Distributing SETI across a network?

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Robor

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IndyJaws: Okay, it's not getting the WU so it's not an issue of the user.sah file (yet anyway). What is the IP of the machine you're running SetiQ on? What does the SetiQ log say? I know SetiQ does not download any WU's until it gets a request from a client. If your SetiQ machine can't connect to Berkeley (or Orange Kid's or some other proxy) then your clients aren't going to be able to download the WU's. Can you look on your local SetiQ server and check the log? That may be the problem.
 

IndyJaws

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Interesting...this is the print of the log file:
12:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
12:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
1:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
1:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
2:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
2:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
3:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
3:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
4:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
4:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
5:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
5:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
6:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
6:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
7:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
7:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
8:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
8:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
9:03am: s@h_wrk Empty queue override
9:03am: s@h_wrk Waiting 9m05s before trying again
9:12am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
9:12am: s@h_wrk Waiting 1h00m before trying again
9:21am: Http: 127.0.0.1 queues.htm
9:21am: Http: 127.0.0.1 queueinfo.htm
9:21am: Http: 127.0.0.1 clients.htm
9:22am: Application closed
9:22am: Revision 3.03.1.7 started
9:22am: s@h_wrk Empty queue override
9:22am: s@h_wrk SetiQ settings reset
9:22am: Q0003 Remove obsolete client xxxx.xxxx
9:22am: Failed to send notification email (xxx@xxx)
9:22am: Q0003 Deleting obsolete client: 10.0.1.37 xxx.xxx
9:22am: s@h_wrk Download WU: SendRequest to shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu failed: Invalid server response
9:22am: Deleting obsolete queue: C:\Program Files\SetiQueue\User.3449876\q0003
9:22am: Deleting obsolete user: C:\Program Files\SetiQueue\User.3449876

As you can see, I stopped and restarted SetiQueue. Now, it lists no clients (apparently, they have been deleted as obsolete?). Hmmmmm.....
 

Robor

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It looks like your SetiQ isn't able to reach Berkeley. Can you ping shserver2.ssl.berkeley.edu from the PC running SetiQ? If so, you should get a response from the IP 128.32.18.66. If you can't ping Berkeley from the SetiQ server you're not going to be able to download any WU's from it. Is DNS working properly on this system? Can you ping other sites? Try pinging www.google.com or www.yahoo.com and see if you get a response from them.

As far as deleting clients - I know there's a setting in there to delete obsolete clients after "x" number of days. I think I set mine to 99 days or something. I don't know the default but maybe one of your clients went past the deadline?

 

IndyJaws

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I'm able to ping the server with no problems, averages about 135 ms. I'm wondering if the firewall is preventing it? What's wierd, however, is that the Seti driver has no problems connecting to Berkeley.
 

Robor

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What port is SetiDriver using to connect to Berkeley? Maybe use the same port in SetiQ as SetiDriver is using? Have you tried the different proxy options available in SetiQ? Mine's going through a firewall as well but I don't even have a monitor, KB, or mouse hooked to it right now. In fact, I'm in the process of setting up a Belkin OmniView KVM for my server room where my SetiQ boxed is sitting in a corner.
 

Smoke

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Connect Type: WinINetDefault

Have you tried the above setting in your SetiQueue or any of the other settings?
 

IndyJaws

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Seti Driver is using OrangeKid's proxy to connect.

SetiQueue has my machine's IP for the IP address, 0.0.0.0 for subnet, port 5517.
Connection type is WinINet Proxy to OrangeKid

Could this be the cause of my problems?
 

IsOs

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IndyJaws, if you're using OK's proxy, your SETI Q settings should be WinNetProxy, orangekid.teamanandtech.com, port 5001.

Is that what you have in your settings?
 

Smoke

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I agree with Is0s. If your SetiQueue was going straight to Berkeley, the port would be the default 5517 but to get to OrangeKid you have to use 5001.

That's why I mentioned KISS earlier. Go to Berkeley first and get it running. You can always go to OrangeKid's Proxy later.

Wait a minute. You said SetiDriver was going to OrangeKids and your SetiQueue was set to port 5517. The SetiDriver should go to your SetiQueue for its flushes and your SetiQueue should go to Berkeley (OrangeKid later if you want). Am I understanding this correctly?
 

Robor

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Just got back from lunch... Great to see so many members jumping in to help IJ. Sorry I wasn't in earlier in the thread...

I'd do what Smokeball said. Start simple (default) and tweak it after it's working. I was using Orange Kid's proxy before but can't anymore because my SetiQ machine is behind a firewall and it can't get there. Why I can see Berkeley and not Orange Kid I dunno (maybe the port?) but I know my SetiQ works when going directly to Berkeley.
 

aiex

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IndyJaws, if you're using OK's proxy, your SETI Q settings should be WinNetProxy, orangekid.teamanandtech.com, port 5001.

Hmm you guyes use WinNetProxy? I use the WinSock proxy on mine and thats the only way it will work

Alex
 

IndyJaws

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Ok, I'll change my SetiQueue proxy to Berkeley and see what happens. What IP (or name server) and port should I be using then? Also, should I then change it to Default INet or leave it at the current setting (or maybe try Winsock?)
 

IndyJaws

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<< Wait a minute. You said SetiDriver was going to OrangeKids and your SetiQueue was set to port 5517. The SetiDriver should go to your SetiQueue for its flushes and your SetiQueue should go to Berkeley (OrangeKid later if you want). Am I understanding this correctly? >>



My SetiDriver is going to orangekid.teamanandtech, port 5001. My SetiQueue has my machine's IP and port 5517 for the Seti@Home server portion, then WinINet Proxy to orangekid.teamanandtech.com port 5001 for the proxy.
 

RaySun2Be

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Aha!

The SETIDRIVER proxy should be pointing to your SETIQ ip & port #. Then your SETIQ should be set to Winproxy & Orangekid's SETIQ dns name and port #

I had a terrible time with this at first and finally got it straightened out. At first I couldn't get anything to connect to anything else except Berkeley.

If you have SETIDRIVER pointing to OK's SETIQ, have you looked to see if the clients have shown up there? Look at the users stats, and check for your SETI ID # or name.
 

IndyJaws

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<< Aha! The SETIDRIVER proxy should be pointing to your SETIQ ip & port #. Then your SETIQ should be set to Winproxy & Orangekid's SETIQ dns name and port # I had a terrible time with this at first and finally got it straightened out. At first I couldn't get anything to connect to anything else except Berkeley. If you have SETIDRIVER pointing to OK's SETIQ, have you looked to see if the clients have shown up there? Look at the users stats, and check for your SETI ID # or name. >>



So I need to change my proxy info in SetiDriver to my SetiQueue IP & port #, eh?

Yes, I do have results at OK's page, but I don't think any of the numbers are from clients. In fact, I'm pretty positive they've never even received a WU to process, since there is no state.sah. Plus, my totals should be higher than what I've sent out if 4 other machines were crunching for me.

I'll change my proxy info in SetiDriver. I've got a WU about 73% done. I'll crank up the processing level to normal and see what happens when it transmits. I just want to make sure that my SetiQueue settings are correct.

Edit: Can I leave the proxy settings pointing to OK's proxy in SetiQueue or does it specifically need to be Berkeley? If so, what are the numbers to plug in?
 

aiex

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The proxy in setiQ can point to orangekid, we were just working on the principle of KISS for the time being thats all, but by all means experiment till your hearts content, it's the tinkering that makes it fun!


Alex
 

OhioDude

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If you're listed on OK's site then your SetiQ is communicating fine with OK's proxy. I'd just leave it that way for now and just change the SETI Driver proxies to point to your SetiQ.

 

Smoke

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OhioDude, I'm not sure what is connected to OrangeKids Proxy but doesn't it sound like it has been his SetiDriver that is showing up at OKs (it was set to OKs).
 

OhioDude

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You're right, Smoke. It probably was SETI Driver that is communicating with OK because I remember IJ saying that all PC's had internet connectivity. If nothing was connecting to IJ's SetiQ, then his SetiQ had no reason to talk to OK's proxy... Duh...

If you want to go straight to Berkeley from SetiQ, I think you can just leave proxy server and port # blank in SetiQ server settings and it will default to Berkeley.
 

IndyJaws

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I don't think it's my SetiQueue that's been connecting to OK's proxy, it's my SetiDriver.

Edit: Oops, you beat me to it, OD

I just changed SetiQueue's connection to Default WinINet, greying out OK's proxy.
 

Smoke

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These are the settings of my SetiQueue which go directly to Berkeley....and they work.

IP & Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0, 0.0.0.0
Port Number 5517
Connect Type WinINetDefault
 

IndyJaws

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<< These are the settings of my SetiQueue which go directly to Berkeley....and they work. IP & Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0, 0.0.0.0 Port Number 5517 Connect Type WinINetDefault >>



Wait...don't I have to have the IP address of my machine in the IP section?
 

OhioDude

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In my setup, I have my SetiQ's IP and Subnet Mask entered in IP Address and Subnet Mask and 5517 for Port number. Just leave the Proxy server and Port# blank.

I also use Winsock Proxy for connection type. I had to to get it to work through MSProxy 2.0. WinINetDefault may work for you.
 
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