


If your PC is as old as you say it is I'd buy something now and be blown away by the difference.

 

[Ketchup]

Even though I haven't bought an AMD card in years, I can sympathize with the OP. Reminds me of my last AMD dedicated card, an ATI Radeon 9700. It was a great card at the time, but the card that replaced it was not much faster, and every time the need has arisen since, an Nvidia card was a better card for me.

 

[dark zero]

AMD screwed up hard and seems that they are killing the HBM hype, so Pascal will get heavily nerfed their hype they had. Artic Islands is the Last chance of AMD before they quits.

GDDR5 will live some time more. Even edRAM has their chance.

In resume... What a dissaster

 

[tential]

Fury X has been a disappointment at every step sadly.

First there was 4GB debacle
Then there was the lack of HDMI 2.0
Then came the pricing (a tentative disappointment pending reviews)
Then came the reviews. Compared to a 980Ti it uses more power, has less vram and more often than not, underperforms
Then came the overclocking, or complete lack of
Then the drivers, with very erratic performance characteristics. I mean, i'm assuming this is driver related and not an inherent issue with the card itself.

You know it's bad when even many AMD enthusiasts are unimpressed.

Yup this sums up my feels although I don't have a particular love of either company. I feel like I waited so freaking long for the fury x so I could compare the 2 lineups and now I just don't even care anymore. May just get nothing agree seeing those AK results.... Pc gaming just isn't a priority and we pay more and more for the same level of performance. We still aren't firmly ahead of crisis 3....

 

[thehotsung8701A]

Even though I haven't bought an AMD card in years, I can sympathize with the OP. Reminds me of my last AMD dedicated card, an ATI Radeon 9700. It was a great card at the time, but the card that replaced it was not much faster, and every time the need has arisen since, an Nvidia card was a better card for me.

Oh man, I forgot about the whole 9xxx series. I used to have a 9800 pro or XT I believe. I don't know it was so long ago. Then I move onto a 7600 GT and then back to HD 5850. That seem like millennium ago.

I'm starting to think maybe I should forgo my dream of doing Eyefinity and just buy a stop gap card from any brand.

 

[Headfoot]

Fury X has been a disappointment at every step sadly.

First there was 4GB debacle
Then there was the lack of HDMI 2.0
Then came the pricing (a tentative disappointment pending reviews)
Then came the reviews. Compared to a 980Ti it uses more power, has less vram and more often than not, underperforms
Then came the overclocking, or complete lack of
Then the drivers, with very erratic performance characteristics. I mean, i'm assuming this is driver related and not an inherent issue with the card itself.

You know it's bad when even many AMD enthusiasts are unimpressed.

Overclocking isn't resolved yet.... what is with everyone here jumping to conclusions immediately. It's not voltage locked like nvidia cards, there just is no utility yet.

Or do you all REALLY believe that it won't overclock one hair better with more voltage????

 

[CP5670]

Props for rocking a second tier card from 2009 this far into the next decade. That'd be absolutely, utterly, impossible just a decade ago. I'm stilling playing on my laptop which is an underclocked 560Ti (~460 2GB performance). It's nice to max out settings, but it's awesome that ancient cards can still play games at Medium or so.

I get less excited about new video card releases than I used to be for this reason. I used a GTX 280 from mid-2008 up until last October, and it was still running most of my games pretty well at the time. There is not much need to upgrade frequently these days at 1080p, especially since all the games are console ports and you can turn off the few token features added for the PC that hurt performance a lot but have little visual impact. The only real demand for higher performance is coming from 4K and maybe VR, not because game graphics are actually improving.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

Overclocking isn't resolved yet.... what is with everyone here jumping to conclusions immediately. It's not voltage locked like nvidia cards, there just is no utility yet.

Or do you all REALLY believe that it won't overclock one hair better with more voltage????

They said the Fury X max OC is only 10% headway or headroom. Only the Fury can be OC past 10% which is beyond disappointing.

 

[railven]

Overclocking isn't resolved yet.... what is with everyone here jumping to conclusions immediately. It's not voltage locked like nvidia cards, there just is no utility yet.

Or do you all REALLY believe that it won't overclock one hair better with more voltage????

Oh no, I think it will...but what is it going to do?

A 980 Ti G1 is 25% faster using similar power consumption. So now I got to juice the damn thing to most likely still end up behind a juiced 980 Ti?

In other threads now I'm seeing the "DX12 will deliver" nonsense. I guess I got to keep waiting for AMD to deliver?

 

[96Firebird]

It's always been... "Wait and see!"™

 

[thehotsung8701A]

Oh no, I think it will...but what is it going to do?

A 980 Ti G1 is 25% faster using similar power consumption. So now I got to juice the damn thing to most likely still end up behind a juiced 980 Ti?

In other threads now I'm seeing the "DX12 will deliver" nonsense. I guess I got to keep waiting for AMD to deliver?

PG&E is so high here cause my roommate doesn't know how to save money. I constantly have to check to see if unneeded lights are turn on when no one is even in the house.

I don't like that the GPU come with a cooler when it slower than a 980Ti. I like my GPU clean and simple. Not to mention I don't like the look of it but that a topic for another day.

 

[railven]

It's always been... "Wait and see!"™

Yeah, I think I'm done with the waiting. And before it's 2017 and someone starts saying "look how well it aged" that doesn't help me now. In 2017 when Fury X starts to beat 980 Ti, I think the buying consumer that matters would have already moved on to newer cards.

Time to hang up my Radeon Pon Pons.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

It's always been... "Wait and see!"™

That is so much worst than "The way it meant to be play".

 

[InfiniteLurker]

It's always been... "Wait and see!"™

Exactly. I waited, and waited. I did get caught up on the hype train a bit for the Fury X, and was disappointed when the NDA lifted and reviews were out, but that's on me for getting aboard the train.

Yesterday I put my order in for the EVGA 980 Ti SC, because now is my time to upgrade. Either card, the Fury X or the 980 Ti, would be a good upgrade for my 7970. When it is the right time for *you* you need to jump in, otherwise you never will as there is always something better around the bend.

 

[railven]

That is so much worst than "The way it meant to be play".

I dunno, at least with TWIMTBP I got something to play with.

"Wait and See" it's 4 months after my upgrade window opened up, I could have had a 980 Ti sitting in my rig all happily, but I gave AMD the benefit of the doubt because "Radeon! YEAH!!!!"

Welps, now I got to wait for DX12...

Then for DX12 games...

By then GTX 1080 Ti "u wot m8" Edition is wrecking things and Fury XXX is probably going to use more power, be slower, and run hotter.

And if you sense any bitterness in my post, it's because I did get hyped and I did want Fury X to be awesome. So good I'd have zero regrets buying it. But I can't buy it, not knowing for $30 more I can get a card that is faster with more vram AND uses less power.

 

[sm625]

Wrong. And its damn sad its not known.
Look at tomshardware power consumption test.
Their methology and equipment is from another world vs the rest.

It's also an outlier vs the rest. Perhaps they are not including the pump and radiator fan power usage?

 

[ZipSpeed]

Exactly. I waited, and waited. I did get caught up on the hype train a bit for the Fury X, and was disappointed when the NDA lifted and reviews were out, but that's on me for getting aboard the train.

Yesterday I put my order in for the EVGA 980 Ti SC, because now is my time to upgrade. Either card, the Fury X or the 980 Ti, would be a good upgrade for my 7970. When it is the right time for *you* you need to jump in, otherwise you never will as there is always something better around the bend.

Yup, I was hoping the train would end in a good place as well. My 7950 has served me well but with the move to 1440p, I need something with more grunt. As soon as more custom 980 Ti cards are more plentiful, I'll be picking one up.