- Feb 27, 2011
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Obviously there's been a lot of discussion of bump fire stocks since the Vegas shooting, I've also read erroneous facts regarding suppressors aka silencers. Hillary stated how much worse Vegas would have been if he had silencers on the rifles, she waited a whole 2 hours into Monday morning to unleash this, ultra classy. I'm a firearms enthusiast and shoot a lot of sanctioned bullseye pistol matches, I'm not an expert on all things firearms but it drives me nuts to see false statements from people that have the supposed IQ to know better.
First off the average 5.56/.223rem shot from an AR15 is roughly 165db,,, VERY loud and painful if shot with no ear protection. WITH a suppressor the db level drops to a balmy 135db which is still still uncomfortable and damaging just not as bad as unsuppressed.
I've target shot long range several time with guys owning suppressed rifles, 243AI and 260 Remington to be exact, sitting next to them I still wore ear protection as it is still uncomfortable just not deafening as unsuppressed. This is why you hear about silencers being promoted for hunters. Hunters want their senses sharp to hear animals walking ect. but are then subjected to possibly damaging db levels from often large bore rifles.
Hollywood has done a lot to vilify the silencer often making the noise all but disappear in action scenes. In the case of 3000+ fps rifle cartridges this is false as I explained above, the noise is still loud to the point of being damaging. Fact is most high power rifles are mach 2-3, a large percentage of the report of a firearm comes from the miniature sonic boom of the projectile, the silencer only reduces the noise from gasses escaping the muzzle rapidly. The exception to this comes from subsonic ammunition such as 22lr. There are also some calibers such as 300blk which is a "wildcat" version of the 5.56/
223 that allows a 30 caliber bullet to be shot from a trimmed 5.56/.223 cartridge, there are special loadings (often hand loaded by enthusiasts) of 300blk with slow heavy bullets that remain subsonic, these get to Hollywood noise levels and are still quite deadly, YouTube should give you plenty of examples.
So there are the basic facts, yes a pistol or rifle with silencer can achieve Hollywood quite levels but the majority aren't. People buy them for novelty, hearing protection and in long range shooting there is evidence that they increase accuracy due to less turbulence while the bullet exits the barrel. As with anything they can be used by criminals to pull off mafia style hits, fact is they aren't 99.9999% of the time hence the push by some to lift the NFA regulations on them.
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First off the average 5.56/.223rem shot from an AR15 is roughly 165db,,, VERY loud and painful if shot with no ear protection. WITH a suppressor the db level drops to a balmy 135db which is still still uncomfortable and damaging just not as bad as unsuppressed.
I've target shot long range several time with guys owning suppressed rifles, 243AI and 260 Remington to be exact, sitting next to them I still wore ear protection as it is still uncomfortable just not deafening as unsuppressed. This is why you hear about silencers being promoted for hunters. Hunters want their senses sharp to hear animals walking ect. but are then subjected to possibly damaging db levels from often large bore rifles.
Hollywood has done a lot to vilify the silencer often making the noise all but disappear in action scenes. In the case of 3000+ fps rifle cartridges this is false as I explained above, the noise is still loud to the point of being damaging. Fact is most high power rifles are mach 2-3, a large percentage of the report of a firearm comes from the miniature sonic boom of the projectile, the silencer only reduces the noise from gasses escaping the muzzle rapidly. The exception to this comes from subsonic ammunition such as 22lr. There are also some calibers such as 300blk which is a "wildcat" version of the 5.56/
223 that allows a 30 caliber bullet to be shot from a trimmed 5.56/.223 cartridge, there are special loadings (often hand loaded by enthusiasts) of 300blk with slow heavy bullets that remain subsonic, these get to Hollywood noise levels and are still quite deadly, YouTube should give you plenty of examples.
So there are the basic facts, yes a pistol or rifle with silencer can achieve Hollywood quite levels but the majority aren't. People buy them for novelty, hearing protection and in long range shooting there is evidence that they increase accuracy due to less turbulence while the bullet exits the barrel. As with anything they can be used by criminals to pull off mafia style hits, fact is they aren't 99.9999% of the time hence the push by some to lift the NFA regulations on them.
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